UnbornTao

@Leo Gura Have you tinkered with Linux?

Such realisation can occur now. My argument is that that's pretty much how it always goes for individuals, what precedes it (intense focus, contemplative effort, brutal openness) may help in the relative domain but is rarely significant because realization is a sudden leap in consciousness. It seems like it always happens out the blue. I experienced what I'd call a no-self insight as I was walking my dog. What seemed to help prior to that experience was being open and wanting to know my nature. But surely I wouldn't create a method of dog-walking as a promise for people to get nearer to awakening. Ultimately it is always direct. You can work decades and decades strenuously and not get it and get it in an instant as was the case with Ramana, for example. You are you. External is indirect and not needed. No reason to think it can't be grasped now. Btw, I'm not saying that it is probable, just pointing out that it is possible. Or that going solo is somehow better or more special. I'm saying grasp it by whatever means and methods you and others invent, as long as you get it. Otherwise this chatting and debating goes nowhere. Impeccable logic, but not true in this case. This absolute matter isn't relative nor a process. There's actually a method, which is direct consciousness, and it isn't a method. "Person" points to a distinction between the individual you and another. It is up to the individual --you-- to get it. That's the gist of what I meant by person. Going solo can be challenging in many ways. One way you can mitigate this obstacle is by being ruthlessly rigorous and honest with yourself. "What am I actually conscious of"? In my case, it's not hard to see that I don't know who am I, even though it is mostly a superficial sense. We tend to pretend like we know, which is pointless and counterproductive; it is more ignorance. What is is prior to perception, interpretation, and cognition. The depth and implications of this claim must be personally and profoundly contemplated.

Sounds like you might be afraid of something. You could look in that direction.

What if the solution is along the lines of learning to relate authentically? That doesn't provide us with instructions on how to be or what to do, yet it might be a fruitful direction to follow. Notice what you're doing. The past already happened. A story/narrative is made up out of one's interpretations. We're served by setting imagined past trauma aside. In your experience of relating to another, those are excuses that stand in the way of being present. One's life story isn't true but a story that is self-crafted. Better for us not to make up excuses in order to justify our inability to relate now. Rather, focus on what real relating entails experientially: your presence, acknowledging another's presence, willingness to communicate.

What do you mean angel numbers? They don't mean anything unless meaning is given to them.

Isaac Newton, Einstein, and Kant.

Robert Fritz's insights on the creative process. He's a creator, not a derivative.

I think truly groundbreaking work is harder to come by than you make it out to be. That said, Werner Erhard. His work catalysed the human potential movement back in the 70s.

If both like it enjoy it then. To play devil's advocate as usual though, the reality of a relationship has to be experienced in person, you've got to be in the presence of another. A lot of potential for intimacy and deeper relating is lost by going digital. Depends on what you want out of the relationship.

Focus on your own work.

What are you doing? For how long? Be active throughout the day. Clean up the house, study, work, read, move around. High intensity, daily engaging exercise for one or two hours for prolonged periods of time kick your ass. I think that by design such investment in energy makes one hungry.

If you're unwilling to relate to others authentically then why are you asking? Learn and practice to be present with another, not your traumas, ideas, etc., that you have about them. Arguably your traumas might still be there but when relating they're irrelevant and get in the way. This is easier said than done. Figure out the how for yourself, make up exercises aligned with that. For example, consider where's another? Where is your pain and expectations? And notice that's not an experience nor presence of another.

@28 cm unbuffed You just have to get over your trauma and start relating to women authentically.

Exercise, physical labor, fasting. Don't have snacks. Eat nutritious food when hungry. Maybe skip a meal or two.

Small people resent vital and skilful individuals. Your success makes them feel comparatively inferior and at a loss. Others may get jealous or compete when you're bigger than them but you don't have to evoke either. What others do is their own problem and something out of your control.

Okay thanks for sharing. What are you now for real? You might look into that.

You're talking about something else, not a direct consciousness. You are already you and it is always freeing and joyful to grasp that. Likely going through a state precipitated by your cosmology (and drugs).

What do you mean by external indicators? I'd say no because it is direct and sudden, it either happens or not. One can be open, focused, etc., but there's no "recipe" nor method. It's a fact that enlightenment depends on you. You can be around people, but it doesn't change the fact that it is you who wakes up. Monks and contemplative people are usually solitary types, their commitment is to truth. By what you say, it sounds like you might be looking to being part of a community. That's good and it's useful to clarify what one is doing and why.

Contemplative efforts can occur in a group setting, too. But in this domain, it is the case that you are the one who must get it even if assisted by others and regardless of circumstances! Who is going to get enlightened now? You. Not talking about non-duality nor spirituality, to be clear. What's absolutely true now? Grasping this personally is the priority.

Welcome to the forum! Hope you learn a lot from it.

Canary Islands.

Deep down, you're afraid of everyone. "Other" scares you. Others are dangerous to your self-survival. Since you assume to be an object living in an internal world, hence limited, anything outside of it has the potential to be threatening to that "inner one". The author of this quote had a point: In addition to that, buried down all this baggage, you also feel love for everyone, since others are recognized as not-separate from you!

No need to talk about it if you don't want to. If you're asked, you might talk about it. Just keep in mind what your speech is about and what it is accomplishing -- usually entertainment. Nothing wrong with that. Certainly if you encounter a facilitator, it'd helpful to ask her questions and engage in dialogue. Dialogues and shared contemplations can also be had as in dyads, so these are other possibilities that can empower your own work, not just entertain you. You can also read profound books as a "conversation" between the author and you. Read Rumi's poetry and Ramana's words as a shared dialogue, for example. This disposition might help you in truly listening and grasping the material. Also clarify what's meant by spirituality: You could plainly call it being honest, pushing yourself into your experience. If anything, that's a pro-truth, pro-life endeavour. Contemplation is an art that can be applied to any matter. Look into what business, body, emotions, sports, sex, learning, etc., all are. This can be considered "spiritual", although I myself steer away from using abstract terms as much as I can.

So 3 useful things: - Master something, focus on being effortless at it (which likely requires the most work) - Transform completely - Understand everything Let's do that.

got it thanks.