UnbornTao

You might not be your self, but ok. Hey, enjoy your process.

Haha, what I'm saying is that the way you relate to something can cause unnecessary suffering.

I'm suggesting that you might be doing something similar to that.

I could take an experience of a simple headache and turn it into a fantastical story where I'm either a hero, a victim, etc. When having a headache: "I feel my kundalini awakening, it's real and it's my baseline, I feel it, it is prior to my brain, my body resists the experience, I can't do anything about it. But what does it mean? My third chakra has awakened. It feels like my sense of self is concentrated on the back of my head and might dissolve in one and a half weeks. The sensation is caused by my intense meditation session that I did yesterday, and because I ran naked on the street on a cold winter evening. My self is expanding into infinity, and I know it's real because it's there, I feel it, even though there's pain. My body loves the energy that's being rushing to my brain, and it seems to sustain it. Feels good." And I might well experience that as real. Thanks to the cosmology that I hold, I turned a headache into a wonderful kundalini awakening. Now I'm this higher being, able to expand my self thanks to that remarkable realization. And it was just a headache to begin with.

What way am I being such that I seem to be stuck in this "place", situation or set of circumstances? What way am I being: ... such that I'm coming at this (experience, event, person, object) the way I am (powerful, weak, afraid, brave, reserved, curious, confrontational, whatever)? On another note, the following dynamic might be self-validating: I assume X about myself, act like X, so am perceived by others as X, which then validates my conviction that I'm indeed X. Are you?

@Danioover9000 @Carl-Richard @zurew In short, what are they talking about?

Stop making shit up. Are you willing to listen and to experience something new, or do you want to keep resisting and insisting on your way of going about this? Are you open to moving from the position you find yourself in, or is this just complaining?

Relatable. Entire sequence:

@Sugarcoat Why do you assume so much stuff? Interpretation may lie behind the experiencing of anything. The body works fine on its own. Resistance can be let go of. Does it objectively exist, or is it an activity? Embrace and turn into, the experience. Discover what's actually there.

What roles do you take on in relation to others? What do you assume about yourself, and about the ways in which others should perceive you? "I have to be, play or show up as... feared, intimidating knowledgeable intelligent a problem stupid, dumb ignorant funny, comical, sarcastic loved liked admired cool macho righteous masculine feminine the princess innocent doormat entertaining agreeable, approved of disagreeable ashamed doubtful, hesitant, reluctant charismatic vague, abstract mysterious, mystical withdrawn, aloof, uninterested, detached inquiring, skeptical apathetic overbearing, controlling, dominant disillusioned the rebel nice the lone wolf seen, center of attention endearing vulnerable unexpected the victim cynical crazy, "on edge", disconcerting timid" etc. What you assume about yourself determines core aspects of your persona, behavior and manipulation strategies. It is foundational to your relating with others.

about is not it. A reaction is different from the thing being reacted to.

@Sugarcoat Well, stop it. Which is to say, get conscious of what the activity is doing. For example in the way you interpret events. Then you'll drop it naturally. Enjoy it either way as you're getting something out of it. Whatever it is you're going through, the way you relate to it may be causing unnecessary suffering. If you hold yourself as the victim of uncontrollable event, well, again, enjoy the ride. Doesn't it sound like it gets you something? It is something you've decided to take up. Grasp it as what it is, see it as unnecessary, then the soap opera can be let go of. The body works perfectly on its own regardless of self. Lighten up. You are already you and have always been, whatever that is. As an alternative shift, focus on moving towards what you want to experience and create.

Leadership is composed of the following: integrity, the ability to keep one's word and agreements, even if tacit, and specially with oneself being committed to something bigger than yourself taking a stand; being the cause in the matter, holding oneself as responsible for bringing about the imagined vision

To be honest I don't care about this topic, but that something is natural doesn't mean it has to take healthy forms. You're talking about something else. Whatever.

What's natural is the drive to have sex. Heterosexuality is the norm but I think both sexual predispositions have occurred throughout history.

Hey, enjoy!

@Sugarcoat Check out Break through Pain by Shinzen Young.

I think enlightenment and narcissism are completely different but not mutually-exclusive. Without transformation work, a person might be enlightened and narcissistic, arrogant, etc. Another aspect to consider is that deep, personal consciousness can make one act in a way that can be easily confused with traits such as arrogance and over-authoritativeness. As a society, we don't consider direct knowledge possible so this understanding might show up as preposterous to many. "Who do you think you are, claiming to know the nature of anything"? Hence the likelihood to consider these types of individuals as cult leaders. By the way, useful to consider that not every enlightened guy is doing the same work.

As a rather recluse guy, socialization isn't one of my strengths. I sometimes subconsciously avoid building deep emotional intimacy with others as a way to keep them at a distance. It may be a common pattern, one that is also applicable to extroverted individuals. In such cases, pain is imagined as a future possibility and as a result I get self-defensive, which might have been caused by trauma or past energy blockages. That might be why some individuals feel drawn to solitude, among other things.

Pointing to the direction of experiencing what that's about. Listening is possible and up to the individual. Your advice is valid.

What's actually experienced? Notions can show up for us as an experience. Even raw as a distinction might be concept. You seem to be afraid of losing self, so are imagining a future possibility you're unwilling to experience. You likely also hold ideals about what that's like, etc. If one's already made up solutions and imagined causes for an activity don't work, you might as well remain open. I suggest not to fill in the blank where questioning would occur. Who knows, maybe if you relaxed, the activity would dissipate on its own. Maybe if the experience is allowed to be turned into, it'll go away organically. The good news is that you might not be your self, and at the same time it isn't going anywhere. What you and self are is up for grabs. So breathe, be honest and contemplate.

See? Might want to look into what payoff it gets you to keep generating that activity. A lot of it is being conceptually added on top of "experience" by you. Stop assuming shit.

You may be making stuff up in order for your victim role to be validated. You're coming from ideas that you believe in rather than from a genuine experience. Self might be conceptual in nature; we don't know. If it's a feeling or emotional state, see it for what it is and enjoy the ride.

You might as well be making it up, so it would appear as occurring. But this isn't useful, short of experiencing what sources the activity. What has space got to do with it? What is "it"? "It" discovered something? What is your being and who is doing the resistance? What is the payoff you get out of acting like this? Look into what pain is. I wouldn't presume it to be an insight but rather a state precipitated by a set of beliefs. Increased consciousness is always positive and freeing, so keep going in that direction.

What is weak about it? Who would be gone? Who knows what will dissipate? What is that about, and how do you know?