UnbornTao

No. Get your nature.

Do you care about others’ self-survival as much as your own?

Not sure about that. But point taken.

@Sugarcoat Why did you start this thread? Pain and suffering are not the same thing. Can suffering actually be found in the body? That’s something for you to explore on your own. It seems to me that suffering contains pain, but not the other way around. Consider that, although there are no pain receptors in your smartphone, if it gets broken or stolen, you will likely go through a painful event, and suffer, even if it is a minor annoyance. This suffering is of your own making, based on what you identify yourself with. And this is just a specific, superficial example. Pay attention to the activity of interpretation itself, and how the way you interpret events generates so much inner turmoil. This is just one domain to look into. You'd be considered stubborn, not insane, for resisting any change that you presumably want to go through, unless you're lying to yourself about wanting to transcend your condition. You could wonder: What purpose is this serving for me? What do I get out of it? Am I actually willing to drop it? Regarding thinking, a much deeper activity is occurring beneath the surface of your experience. Look at any small object in front of you and notice how the mind immediately brings up associations, meaning, stories, and use relative to the perception of the object. This isn't usually recognized as such, but is nonetheless occurring. This could be called part of the activity of thinking. So, you can see it isn't just a superficial thing that happens independent of your conception (see, another activity) of an objective, external reality. If you happened to create your self, couldn't your state also be created by you? Work on building a different state. Just for fun, consider yourself an actor and actually become: angry jealous depressed joyful curious vulnerable loving apathetic hopeful relaxed Make it real in your experience. Anyway, that was too much. In a nutshell: Just become responsible for your experience, and free yourself from what's dysfunctional and ineffective -- if that's what you want.

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The Ultimate Guide to Reframing

Start with what it is. Otherwise, our questioning is based on second-hand "knowledge". Notice how prematurely asking why presupposes that the what is already known (assumed). It is putting the cart before the horse.

"When you meet Jesus on the road, kill him."

You're still stuck within the assumption that circumstances cause your state. By "thinking", it is not meant mere internal dialogue or passing thoughts. This kind of thinking underlies your experience and is based on profound and overlooked notions. You can't locate suffering in the body, so look into that. What am I doing with my mind such that my state is like this?

How you use your mind has consequences. You can just not do stuff, which is to say, you can recognize yourself as the source of the activity, and stop generating it as a result. You might assume that circumstances and the world somehow "cause" your internal state, but this is just not true. Meditation can help you start gaining some mastery over your mind. Catch yourself at the beginning of unfruitful thought dynamics without engaging in them, before they gain momentum. What am I doing in this particular case?

I'd clarify what I'm after and then take up a practice based on that.

Likely a case of unfounded openness. Should keep it experiential and real.

To recreate Einstein's quote:

You're being too harsh. It has some use.

Might want to check out Rupert Spira and Adyashanti.

@Leo Gura Isn't communicating understanding the purpose of your content? How we take it is on us. I understand this could be problematic for a wide audience, though. Provided that it is true, then it is the case now. Becoming aware of it would facilitate freedom.

Holy. Mine would go something like this:

Nice. Put it to the test

Don't fall into a negative disposition of thinking "it's all bullshit." This attitude might stem from unrealistic expectations or a fantasy, which is normal when it comes to this topic. You should remain sober about what any given pursuit entails. If you find your approach lightweight, superficial, or pretentious, make sure that you're being real with yourself first. Clearly, the end result is unknown to us yet we can have a grounded idea of where the practice is headed, even if it turns out to be untrue.

A model^

I do. Gives one something to think about, consider.

Just don't insult other people here. I edited your comment.

@The Crocodile Please do not insult people.

Asked GPT to fuck with my mind. This is what it came up with: