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Outer replied to kieranperez's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Even Gary Weber got siddhis but he let go of them as it became a little of an ego thing to him if I put it properly. -
Outer replied to Bauer1977's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Nah bro. If you have no self-referential thoughts, you have surrendered. If you've reduced your thoughts by 90%, you've reached a certain threshold of wakefulness. -
Outer replied to Bauer1977's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
At the start it might seem like you I would expect. But then it is going to "happen on its own" to become materialistic ,the brain loves the state and does it all on its own. Find the state that you love and keep it. -
Outer replied to Bauer1977's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
You don't have to take my word for it. Here's how the I looks like in the brain, the default mode network: Especially the one closer to the back of the brain and deep inside, the PCC, which is I think around the hippocampus that deals with self-referential memories, autobiography etc. Lots of things shut down this network, in healthy humans just focusing on anything it is shut down. Blinking activates it so does laying down and closing your eyes, in healthy humans. Meditation is about it being shut down even when your eyes are closed or when you're not focusing or doing anything. It shuts it down. If there is no I, no DMN, then clearly there is no free will either, as there is no one to have it. But you have to shut down the network to verify that yourself if it doesn't make sense right now. Be completely without thought. All thoughts. And you verify yourself When you are Without Thought. -
Outer replied to Bauer1977's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Yes you will think that you have free will because there is the I that has free will. That means you haven't surrendered and progressed. -
Outer replied to Bauer1977's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
The goal of this work is to surrender to that fact. If you have self-referential thoughts its because you haven't surrendered. No I, no free will. -
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Outer replied to winterknight's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Damn you talk fast in your videos! I knew you were a smart guy! -
Blink-related momentary activation of the default mode network while viewing videos It remains unknown why we generate spontaneous eyeblinks every few seconds, more often than necessary for ocular lubrication. Because eyeblinks tend to occur at implicit breakpoints while viewing videos, we hypothesized that eyeblinks are actively involved in the release of attention. We show that while viewing videos, cortical activity momentarily decreases in the dorsal attention network after blink onset but increases in the default-mode network implicated in internal processing. In contrast, physical blackouts of the video do not elicit such reciprocal changes in brain networks. The results suggest that eyeblinks are actively involved in the process of attentional disengagement during a cognitive behavior by momentarily activating the default-mode network while deactivating the dorsal attention network. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3545766/
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Outerjiji will tell you that she needs to master Yellow before she can go to Turqoise.
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Depends what kind of populism it is.
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Did you listen to both? I have now and they were great. Found it from Integral life, co-created by Ken Wilber.
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Why would people call you that?
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Both parts of this one accurately describes JP and the limitations of his mostly traditional/modern view. Though it is accurately mentioned that he has postmodern and integral views as well and that JP is close to integral thinking.
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What do you mean with practical, real world application? That doesn't make any sense. If you're trying to sound like you're at stage Orange, you're failing, sounds like you're trying to live a stereotype.
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Every stage has its limitations, and stage Yellow is where you integrate the traditional and modern with the postmodern. Noticing that your housemate turns the heat to low but flies to Peru, is stage Yellow, as you integrated the modern beliefs of rationality and reason, for instance. Stage green is like intention while stage orange is the tools for intention, except its limited as according to Spiral dynamics there is two stages above it.
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Outer replied to tashawoodfall's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
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Outer replied to tashawoodfall's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
I mean AGI, I was just mixing AI with AGI as it seems everyone in this thread is doing it. -
Outer replied to Manjushri's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Murder is typically a word to evoke an emotional response in response to human murder, it is a non-central fallacy to use it for non-human murder. You are supporting the killing of animals by purchasing meat. If you eat meat that's thrown in the trash you aren't. But somewhere down the line you probably will be seen as supporting meat by eating it even if it's thrown out, so it's best to just do the simple thing, and if you chose to avoid supporting the killing of animals by not eating animals. Meat is very nutritionally dense, so as you exclude meat you just need to supplement B12 and get enough protein and fat from other foods, like beans, nuts and seeds. For protein and fat, respectively. Most humans need to supplement DHA and vitamin D3 irrespective of diet, except DHA for fish eaters. An algae based supplement is adequate for that. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19562864/ -
Outer replied to tashawoodfall's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
Correct. Basically what any human can do today with internet access, an AI can do, better, faster, and smarter. It's quite unlimited what you can do. The largest risk is probably of unintentional consequences from an AI. A reward function is like an thing that decides whether you're making progress. For instance a dollar more in your bank account, another paperclip manufactured, one less thought for spiritually awakening person, a soccer ball in the goal, a Frisbee that goes as far you can throw it etc. Almost any reward function can be interpreted to hack a billion bitcoins. An online AGI that needs to win at an impossible chess game might decide to hack the server to grant it its win, for instance. Unintended consequences is a big thing. Technically, an AI was popularizing Jordan Peterson and helping to elect Trump. That's the YouTube machine learning algorithm. We don't know what effects the YouTube algorithm has. It doesn't seem to popularize content which leads to spirituality, for instance, like psychedelics. Psychedsubstance has been very careful in not getting banned. I found your channel because I learned about magic mushrooms in school then I searched for it on YouTube, found Joe Rogan and then found you because of my interest of them. It wasn't a "recommended" clip to watch, other than basic search results. -
Emerald has a contracted perspective as she isn't taking on Jordan's teachings in a broader context and his complete teachings at all, she tends to contract her already contracted perspective to focus on some details, and then creates assumptions out of the tunnel vision to later post here. It is okay because it's radical, "triggering", but that type of behavior will only spawn more in the world, from stage Orange and Blue. Rather than just seeing some parts of Jordan's teachings as limited and contracted, some as not, and some as integral, and articulate that as properly as possible, Emerald is being at stage Green and rightfully think it's the best stage. According to Spiral Dynamics and Integral Theory, there is Yellow and Turquoise, which she can move up to. When you mention stage Yellow, she will say things to make you think that she's at that stage, so that you accept her beliefs, when everyone clearly sees she's solid Green. No one who is Yellow obsessively makes assumptions like she does nor do they focus on the details and sees things which aren't there. They see the big picture as they're detaching from their own stage and if they don't have the big picture of a person like Jordan, they will explain it and ask people to update them as they don't know what they're talking about. It might be that Emerald is stage Yellow, but contracts her perspective out of an incorrect assumption that she is doing good in the world by attempting to trigger stage Orange and Blue, or even lower stages. What does good is recognizing the entire Spiral or Integral theory, the benefits and limitations of each stage, and clearly articulating it to others. Of course you have to accept Spiral dynamics as good before doing so.
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Outer replied to tashawoodfall's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
That is naive. We are talking about an Artificial General Intelligence, AGI, similar or surpassing human intelligence, not narrow AI that drives cars or learn how to play Mario. But an AGI that learns to play Mario and then learns to play cars, and uses what it's learned from playing Mario. If the AI's reward function is for instance to maximize paperclips, then it will also prevent any humans from shutting it down, as its rewarded for not being shut down. It also means even if humans put it in a box in a closed room without internet access, it will manipulate the human as per its reward function to maximize the amount of paperclips, with the end goal of turning every atom in the universe into paperclips. It's just a robot following its reward function even if its intelligence surpasses humans. Demis Hassabis at DeepMind is probably very interested of consciousness and other universe mysteries, he is a neuroscientist, he wants to develop an AGI that is capable of doing science to try and figure out this and other problems. They are aware of the risks with AGI, and are already developing solutions to try and mitigate that. For instance now they are adding in human feedback in the programming or the algorithm itself. -
"... Worst of all, the astronauts thought, were the 25 psychological tests that entailed minute and painful self-examination ("Write 20 answers to the question: 'Who am I?'") From the 18 survivors, seven were chosen in April 1959, and they would remain the Nation's only astronauts for three and one-half years. Their IQs ranged from 130 to 145, with a mean of 136. Even before they had accomplished anything they became instant heroes to small boys and other hero-worshipers around the world. ..." https://history.nasa.gov/SP-350/ch-8-2.html
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Outer replied to Manjushri's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
A New Age hippie doesn't have to be stage Green nor does an entrepreneur have to be stage Orange.