UnbornTao

Didn't you hold consciousness to be a function of the brain when arguing in favor of drugs as a means to awakening? And do you consider things like so-called "absolute color" awakenings to be direct consciousness? It's possible that some of our distinctions aren't as rigorous or precise as those made by certain masters - hence the value of a conversation. Honestly, people will just believe this. They already do. They like it and don't really care about what's true, even though they may think they do. They're after a better experience. And who isn't? And of course they'll adopt it. It's much better than listening to some disagreeable jerk who's seen as taking away their candy. Alright then, let's feel good about ourselves. It's soothing. It's comforting. And when all is said and done, what is true?

I call BS on that, sorry. Like Christians claiming a Christ Awakening. There are things that are deliberately left unsaid. Don't you think it is easy for people to talk? I can chat away too. With some effort, you'd have believed the same about me. Talk is cheap. And certainly, I could have complemented that with a psychedelic trip report and all the extra bells and whistles. But in the end, it would've just been a self‑indulgent exercise. It would've started with me believing in something, and then trying to retroactively confirm it in my own mind.

I'll repeat that agreeing and disagreeing are irrelevant and not my concern. Hmm, I think we desperately need a video on listening. But who would make it? And who would listen to it? Leave the person aside and consider that a set of beliefs can be, at least partly, inconsistent with direct consciousness. Direct consciousness is not a worldview, even though it could be made to fit into one. But at that point it would no longer be true. It would be something believed. Are you sure that the reason you gave, both to us and probably to yourself, is the real reason you aren't willing to talk to him? Is it about fostering an open discussion, or about defending one's worldview?

Again, I don't give a duck. You have a lot of Leo's yes-persons here. I should have clarified that you yourself provide the cosmology for others to adopt. Revisit the Teal Swan thread and the videos on listening.

And you talk about rigid framing. Behold, a believer. Do an episode on belief. Isn't this pretty much the issue? One's framing (because it is a framing) is taken for granted as true and the contradicting parties are held to be the ones that are closed-minded and lacking in consciousness. You just have to reframe the disagreement as "The other just needs an X (which might be a belief system) Awakening."

I think he was just asking for a way to contact him.

Again, this is just a weird conflation. Why bring up particular activities in relation to something you hold as absolute? An absolute doesn't care, so to speak. It makes no distinctions between one thing and another. It's like saying black holes are absolute space. Sure, space contains everything, but why single out one particular invention happening within it? Are you trying to imply that a combination of the elements found within some "thing" is what makes up that thing? Why would it even occur to you to choose those things other than as rhetorical devices? You could be just as radical by teaching people that cauliflowers are absolute. They're as disgusting as genocide, too. People would start having Cauliflower Awakenings. It seems to me that many of your "absolutes" sound an awful lot like relatives. And also, look at how people end up generating a worldview out of this.

One liner in three, two...

Consider that you might be guilty, to a degree, of spreading this kind of attitude , one that invites people to become followers (despite the necessary warnings telling people not to believe you). Or does it not? There are people right now, as we speak, self‑assuredly believing in all this absolute love thing. And they likely think they're not believing something and essentially deluding themselves. It does feel good, self‑validating, and great. And you virtually take them at their word when they add any word in uppercase letters accompanied by "Awakening." Like with the absolute colors nonsense. What is this about? Of course. Not fooling yourself is precisely the point. You can't be a sincere "liar." Again, I can distance myself from any one person or teacher, it's not about that. I might sometimes come across as righteous in some people's eyes. But it's not so much about defending any one position as it is about destroying that kind of attitude in the first place. See how, in people's eyes, this easily becomes a matter of choosing either Y or X? Like picking a religion, essentially? Despite your warnings, people still end up believing your little world-bubble. They might not realize it but they adopt your particular conceptual framework and take it as an absolute.

There're various reasons for why certain teachers might become popular. One of them, I'd bet, is that people can't really tell what sounds good from what's real. It is painful to see. What they do is simply judge the impressions made on them, and their reactions to what's being said.

Oh, I didn't mean myself. I don't think anyone here really does know what they're talking about either - except maybe in their own minds. I meant one of those two. One issue is that I could talk in such a way, and say the right things, that you would believe I've had any kind of awakening. So we can see that this is a bit of a bitch. We could end up mutually validating each other's beliefs without realizing it. And then whatever's actually true would suffer, so to speak. You can't really pretend your way to the truth. And pretension seems to be the main game in town for us humans.

That's fine. I think you don't want to be challenged by someone who knows what they're talking about.

Maybe. Then again, maybe it's the other way around.

Angelo DiLullo. Are you looking exclusively for scientific podcasts, or spiritual ones as well?

Touché.

God, this smells from miles away haha.

A comma makes a difference Also, are you being skeptical of the test results?

@Leo Gura You should talk to Brendan Lea, then. He could help clear up some of the fantasies floating around here - if people are honest and willing to listen.

@CARDOZZO 'Journalist' was my test result.

Right...

Nice.

Look up Spencer Greenberg, clearerthinking.org

GPT Energy?

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