UnbornTao

How come you couldn't make the recording (regardless of what's claimed)? We often mistake subjective states for "the Truth." I'm more interested in investigating the source of that inability (and perhaps the refusal to publicly acknowledge it). This is precisely how "everything is absolute" and "everything is imaginary" can both be marshaled in favor of any argument you like. At some point it devolves into conceptual games untethered from actual experience. We don't call clipping our nails an awakening. Perceiving something is not the same as becoming conscious of it. Having an emotion is not enlightenment. Feeling a feeling is not an awakening. And so on.

What category do you think in, such that you think you can record yourself turning into something that you can't, on camera? Could it be that you took an experience for something it was not? This is a good case study to reveal what's actually assumed behind one's claims.

Did he try Salvia, though? Did he have the right genetics?

You said it is an experience, not me. Why? Again, this clarifies some things.

You are mistaken. If you think it is an experience, that explains a lot.

What isn't? Nor is it any kind of experience, but here we are. I'm serious, too.

You're going off Leo's script about INSANITY and all that nonsense. I like to bring up Ramana. What do you think happened to him? He just recognized the truth of his nature, and profoundly so. We have a lot of romantic ideals about these matters. And we certainly conflate experiences with consciousness all the time. Becoming conscious promotes freedom, and what you mention may occur as side effects of intense practice, but I was talking about "awakening," not spirituality or psychedelics. The effects you talk about are a function of the mind doing it. If they're negative, that may hint that it isn't really a breakthrough. What's true is true already, and you're doing fine. The effects can occur even without any breakthrough, so one can convince himself or herself that since he's experiencing the prescribed effects, he's having awakenings.

No, don't spread nonsense. You just realize what's already true.

There's Discourse as an option.

Mental breakdowns are not awakening. Take some time to ground yourself, and don't take your beliefs so seriously.

Oh, this is great for studying systems of belief. It can go either way - I'm X or Y (Or I'm not X or Y.) I do agree with the sentiment - admitting one's experience and not trying to superimpose notions onto it, pretending that they're true for you. I bet there's A LOT of that going around. As far as I'm concerned, the whole field of spirituality is based on these kinds of affectations. Do we know the difference, though?

Shit, my condolences. I'm sure she had a loving life. Dogs are the best.

And honestly? That's rare.

I thought that was a good thing?

You're talking about TES VII in Quote #678. Skyrim in... space underwater.

It is what it is.

@Natasha Tori Maru Woohoo!

Okay then.

Ironic that the AI bubble post shares an AI-produced video and channel.

I'll take that, and I agree for the most part. It would be better not to mistake the self-image of being 'highly conscious' for something real and grounded in actual consciousness. What's actually happening underneath, beyond the claims? If that's what's going on, it needs to be called out plainly - the justifications people use to feel superior to others, because they believe they've landed on the right set of ideas, don't hold up. The whole story is convenient, but false. I shared a video on authenticity earlier that's quite relevant here. To put it crudely and oversimplified: your shit stinks just like everyone else's. If you think otherwise... pay attention. You're not special. Also, take a hard look at your ideals. And if you want to socialize, do it. Don't dress it up as you being the reluctant outsider forced to play along with 'lesser' games, or anything like that.

We use terms differently. The way I use 'becoming more aware' refers to a process that encompasses perceptive experience. Becoming more mindful and attentive may be seen as forms of increasing awareness. Noticing one's state of mind, body, mood, thinking, emotions, feelings, etc., too. This is more aligned with a meditation session.

Same underlying dynamic. But if it helps, then great. At some point it may be seen as irrelevant whether it resonates or not.

And it's already been settled by you that that's going to be me, right? It's also possible that neither party is right, and that we're engaged in conceptual games to which we may have attributed the characteristic of absolute truth. Hopefully the interchanges bring to the fore dynamics that are taking place - without us noticing - as we operate here. To put a spin on my response, consider the nature and process of your verification.