UnbornTao

For sure, it's quite mind-boggling how much influence language has on our reality. Yet it's often taken for granted as something obvious. Science, philosophy, religion - these could not exist without it. It seems that, without language, intellect cannot exist either - just some examples. It's a bit like the graphical interface of a computer, to use an analogy. As for your last sentence, I mostly agree with that definition as a better way to frame our investigation. Terms like pointing and reference are key here.

Definitely. And it's true that LLMs can be quite useful when it comes to troubleshooting, basic guidance, and so on - as long as we keep in mind that they can be quite unreliable sometimes. So it's tricky to discern when that might happen. It's pretty nice in my view too, depending on what you want to do with it. For gaming, control, and customization, it's probably the worst of the three. But in return you get a seamless, efficient, and relatively secure experience that tends to just work out of the box. What distro do you currently use?

Windows can mess up your bootloader in dual-boot systems. Like you said. it is recommended to install Linux after Windows. In Mint's installation menu there's an option to install it alongside Windows. That said, I think it's better to install each system on its own drive; otherwise, I find dual-boot setups a bit cumbersome and inefficient for my workflow, which is why I went all the way with Cachy. Might be worth testing a distro in a virtual machine first.

What sets it apart from Windows or macOS in that sense? I'm not a technical user but am a bit curious about that.

As a layman, I enjoyed this presentation for whatever reason. It's probably not as deep as the other resources shared here, but still:

Curious about what browser you use and why. There have been talks about some browsers adopting AI features, which might not go too well with a preference for privacy. I use Brave, by the way. It automatically blocks advertisements and strips out some trackers and whatnot.

Setting up a Windows virtual machine on Linux:

Let's postulate that early humans could interact in some way even before the context for language had been invented. They could react, perceive, and respond to their physical environment without it. Something can influence your body or behavior, yet that event does not automatically carry language. Feeling, perceiving, and responding - all of this can occur without any linguistic framework. Now, picture a sound. The sound is what it is - a sound. Your perception of it is meaningless input until it is interpreted, often at lightning speed. At what point in the process of experiencing does language enter? Without that step, could a shout represent something other than itself? For example, hearing the spoken word 'ambulancia' on its own could not conjure an image of such vehicle in your mind - the connection exists only because we already inhabit a network of language. Revisit, if you want, the quote in the picture above. That a sound can even point beyond itself - from mere vibration to a distinction - is already a vast leap in experience. You might feel overjoyed at being told that you're intelligent and insightful. But watch carefully what occurs throughout this seemingly benign and simple process that you take for granted - what we commonly call experience. The assumption we make, steeped as we are in language, is that it reflects reality. Yet while language can describe the world, it also generates it. Our way of regarding language emerges from the very domain it has created.

Thanks. This is my point, and the reason why I made a distinction between particular language (what we usually regard as language) and "language-space", which enables languaging in the first place. It seems to me that you're talking about the former. In any case, how do you see it? It's a bit tricky to pinpoint what language actually is. Where - so to speak - is it found? Locate it. Oh, I just had an insight: things can - and often do - go over one's head, especially profound shit, even despite intellectually understanding this possibility. And it happens to me, too. (This is unrelated to our conversation, to be clear.)

Survival = life.

Yep.

Windows Recall and all that. It not only debloats the system but also applies some quality-of-life fixes. I guess it's a matter of personal preference.

Maybe, but not really. You might want to Startpage it next time.

Okay.

Anger Meditation.

@Human Mint @Carl-Richard

Wow, that's a lot to tackle. Wishing you the best.

Beautiful. But Windows? Come on You might want to run https://github.com/ChrisTitusTech/winutil to debloat your system.

Nice. What do you hope to accomplish? Good luck.

I initially removed it but added it back in. We have a hard time actually communicating with our relatives, much less with "the cosmos," whatever that is. In my view, it's based on wishful thinking. I was challenging the place that notion was coming from.

Feeling something requires an additional component for another person even to conceive that someone else is attempting to convey their experience. Gesture, tone, and so on are subsets or subtypes of language. Consider once again the exercise of experiencing life prior to the invention of language. We keep failing to do so. This should indicate how deeply embedded we are in this invention.

How do you see language? I think I made it clear that it goes beyond words and symbols. I said it is what enables those things in the first place - the space in which they arise.

Feeling can occur without language. Again, you assume that communication exists "out there" as a feature of the universe. A Neanderthal may have liked someone or something - this doesn't mean language was taking place. Loving something does not entail language. We consider love as a connection with someone or something, but care should be taken not to conflate this kind of feeling-connection with communication. It's like projecting emotions onto animals. We may assume that dogs or similar creatures experience emotions, but this interpretation might be something we impose. You're talking about producing an effect on another, which is different from language. Like in the earlier example: do solar flares communicate something to you? Or a piece of glass falling to the floor? Again, earnestly attempt to experience life prior to the invention of language. You're proving my point: language is a completely taken-for-granted reality. It's not. It had to be invented at some point.