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@clytaemnestra since the US I believe has the highest divorce rate in the world I think that the way they approach relationships may not be the best. @Rocky do you about this internet community called "The Red Pill"? It's basically a forum group of pissed off men who have developed their outlook on women and relationships. It's all about the Blue Pill vs Red Pill mindset for them. Blue Pill men are defined as Beta-male type of guys who suplicate to women and put them on a pedestal. And Red Pill men are defined as Alpha-male guys who go their own way. Me personal I think that the best way to go is probably a mix of those two like a Purple pill with a glow red. A lot of people in the Red Pill community are very jaded and bitter. At the same time it's an interesting perspective and you can take away from it what you want.

This is true. I am European but I live in the US. What you say I experience to be a big difference between dating in Europe and the US. Me being European I hold the same believes as you do what's acceptable and what's not.

It's all connected. Sex, emotions, and spirituality. And don't know if sex is directly linked with spirituality. But emotions are. And emotions are also connected to sex.

The way you describe your situation is exactly the way a lot of women live their life. They will have multiple guys orbiting around them who they will be sort of close with keeping them hoping for more, which ofcourse never happens. Meanwhile claiming that she doesn't understand what the big deal is and that she didnt know what was going on. The only reason it is even considered egotistical is because you are a guy.

What are the Attractive Traits and Non Attractive Traits for both men and women according to the people on this forum? Anything from personality, physical, to achievement traits.

@Elzhi can you be more specific?

A lot of mental problems happen because people live in unnatural environments these days. Basically not being able to get enough physical exercise and not being able to run or fight off fight or flight stress responses triggered by daily passive aggressive behavior from their environment. I have always liked this video. @ZX_man

From my experience those things I listed by far not everyone possesses. And then to have them all present in one person is even more rare. I could come up with a few more examples and some R-rated ones but that's besides the point. Now I don't have this desire to date up. If I want success, status, or money I will go acquire those for myself. But women I think are biologically wired to date up.

Thanks for your reaction. I don't see it being difficult as a reason not to try. Nothing ever happens in the comfort zone. I have heard the same thing in my career; people would not have taken up the profession if they knew how much time and effort goes into it. I have heard people claim the same thing about other careers. But I don't complain. What I am interested in to know more about is that systematic approach you are talking about and those terminologies you use.

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Thanks I will look into it.

Well you know I dont like fat women. I can do a little juicy sometimes. And I like a nice booty as well. I like a woman who is smart. I like women who are as intelligent as me or more intelligent then me. I like a woman who is good with kids. She needs to like kids. A sense of humor is important. She needs to be affectionate. I love to cuddle if she is not into that then thats a real problem. Its not going to work. I dont really care if she makes good money. Thats a nice bonus but I can make my own money. I can date a waitress or a cashier. I dont like women who get cold and resentful either. She needs to be able to kiss and make up quickly. I think thats a real good quality. Sometimes I like a little bitchiness. I like it when mamma is strict on me Ohyeah and a real good quality is when she is generally can have fun doing anything. If that is going for coffee, the museum, the club, the beach, the park, watching a movie at home, hiking, road trips, traveling, etc, etc, etc. Its more fun like that why limit yourself.

Well my man like I say: "A spanking a day keeps the brattiness away" Sometimes they have to go over the knee and you need to show them who daddy is. That will fix that illusion quickly.

I can give it to you more direct. What you say there in that comment; what do you exactly offer here that not literally every other other girl in this world can offer a guy if she has the slightest good intentions towards the relationship? This is exactly the same as sort of comment that your typical 'nice guy' that you find not attractive will make: I am nice, and faithful, and I respect your opinions. Really thats it? Level up right? If that is all a girl says she has to offer then that would really not do it for me. Its a dry cake. Where is my icing? Where is my whipped cream?

@electroBeam @ElenaO This starts to turn into the classic discussion between men and women where both sides think they are right and the other side is wrong. Men and women should understand that we are not the same creatures. Men and women both screen each other really hard but on different criteria. The thing is that no matter how true and correct you think your personal opinion is....the Universe as a whole does care very little for your own personal little opinion. Or mine. The only thing it cares about is what is Truth. And if you go against that you will end up with a reality check every time. So the best thing to do is to look where you yourself are wrong or lacking. And if you really fully understand whats going on yourself. Instead of focusing on the other person.

Yeah well man if a girl goes out drinking with guys she had sex with I don't think I would want to deal with that.

I do agree with you on this. I think there is advancement possible beyond advanced. The least advanced person is the oblivious who is easily manipulated. After that there comes a fase where the person becomes to understand the dynamics and can manipulate the situation. But beyond that there comes a fase where a person has enough understanding of the dynamics to manipulate the situation, but they choose not to do so out of ethical reasons or/and because manipulating their partner does not lead to the most rewarding and fulfilling relationship.

@Baz what I mean is that you should start talking to/dating women by any means necesairy. So you can go speed dating, online dating, cold approaches in coffeeshops, malls, bars, and clubs etc. It doesn't really matter how you do it. As long as you get lots of exposure in a pick-up/dating setting with women. When you are hungry you got to eat. If you go to McDonalds, a diner, or a five star restaurant doesn't really matter right now. And make your intentions known. That's a very important thing right there.

You have done nothing wrong here. Yeah sure you talked to some girls. Well this girl of yours goes out drinking with guys that she had sex with..... Man if you would not show her that you got some options as well she would not take you serious at all. She would consider you 'not on her level'. So to me you have done nothing wrong and everything right. She is no innocent little angle herself. (Which does not necesairly mean she is a bad person.) But man if she goes drinking with these dudes she has had sex with she better quits that if she wants you to stop talking to girls. On the part that her friends tell her to break up....Well let me ask you this: Are these friends single? Yes they are?! Wow!! Big guess!! People will tell you to tell break up. Now sometimes a break up is for the best, but a lot of times it's a piece of non-advice. If that break-up is going to happen it's going to happen anyways. You have not been together that long. 6 months is not long. You are still in that stage where you just know each other and the chemical reactions are over the top. I think over time certain relationship issues tend to ease out because the chemical reactions flatten out more. So people can think more reasonable and clearly. Now you talking to these girls that may not really be the full reason she wants to break up. There may be other factors. Or other things in your behaviour that she would like to see changed. So maybe you should try a different approach. You did show her already you are not to be pushed around and got options yourself. (It's the best thing you did in my opinion.) But now maybe try a more caring approach. You are 6 months in so if you want the relationship to transition, develop, and move forward try to be a little more boyfriend and a little less sex machine. Now another thing is if this breakup goes trough my advice is to start seeing some of those girls you have been talking to.

MAKE YOUR INTENTIONS KNOWN The stuff you really want to do to her And the stuff you really want from her

I do agree that more, and better sex happens in a steady relationship. More practice and experimentation. So there is quility in that. And quantity as well. Then again from one person to another person the baseline quility of the sex will vary. Some people are better at sex then other people. Or they may be more suited to your personal preferences. So there is potential for quility in that as well. How would a person that has had very few sexual partners be able to judge if the sex is good or bad compared to having sex with some other partner? It may very well be the best sex possible. It also could be really not that great. When a person has not had sex with many people it's hard to judge the quility of the sex. The only thing to rate there is if that person actually enjoys the sex with the partner they are with as it is. (Which is valuable in itself. So if two highschool sweethearts enjoy their sexlife I say stick to it.) Another angle is that when one has had sex with many different people then that person can have picked up different styles and techniques from different people. In that way more variety can lead to more inspiration and variety and therefore a higher quality of sex. Now back to the 'bad bitch'. Let's say you have a 'bad bitch' who has been sexually active for 10 years. She can for instance have had two relationships of 3 years. She will have had experienced that deeper level relationship sex in which she got to perfect her sexual technique and experiment. And then she had another 4 years during which she had many short flings and one night stands. So she has had experienced many different men and situations. She has true undisputed sexual experience accross the board. That makes that 'bad bitch' very sexually experienced. Now she probably also has a high sex drive and a freaky side. Sex with her is going to be good. (Given she is the type of girl you are attracted to). Now does a man want a relationship with a woman like that? Well that depends.

Good luck with that.

@ajasatya I think that's a convenient assumption that fits your agenda.

At what age? Because in your late twenties and thirties that doesn't seem to hold truth anymore.

@Safari Celeste so why don't you go work that calm job? Yeah I know the excitement..... But it seems like the biggest step to self improvement you can possibly make in your life. And very achievable.