UnbornTao

The guy's passionate.

@zurew Always refreshing to read you.

Why do people do this? Are they really taking their discussions with LLMs that seriously? Tell them to go fuck themselves (except when you need a haiku or a technical problem solved).

If you hand me a ball called "my experience" and I catch it, then in that connection we might say that, metaphorically speaking, listening took place. Not the best metaphor. We see that this has to occur outside of, or independent of, my intellect and view. This action of mine would have to be entirely about you. If you think about it, you can't escape being relational. And being emotional oneself obstructs listening. It isn't really needed at all. One's reactions would be irrelevant here. Jargon, giving instructions, providing information, sharing the contents of your mind - these are not the same as the act of communicating. I feel that the depth of this simple act is hard to convey and develop for everyone. Just consider that it is possible for two people to create the same experience as a result of this process. Magic! And then what you do with it is up to you. Maybe you see it as a delusion, a fascinating idea, an intriguing notion, a profound insight, a manipulation, a joke, nonsense, or a feeling of sadness.

Oh yeah. Like K said, to truly listen to someone isn't very common. What would you say listening to another, in that case, would require? What would the other "do" beyond the ritual (nodding, hearing, paying attention) of having heard what you had to say? What would that process leave them with? For example, an idea? What would make you say, "Oh yeah, you listened"? This can be hard to see. Sometimes it seems someone may have listened because they agree with you or share the same view or conclusion, or can express themselves with similar terminology as yours. Not necessarily. After the process: What's their experience? And this very process is happening to us as we speak, and yet we think it doesn't apply to us.

Learn to discern hoopla from a communication. The following is an extremely obvious case of the former. Also, it's just funny as hell:

@EmiHyen Welcome.

@Eskilon I had finished writing a long response but ended up deleting it. This is just too superficial and inefficient. It would require a course or a seminar. Just be grounded. Enjoy.

I'd look into the work of someone who knows what they're doing, like Gabor Maté.

I admire your dedication to the craft. With AI, it's too tempting to outsource most of the coding work to it these days. Not that this is necessarily bad. It depends on your goals. Ahh, yeah, I remember lurking on one of those websites many years ago for your book list and downloading your commentaries/journal, but I never got around to reading them (just some fragments).

Didn't watch the entire video. Too depressing. What kind of people do that? Monsters.

Convert it to JPG.

Peel away any form of pretension you can identify in yourself - anything not fully aligned with or true to your actual experience. Knowing what's what here is the difficulty: you may start calling something experienced when in reality it is conceived. The mind can fabricate anything and pass it off as real and true, so remain open (even when you think you already know). This isn't meant to discourage the consideration of new possibilities not yet experienced, but it is an invitation to get real with yourself. Another arena where pretension runs especially deep is the social one. What do you want when talking to people? Why do you say what you say? What's your agenda? How do you want others to see you, and how do you think they actually see you? This whole endeavor is manipulation-based. What you do, and the impressions and reactions you generate, are dictated by that agenda. Stop the crap - and keep identifying the nonsense you engage in. Your beliefs, for example. At some point you may encounter - or rather uncover - a fundamental sense of falseness in your experience of yourself and the world. This is a valuable recognition, albeit a distressing one. What's best about all this work is that it's real and not merely intellectual and abstract. You - your mind - left to yourself, are guaranteed to be mischievous, given that truthfulness is simply not your concern except as a philosophical pretext for finding novel ways to feel better about your life. Treat this as a direction rather than a fixed destination.

Do you often code from scratch? Best I can do is *Markdown*.

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There is, once again, a conflation between listening and gullibility or agreement (or disagreement, for that matter). As usual, we tend to see listening as "saying yes" to things. Anything that takes the form of a straightforward position against a stance comes across as not having heard. Understandable, but wrong. And don't forget that the same position could be taken by the other party: "I'm the one not being listened to - don't be so closed-minded." Listening isn't incompatible with recognizing what something is - deluded, accurate, plainly false, biased, a manipulation, and so on - whatever purpose it may have had when it was invented. This is why questions are asked in the first place, especially basic, common-sense ones that people somehow tend to overlook. Educating people on this would easily take a good hundred hours of work. Why do cult dynamics always implicitly emphasize a certain kind of "open-mindedness"? You can begin to intuit what that's about. So yes, being critical and listening are not mutually exclusive; in fact, they complement each other. Without the former, what you may end up with is a kind of lightweight spiritualism, which is quite common. "The Earth is a rectangle."

Discussing listening while some kind of noise keeps making him pause, like on the other video. The guy knows what questions to ask.

Do you not get scared despite the apparent predictability? I mean, you know it's a horror game, that's its job.

So little commitment to your values.

I'm not familiar with most of those frameworks, to be clear. I taught myself basic CSS and HTML as a teenager and set up a tech site with a friend, but don't remember most of it at this point. If you're serious or genuinely curious about it, taking the tedious path is worthwhile - you can then understand how the wheel works and recreate it any way you want when it comes to CSS.

There were also some Chinese ones and whatnot. But the joke's on you, I'll be the robot wiping your ass.

I call that Tuesday.