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There aren't any. I'd rather recommend listening to video products/youtube video's such as Julien's PIMP
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@Baz You can pretty much ignore all that has been said before. If you wanna trascend your fear by cleansing all the crap in your mind (conditionning, etc. the list is very long) it's gonna take you several years of intense work and therapy. Honestly I'm not even sure it's possible. Either way, the only you have to do to handle it is just doing it. That's it. Just go and open. You don't need a sophisticated approach to run away into. Don't be like the guy on the other topic who needed very sophisticated advice, and after 3-4 month hasn't done shit
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Honestly, I've seen a lot of products in my life and I never expected the life purpose course to be actually THIS GOOD. It's worth every dollar/euro. It's packed with high quality material and is really life changing. Like honestly : it's way better than any of his youtube's video while those are already a cut above.
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it's not about the specific number of points. It's the attitude. Let's get something straight first : you can empower someone only if he wants to. You can only share with someone if he is open to it. One of the easiest way's to know that is whether the person is asking for it or not. Has the person asked for your perspective, advice, thoughts, ideas, etc ? I wasn't able to find at least one person in the whole world who like or would listen to advice if he doesn't want to or need it. Then, it has to be "selfless" to some extent : if the person wants a perspective - for instance you who made this thread clearly asking for opinions/solutions about a given topic - those who answer have to "gift" their perspective /contribute without expecting anything in return (e.g. the person to change/change their opinion/evolve/etc.) in a sort of take it or leave it attitude. The goal is not to shove the help down someone's throat I'd say if emotions are involved you are already in a debate - so the best way is to simply stop. The core "problem" is that from one's perspective his view of the world/x/y/girls/man/random stuff is totaly valid, reasonable and true. If you forget entirly your own experience and view it from his life, aka imagine you lived from birth up to this point as HIM/HER without YOU ever existing, you would think exactly in the same way. Naturally, people are uncomfortable with something that fucks up their worldview and have a personnal investement in certain opinions. That's when I believe emotions come up. E.g. I see a women feeding her cat with vegan food torturing the poor thing. She's not gonna change unless she wants to, she doesn't know anything better, and debating with her is only gonna make you immensely angry. You can have a constructive information exchange only if both parties are open and willing to do so. You are preaching from their point of view when you don't want to hear those cool perspectives. Even when from your point of view their development is primitive and you have no idea how they're even still alive and they should totaly meditate daily or they're gonna waste their life You have to set a treshold of what you're wiling to tolerate, and simply KICK PEOPLE OUT OF YOUR LIFE. As with low consciousness, negative friends. Or if you wanna take it easier : For instance, my parents are very scientific orange PHD people, and so I simply do not talk about spiritual stuff with them. Aaaan that's it. As easy as that. And I don't have to/want to kick them out of my life.
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I believe talent needs more nuance : I don't feel like it's the addition distance you have over the competition in the long run but your baseline acceleration. What adds up to your speed if you work on it for instance. Some people are more clever and learn faster than others. They're also able to practice more efficiently etc. I've always seen talent like : talent x work = results. Talent could range from one to three for instance and work would be hours. Some people only need 5k hours to achieve mastery/ be world class. Or are those just rationalizations of my fixed mindset ? (That doesn't solve the people are different - more/less clever, sharp, have more energy/processing power/ etc).
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@Epiphany_Inspired Why would you offer your perspective ? The way I see it the deal of aksing for someone's perspective is trying to extract crucial insights from it - why is this person thinking like that, what's her/his experience, etc and then matching it with yours so you can upgrade it. I don't see a point in the debate frame - it's a pure information exchange. E.g. You are currently asking a question - I am providing you a perspective which works for me and then you're free to use the information provided in it to fit your worldview etc. and once you answer and ask for instance but what would happen if x,y,z or x seems slightly off - I can understand you better and while going back and forth this way we can both maybe learn something to correct/upgrade your perspective without there even being a debate/winnner/etc.
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@ElenaO No. Don't do it. It's one of the first reasons women cheat - they settle for less than they think they deserve and carry resentment because of that. Then those women will hurt as you said a very nice guy.
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Hey Leo, I've always wondered : have you ever studied the theosophical society ? More in particular Helena Blavatsky ? I find her book could be very interesting but it's extremely hard to read. Do you believe there is something to learn there ? Would you eventually help us explore more Occult traditions ? Thank you very much.
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Lynnel replied to Esoteric's topic in Spirituality, Consciousness, Awakening, Mysticism, Meditation, God
@Esoteric Following more serious spiritual traditions osho is seen as a fake anyway - for instance he had 91 rolls royces - I can't even fanthom how egoic you need to get to want/keep so much cars -
You seem not to understand what pick - up is. Please tell me how " making yourself more attractive by bettering yourself " a disingenuous and predatory to do ? No they are not : if you engage in predatory behaviour you are heavily fucked up. That's it. But no one is briging up this whole preying and predatory thing into the mix. It has nothing to do with the subject at hand. I advise you to review your perspective of men because by the way you speak they are seen with a LOT of aggression and hatred. And like manipulating with psychological abuse lol...I can't even imagine how bad you believe the world is. Pickup looks most like people who are totaly lost and feel sad,alone and rejected and try to learn decent social skills to find a nice girl. Those are generaly sweet and broken people. But sometimes some people introduced to pick-up go crazy and are neurotic and behave in ways that are not acceptable that can be indeed called manipulative or be dangerous for the women involved but that's because of them and not of the pick-up stuff.
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It seems predatory to you simply because the people who ask this question are heavily neurotic. I don't know what you all mean by pickup but it comes down to " learning how to become be attractive by bettering yourself" . It actually does really help a lot in your growth if you do it correctly. And not only for condifence but for you whole life overall. Thinking about how high or low on the level of consciousness something is, is very judgmental and ineffective : is eating my oatmeal in the morning low or high ? Interacting with other human beings can be a low/high consciousness activity on a case per case basis. Loving yourself doesn't work like that. And no matter how much you love yourself that's not gonna make you attractive.
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It's 100 % usefull. If it doesn't make sense for you - and as we can see it doesn't - don't read it. Forget about it. If you're angry after 20 pages just don't read it and that's it. Complaining it's not cheap is totaly pointless.
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Insist on taking money from you ? What the fuck ? The enlightened "part" of him doesn't do anything. The person/ego needs to live on and hence has the right to enjoy the fruit of his work because that's how the ego's operate down here. Seriously it's gift and we all should be grateful he even wrote it.
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In all honesty, I don't know. I've been working on my belief system lately and...well... 1) Humans are a gregarious species. 2) We need other people, etc. Are beliefs. It's not true in my experience. I believe that they are really great beliefs to hold society together though. Unless you've been totaly alone for let's say one month, you can't really know. If after being totaly alone for a month, not seen another human, not talking to one, you start to become mad, well maybe that means that's true for you. (And even then it could be the belief creating a placebo effect). If we take this to a very radical level, you actually never interact with human beings. You interact with your perception of the other person: what you percieve he thinks, says, looks like, smells like, all of those are perceptions you are witnessing. Eckhart Tolle has a great joke about that ; " When two people talk on facebook/internet they believe they talk to each other while they only interact with a screen". So, when next time you think about someone, is there even someone or is it just a bulk of perceptions made into a person ? It's not up to you anyway I mean usually such strong reactions indicate a deeper problem. That's it. My bad, I haven't dealt with all my assumptions yet
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@ajs Family is not a value , it's something you value. It's not the same as justice or beauty. Women are often conditionned to take care of the family and sometimes too easily tend to find their purpose there. The problem is that anything that includes other individuals cannot make you happy or fulfilled in itself. Concerning life purpose although you can never not include other people simply because you are in a society, it would seem clever to me not to build the whole thing based on 3 people who could die any day. Either way I'm off topic. Family is not a value
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I'm quite addicted to suggar, and constantly eating in general. It has never caused any trouble short term because my metabolism is pretty insane, but I feel like it's seriously negative for my health overall and since any addiction is bad for your happiness, I wondered if anyone solved the problem here. Being in meditation for a long period of time helps because you're not as stimulated anymore, but otherwise, I couldn't find a short term solution.
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Hope this helps
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@Shane Roberts Yeah honestly if you wanna become a therapist, simply enjoy the college ride. Learn what you can at college and enjoy learning on the side to become a great therapist - reading the likes of Miller, Winnicot, etc. It's pretty fun
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@Kevin Dunlop You're totaly right actually, I kinda over-reacted from this point of view. Thank you
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For fucking fuck's sake. @Kevin Dunlop @Phil Guys please before giving advice read the topic updates. It's been 5 months that I've totaly solved this problem. Thank you very much
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@Firebirdz I knew a day would come and someone from the Inner Circle would start to take his self-development seriously. As for Leo, he got a extremely strict schedule and lifestyle ( so no chocolate) so you're gonna need something else to offer
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But still ? That means you don't really get it. You know it, but it's not true in your experience. Ask yourself why you feel the need to be understood and need someone to be able to understand you. Why it feels so nice. If everything is flat and then suddently intense you've been carrying the problem arround and forgetting about it unless there is a trigger, and then the problem comes in full sight with huge proportions, thoughts, and you're a whole mess. Go deeper ! PS : going on dates with guys just to forget someone is a very... low vibration ? Manipulative (because you don't care about the person in itself and there isn't a genuine desire to know him and use him to fill a object etc. ) thing to do.
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@clytaemnestra Nothing happened between you two. Life is not a romantic movie where by flying 12000 km or doing anything proposterous you will be madly in love, happy and suddently everything is gonna be great. Either way you have already chosen : you have written this post so you can rationalize your action which is just fueled by different emotions, such as loneliness, neediness, void, emptiness, lack of excitement and so on and so forth, based on what we say, and really finding sound ways for your decision to be rational : the world is without borders, I fear this or that but otherwise it's a good decision, it's part of the self-actualization journey, so on and so forth. I'm probably someday gonna write a full article on neurotic love but meanwhile consider love and attraction as inherently neurotic unless you are very on point on your personnal journey.
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After watching Leo's video about confusion I've started reading peter Ralston's book about not-knowing, but currently I'm struggling with creating a new perspective and a space of not-knowing. This first exercise (for those who haven't read the book : imagine you don't know what shape earth really is ) supposed to create a shift in awareness which is not happening...am I expecting something big from the world shift ? Or is it so obvious that I've already achieved it without realizing it ? Does anyone have any guidelines or tips aside from the "I allow myself to not know" ?
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@Callum Milner I don't remember if it was this book or not, but I believe he talked about how when getting ready for a date you must have clean house :throw away the beer cans, etc, and get rid of the random dead animals in the garden. I found that hilarious. I don't remember anything else about the book - pretty standard guidelines. Aside from the FANCY date part. Have a coffee or a drink, no need to go skydiving and random stuff like that.