UnbornTao

So many assumptions inherent in the question. Start by calling it what you're really meaning: a drug state. Don't mislead people.

España.

Fed into LLMs already. It's no longer yours. Showing skill!

Anything but listening. Hey, use this. As a contrast to your fluffy theories and feel-good philosophies. At least it's starting to get more real now. You can probably tell that your facade doesn't work with me. You're full of it, and that's OK. If you claim to be so advanced, then confront this. We can all talk about our commitment to "truth." And in practice we tend to run away from it like the plague (by ignoring it, for example), especially when it contradicts what we want to hear.

@Miguel1 My God, you really insist on pretending that your shit is somehow special because you're glamorized by being here. I'm sorry - besides my frustration at hearing BS, I like poking fun and playing the jester. You can hear this as an 'ugly, unloving thing' from 'unconscious' people (mostly because you don't like hearing it and it doesn't confirm your fantasies), or actually pay attention to what you're doing.

Awaken me, make no mistakes.

I love it! It goes to show that we can talk about things like self-deception until we're out of breath, but then what we actually end up "doing" tends to be inconsistent with our artificially-adopted philosophy and theories. This disparity we're unaware of.

By making them discern what's spiritual fantasy, for starters. Huge domain.

That may be. What's in question is the claim, though. People rarely tell the truth, and again, you can lie to yourself without knowing it. I can take some drugs, go through some experiences, and claim to have had "awakenings" - among other things. And I could convince you, too.

Bookmarked. I'm definitely all three combined.

Check again, seriously.

Thanks

Heresy! You shall not doubt the fantasy of the drugs in these lands.

Broadcasting what? I'll add that people have an agenda, and rarely, if ever, is it to be plainly straight about their experience. That's generally not why we talk to others at all. In this context of some form of personal desire sourcing interactions, sharing one's experience just as it is - with no other agenda behind it, rare as it is - is rather useless. The main point is that you can pretend to know something you really don't and not be conscious that this is what you're doing. Contrasted to the exercise above, which essentially asked you to imagine yourself lying deliberately, you can do basically the same thing as an unconscious self-manipulation, not knowing that you're fooling yourself.