UnbornTao

Ok.

Fair. That's an analogy, though.

Powerful quote that resonates with me: from a talk given 5/7/1989 Vernon Howard's Higher World - MP3 CD Volume 27, talk 679, track 25

I love words. If you think about it, why call it love if it's absolute? Why give it the name of a human emotion? Notice you're holding love as a relative. The word is popular, do we know what it is, though? Good advice.

You is a good one -- if coming from direct experience, as you say. If it's absolute, how come it is a facet of something else? Is love a part of god? This is for fun. Notice how fantasising may be less likely to occur with less common words such as truth, being or absolute as opposed to god and love. As a teacher, filling the student's mind with too much stuff can be detrimental to her own process.

What about Absolute or Truth? These leave the matter up for grabs, which is good. What do they try to point to unless you become conscious yourself? People hear love and will pursue their fantasies and expectations of what it means, since everyone assumes to know love. Calling it true or truth isn't fancy. A bit like the equivalent of calling stretching yoga. An open inquiry gets conditioned from the start with the result they expect to find. This is why I think it is misleading to call it love from the viewpoint of facilitation. Anyway, banana or truth, the key is personal consciousness.

You're already you. Why fear it? I keep thinking you're talking about something different -- states, maybe -- from awakening.

What is Maturity? is so good. Listening to it again. Several points hit home. The ability to compromise, refusing to engage in emotional manipulation tactics, sacrificing oneself for a greater purpose. Ironically (or not), I seem to be less mature in certain aspects now than when I was a child.

@Razard86 Good, thank you. What do you mean by communicating with the universe?

Why call it love if it's absolute?

@Razard86 Not clear to me what you said. Authenticity and integrity as principles, along with other things. This relates more to style than substance. I was pressing you to get clearer in your experience so I can better understand your posts. What do you mean by non-dual state? What are the two minds that you say the body has? It also sounds like you're turning a concept of enlightenment into a cosmology or model (karma, chakras), if that's what you're talking about.

@Razard86 I'm the one asking. What are you trying to get across?

Can you clarify what you mean?

We could say that biology constructs sex and a great deal of gender. Gender also seems to involve a lot of concept. Anyway I'm not interested in this now.

Special is far from it.

Nice, from that place you can now ask deeper questions. "Hey, how come I'm bored? What is this experience called boredom? Why is it there?", for example.

It hasn't up to this point, so it wouldn't be difficult to extrapolate.

As close as anyone else

You're focusing on intellect. I want us to focus on experientially locating self. This isn't enlightenment either but a way to ballpark one's contemplative efforts. Where is the clarity about you? Both communications have the "stink" of intellect. What I hear is extrapolation, process, feeling-state. Don't sound like direct experience, likely state changes. They can be healing, blissful, and awe-inspiring. Let's postulate enlightenment is you and now. Attempting to communicate it would show up naturally and simply, as nothing is closer to you than you. In short, we have to grasp who each of us is.

Maybe the expression should be: What rock are you living under?

Why is an adversarial disposition towards others adopted?

Fair. On the other hand, using the same words doesn't mean we're talking about the same thing. I intent to be grounded on experience. You're still judging and comparing "answers" you've heard to what I said. An idea is an idea, where you hear it is secondary. If someone comes from a genuine breakthrough, that's what relevant, not their reputation, personality, or medium. You could be a homeless man living on the streets.

How does an enlightened master make an omelette?

Observe, pay attention.

What do you want? Why do you want it? Create a strategy aligned with your purpose and from that establish specific goals. Move towards your desired direction little by little. People pursue their wants even without spirituality. Happiness can occur for you whether one's desires are achieved or not. What is happiness?