UnbornTao

Okey doke.

In short, your mind is making stuff up that may not be grounded on "reality", true events or fact, whereas getting present tends to decrease your conceptualizing, providing a more accurate perception of what is happening within your experience. What's left in your experience when you strip away the ideas of chakras, hell, god? Feeling, thoughts, perception; elements in a raw, intimate and present form that are somehow more real. Even though you may benefit from them, reconsidering your relationship towards them--acknowledging that these may be beliefs and so not existentially true--helps create distance from them and opens up genuine questioning. Therefore, increasing one's presence is a good direction to move towards. Hope that helps.

Don't go by rumors. We may postulate, given some creative freedom (conjecture), that it's true already. And you're fine. See? Neither is it relative. So horror or fear doesn't apply here, so to speak. I'm not talking about psychedelic states. Should make a distinction between what's existential and what's mentally produced activity; the latter is what fear is about, and with enough consciousness, it can be decreased and stopped. Why would you be afraid of the truth if it's always been the case and, to get poetic, it is you already? So again, taking what you've heard on faith is not going to serve you. That way, you create certain expectations that aren't based on what's real, but add on to it.

I'd say it's more about the self-transcendent nature of beauty. It may not be about the object of perception, but perhaps about the fact that it exists--existence itself. Like wondering: what is this experience really about? For example, where is beauty found? You may read a poem that don't quite understand, or perhaps find it uninspiring. Although the poem remains the same, after going through a particular experience, reading it again may take on a different meaning, making it particularly beautiful to you this time.

@BlessedLion Still think he's too stuck in intellect (hence not really about enlightenment work) and doubt what he's conscious of. Overly focused on charts, mapping stuff, and providing a cosmology, which I think it's misleading and not the purpose of said work. It can be convincing and smart but that's distinct from simply communicating an authentic experience or direct consciousness. He might be aware of certain relative dynamics, but that's my opinion so far.

From a certain viewpoint, the moment we are born, we are doomed to play a game that can't be won. But so what? Without concocting a worldview about it, you can notice that how you hold yourself and the world is an activity whose source is you. If that's the case, when you see it happening in your experience, you can stop generating it. It's essentially carrying a subtle moody disposition as a backdrop of your experience, and blaming "life" for it. Heard it's quality material. From the little I've actually read, it looks promising. I find this infuriating and don't know why. I'd just call it philosophy, in that case.

One reason not to think in terms of "spirituality," especially when considering politics.

@bambi You need to do serious work on distinguishing concept from experience.

I find beautiful the poetry and classical music that I like, among other things. When you're able to find a dog shit beautiful, that's when you know you've made progress. The vulgar example is meant to mess with our images of what beauty is or should be like. Trying to hint at a deeper form of beauty.

Good question. Consider it yourself: What is intelligence? How does it come about? What are its components and purpose? When we say and agree that something or someone is deeply intelligent, what is that recognition about? It's tricky. Seems like there might be a principle at work here.

Enjoy!

Hey, do you understand everything there is? Have you transformed and become absolutely free? Then there's tons of work left to do.

User @Danioover9000 has been banned for continuously exhibiting overly immature and reactive behavior despite several warnings. Starting a new thread is preferred over reviving old ones.

Sounds good; I like her. On another note, it feels like impressions and other superficial stuff drives 99% of politics. Naive take of the day.

Looks like a Gotham City mayor.

Ok.

The idea that you have to literally die (what I got from your post) in order to get enlightened.

@Princess Arabia @Schizophonia I might make those at some point.

Whatever's true is true already, so don't promote silly ideas.

What if a brownies recipe were to be shared on this thread?

Your nature (you) getting itself vs thinking about what may be true based on rumors, without a direct encounter.

Get what's true beyond hearsay and speculation.

I've heard David Richo has a good book on that called Shadow Dance.