UnbornTao

You guys are quite creative.

How do you handle the frustration of people frequently misunderstanding your points?

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Appreciate that.

The proof is in the pudding. -- When you're able to doubt anything and everything, can you doubt the act of doubting?

Too discomforting and raw to look at?

Your points do seem to often fall on deaf ears but they tend to be balanced and reasonable.

@ExploringReality That sounds like the wishful thinking aspect of this matter. Reread @kieranperez's response. The points clearly went over your heads. And if you bring Terence McKenna into the discussion, I don't think it works in favor of your argument. Not sure about Ram Dass, though.

I don't even know of a method that shows you this life, let alone a fictious or imagined one.

I was being sarcastic, it sounds fun, thanks.

You could start by changing how you spend your free time, for example. Do something different - that'll show you that you can. It doesn't have to be huge. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxQ7VHaWh_4 Sometimes, the best way to get unstuck is to realize you were never stuck to begin with.

Watched a couple of minutes. My baseline state of consciousness is the same afterward, but thanks.

Do you know how to make an omelette? Just trying to push us into our experience.

Hey, you might want to give A Course in Miracles a read - maybe try the workbook too. That could be more empowering.

Survival is life.

Plus, it would've been relatively easy - and tempting - to conjure up and formulate some "insights" in and with my mind afterwards. A crucial question for people: Were you enlightened prior to taking them, or did you resort to the drugs in the hope that they'd lead you to enlightenment (and therefore lack the reference for this realization)? The answer is almost always the latter. From that, mischief can easily occur, where one confuses a state for "consciousness." "Potentially deluding altogether," according to Adi Da.

Horniness doesn't increase your consciousness, Carl.

Too technical? Anyway, it's a state - a change in the body-mind. Not different in essence from being told a joke and laughing as a result. Or feeling inspired after watching a motivational talk.

You can watch porn and get aroused too. Doesn't mean the pornstars are enlightened.

You should check out this other thread for a more detailed explanation of why no drug can produce enlightenment or increase consciousness: Hurry up! Free access - available for a limited time only!

For the love of god.

I see.