UnbornTao

Just in case.

Not sure how to respond. Could it be that you're giving opinion more weight than it deserves? If we consider the distinction between the objective and the subjective, we see that facts are, or at least can be, objective, while opinions tend to be subjective. No matter what your opinion is, it won't change "reality." Reality is independent of one's opinions. That's why we need to clarify what's what, rather than think in vague terms. A theory, observation, or hypothesis is more grounded in reality than mere preference or biased judgment. Then again, you seem to be using the term quite broadly, so that is that.

According to him, he did say that multiple times. If not, now you know. I'm not really into the conversation but thanks for letting me know.

Avoid spreading conspiracies.

@Raze has told you he's not a muslim.

Bring up examples of opinion, belief, observation, and hypothesis - preferably in the same context or regarding the same subject or claim. I'd say facts and observations are generally more reliable or accurate than merely offering an opinion. Opinion, as I currently see it (is this view itself an opinion?), is like a frivolous "commentary" on something. It might be subjective in nature. Put in its place, it is appropiate, but nothing more than that. It is not conclusive. When it comes to understanding, skill, truth, or performance, opinion is almost completely irrelevant. For example, we make a distinction between what an opinion is, and our opinions about it.

Happened to me once too, while driving.

I don't know. What about life? I bet we have yet to discover what it is.

@Yimpa a second Simpsons movie? Fuck enlightenment.

I meant that information can be about something other than opinion, but I see what you're saying here. I don't see why it would automatically have to be an opinion. Couldn't the position you arrive at be an observation, hypothesis, educated guess, etc? You could even not make up your mind about the matter, instead deciding to leave it open. I'm not very lucid now 😆 Also, are we sure our focus on logic is adequate here? Fair. We can also see by your example that opinion is often a frivolous matter. Logic could still be used to correct that wrong position, or one could simply admit that there's something more to discover.

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Got it, thanks.

How do you see logical conclusions? I'd say observation, proof, hypothesis, theories, feedback, unbiased assessments, inferences, and so on. It seems opinions reside in too superficial a domain depending on where they're being applied. "Wool generally comes from sheep" - that may be regarded as factual. Whether you like the kind of shirt made from it is another matter - subject to opinion. I don't quite follow your second sentence. Could the information itself still differ in nature from an opinion? I might, for example, share a mathematical formula with you, in which case whatever is personally opined about the information would be a moot point, it seems to me.

I like the principle behind it and the poetic expression although this point could be clarified even more: What's your experience of this communication?

Wouldn't that be painting with broad strokes, though? Would it then follow that every form of logical conclusion is an opinion? Based on second-hand evidence and consensus - since none of us has been to outer space (as far as I know) - we can logically conclude that the Earth is round. Even though this is fundamentally a valid, widely-accepted belief, would it be accurate to think of it as an opinion?

Observation and fact - among other things- I wouldn't categorize as opinion, so that's that. 3+2 = 5 isn't an opinion. Not really, I think. You? Sounds good. Is there some kind of emotional charge and value assessment there? Such as liking and disliking?

Okay, fair.

@Lucasxp64 I'm not the OP but thank you!

Yeah...

Yeah, some opening. If possible, clarification.

Or rather: "blue is the best color."

I guess. What is not an opinion? (I'm not implying that everything is an opinion)

That's like asking for "artificially-generated" information. It may be entertaining as an intellectual exchange but going through the motions isn't the point of inquiring. Wonder is. It's tempting to use it in the first place because it is easy and passive for the most part - we generally just want to be told "the answers." Still, it might be useful in certain ways, or in other areas. Actually contemplating may be emotionally difficult, boring, and even discouraging at times, but in the end it is a genuine probing, not a mere request for data - especially in this context of enlightenment work.

Is it a form of judgment (whether good or bad)? Or is it more of a preference or liking? Seems to be entirely subjective - up to the individual. A particular form of subjective assessment? A fact could be seen as the antithesis of an opinion - in my opinion. "Blue is my favorite color"

Thanks. Also: Is there a question here?