UnbornTao

Skywind will do away with the original combat system and it will include a "purist" mode, without quest markers. 2047 can't come soon enough!

Espabila Pedro.

That's the best place to start. Progress! You are essentially saying "it is not possible to grasp the nature of experience." I understand the irritation, though. The purpose of this thread is to recognize that the truth of experience is currently unknown to us, and to open up as a result. It isn't meant to "enlighten" us, although it wouldn't hurt. The point is precisely not to dissect concepts but experience. It just so happens that the medium used for that is written communication, which makes the exchange trickier.

What about the sense of self? There's no perceptive organ for that. I propose that much of what we consider to be experience is more conceptual in nature than we currently are aware of, whereas experience may be something else entirely. Is there something within experience that isn't a sense or a sensation? Do we even experience an object as it is, or do we rather experience how it relates to us? Look at an object you like. The liking itself isn't a perception or experience of the object, even though these -- the liking and what we may call the interpretation of the object -- are both commonly put under the same umbrella of a singular "experience." You're making sense. I wouldn't consider the self to be at the source of these activities, but maybe you (what you are), as @CARDOZZO alluded to.

It's not about having a definition but an insight. Not the meaning per se but what it is. That's what we're tying to work out here. Since we already live within the distinctions "experience," perception, etc., then it begs the question what those are. The distinctions aren't mere abstract notions that we cognize. It is neither linguistic nor tautological. What are they, really? One of the goals here is being able to experientially differentiate between these in a precise manner. Intellectually, we think we know what these are but in reality it is likely we mush them all into the vague label of "experience." You encounter an object; it turns out that you feel attracted to it and it has positive associations and memories relative to you -- use this example. Might edit the response.

Sounds good. And what is the nature of either? In this case, experience. For example, how do you see perception and experience?

Not sure, although I'd rather keep the discussion focused specifically on what experience is. When you say "this," it leaves a lot of room for confusion. When we say that we have experience, what do we mean by that? And from that contemplation, we start to make new, finer distinctions within experience. Another angle to investigate this: What's the difference between experiencing something, perceiving something, and interpreting and making sense of something?

Good to hear!

What is that something, and is it actually happening for yourself? For example, when perceiving an object, do we experience what it is? What is it that comes up for us in that encounter, relative to that thing, say, a banana? What if your self is happening to experience?

I'm personally looking forward to Skywind. A remake along those lines made by a third-party would be worth a shot imo. I'd say the world, story, lore and characters are the "soul" of the game, as opposed to some of the ancient gameplay mechanics.

I mean experience as in experiencing something, the occurrence of experience, not as expertise or knowledge. I say this because of the picture you posted which seems to be more related to the latter. I'd say that's the same question -- clarifying what it is, and thus isn't. Hey, maybe it is absolute, and in such a case this would be inconceivable. It seems as though we conflate perception with experience. Something perceived seems to come prior to experience, which might come about as a process of interpreting and making sense of sense input. Perhaps. Also, again, speculating, awareness isn't experience. It might be that awareness is at the source of experience.

A sense is experienced, so that doesn't seem to be it. What if self is the ancillary process here, a result that comes about after experience, rather than the self being the foundation for it?

I'm curious: How to approach a remaster (or remake) of such an old game? How would you reimagine the experience? Many fans seem to be opposed to the idea, thinking that it would sacrifice what made the original special. I think it'd be worth a shot.

@Never_give_up Yes, it is tricky. I presume it wouldn't be a matter of formulating an answer, but rather of having insight. Experiential contemplation is different. It's like: "When all my notions and beliefs about the matter are set aside, what is there as experience itself?"

Played better in the second half than during the rest of the season.

You're essentially asking what 'experience' is. Something to contemplate.

Definitely! Better not to follow that guide, though.

What I'm saying is that we don't know the nature of either, and that they're commonly held to be the same thing.

That's precisely the distinction we need to make, or see. Intellectually, I could say that awareness is relative and may be a function of experience or the body while consciousness is the source of these limited activities. But the trick is realizing what each of them is.

@Yimpa Nahh you're perfectly fine.

The Total Overhaul mod list is the closest thing we have to a Morrowind remaster right now, and it's surprisingly enjoyable as a starting point.

I went ahead and installed the Total Overhaul mod list from here: https://modding-openmw.com/guides/auto/. It automatically configures the installation for you -- just follow the instructions. You could pay for a month of Nexus Mods premium for much faster and automatic downloads. This is what the mod list looks like:

You're going down strange and dysfunctional paths.

Do it! https://www.reddit.com/r/Morrowind/s/ZSZclDeRK4

I gave it a quick test, and you're right, it is quite... rough, at least on the technical aspect. Mods are pretty much a prerequisite imo; I ended up installing a hundred or so. I'll get back to the game soon. Imagine how your current favorite game would be received 25 years from now. Nostalgia plays an important role, too.