UnbornTao

- No water. - But reality!

Okay, maybe. Then again, setting the stories aside, try living with some of those guys for a week and see if they can function, or stay healthy, without some of those basic needs for any length of time.

What? I'm saying that not sleeping (or not drinking water) for just a day or two will start to fuck you up - let alone going weeks without them. Analogously, hardware is hardware: it functions in a particular way because that's what makes it that specific form of hardware in the first place. Its specificity is the whole point. I suspect you might be reacting to what comes off as my assertiveness or arrogance, which could be read as closed-mindedness - but either way, it's fine.

Space is relative!

Get to work already!

@Sugarcoat I'd add that we tend to overeat or snack more for emotional reasons than physiological ones. A common test for so-called genuine hunger is whether you'd actually want an apple or some other piece of fruit. We rarely eat chocolate cookies or anything similar because we're hungry; usually it's because we're bored, stressed, in pain, and so on. This isn't medical advice, by the way - I'm just talking out of my ass. But it sounds like you've got things handled, and the other members here are giving better advice than I am. So that's that.

Does that really matter? Become conscious of the truth for yourself. Short of that, anything you or anyone else has is just a belief, conclusion, or guess - a kind of faith, or at best the notion of an unrealized possibility that is, by definition, unknown - until you get it for yourself.

@Entrepreneur Hello Elon, new account?

I'm not sure I'd go so far as to characterize her or her work that way, but yeah, she's a cult leader.

The difference between what's experienced and what's conceptualized is a useful metric. Of course, we may eventually discover that everything we call 'experience' is itself a mental fabrication, which doesn't help much. But at least it gives us a starting point. Yeah - fantasy. Bullshit. It's just a belief. There is such a thing as fantasy, and it's everywhere in spiritual circles. Most spirituality is fantasy. To entertain some of it, your existence itself may be sort of an illusion. So everything based on the persistence of that self is inevitably fabricated.

Again, too abstract. In your experience, you already likely consider this notion as nonsense - you just don't want to appear assertive or be honest about it, for whatever reason. In other words, it's not grounded in your everyday reality, so to speak. It's the same with notions such as "no-self" and the rest, which are BS for pretty much everyone, because they do in fact experience themselves as the central element of their experience, and that goes way beyond any affectation or adopted notion.

Not at all. Why do you entertain such a notion in the first place, apart from the fact that it's purely hearsay and second-hand, entertaining stories? It's like you claiming you can fly, and me pointing out that you obviously can't. Don't place those two statements on the same footing. Who's the one committed to wishful thinking here, all in the name of "openness"? We don't even know what life is, let alone what happens after death. Any kind of subjective state can be imagined and believed in by humans - but that doesn't make it true. They're essentially just stories.

Go live with one of those guys for a week and see if they can actually function without sleep. Just a week. Again, I acknowledge that in some specific cases, one might go without food for quite some time. I have no problem with that, even though I find it unnecessary and dysfunctional. My concern is more with the claims about sleep and water.

Right. See how long you can go without sleep. Don't actually do that, by the way.