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As far as I can remember I've been quite adept at most things that I learn with regards to the arts whether it's drawing, painting or making music. I also find that my mind is overrun with ideas all the time for different things. One day/week it's one thing but then I think of something else (Like idea for an artwork or business or film or song). Funny thing is, nothing trumps the other. I think I just generally have a love or passion for creativity and ideas or just to be creative in some capacity. The question I have is do you think it's wiser to pick one thing and grind it out and see some "success" before beginning something else? Or would making time for all these pursuits with a tight schedule and routine be more effective? Anybody else have this problem? How much does spreading yourself out effect mastery in any one field?

@Space Right?? It can be very frustrating because it feels like trying to do so much and you're running around getting nothing done sometimes. But I hear you, I guess it's like a sort of focusing and defocusing or zooming in and out like @Nahm put it. Btw are there any books or something to that effect that you've used that have helped?

So after watching Leo's recent video where he talks about going deeper and deeper into an "infinite headed hydra" and finding piles and piles of "corpses" and "beings" I was instantly reminded of the movie Interstellar. I don't think there's a movie that visualized higher dimensions, potentiality and infinity better than this one. The way he falls into this thing seems, when I picture it, close to what I think Leo's describing. And Here Are some extras on what went into conceptualizing and building that entire set. So MUCH respect for Nolan for this.

@Leo Gura Haha "falling iff ina chill manner" Alright will do. Thanks, man

I've been meditating daily for just about a year now and for the past for months I've been experiencing quiet moments. Like everything would be clear and I'd be super present. Thoughts don't cease but when they come up they're so obvious and they're not worrisome, kinda like a kid trying to scare you by jumping out at you from behind a wall except you totally expect it. It feels really good not "absolute" anything but just super super super quiet . If this all enlightenment was I'd take it LOL. But every time I get this kind of clarity the next couple days ego starts to come back stronger and goes "well let's start giving zero fucks about whatever that was" and then I feel as though i'm getting dragged into the dungeons of the unconsciousness and I don't feel like meditating and I start eating junk randomly. And when I do meditate I can't finish because I feel SUPER itchy and fidgety for some reason, but then it dies down after couple days and I'm back to basic cable reality. It happens on and off every week or so. Can anyone who's going through this explain what's happening or throw in some insight on how to go beyond this?

@Leo Gura @Shanmugam @Joel3102 This is where a lot of confusion arises. How do I move beyond that? Should I try to override the entire thing by brute forcing it or remain aware throughout whilst the ego does it's thing? Cause sometimes it can feel as though I'm resigning the same control that brought me to a great place, so to speak. I've attempted to "just remain aware" as everything goes on but the longer I do this the more it feels I get dragged back then I become afraid of entering into a rabbit hole I can't escape from, In terms of sloppy diet, laziness and meditation so I slam the brakes. Then ego takes centre stage here and assumes control as if to prove that only IT has the power to change my habits thus putting me back to where I started trying to be aware of ego in the normal state. If that makes sense.

I'm a Lauryn hill fan and i thought this song was good because it amps me up haha. It's as though she's talking to her ego and the greater social ego that controls society. I Get Out Lauryn Hill I get out, I'll get out of all your boxes I get out, you can't hold me in these chains I'll get out Father free me from this bondage Knowin' my condition Is the reason I must change Your stinkin' resolution Is no type of solution Preventin' me from freedom Maintainin' your pollution I won't support your lie no more I won't even try no more If I have to die, oh Lord That's how I choose to live I won't be compromised no more I can't be victimised no more I just don't sympathize no more 'cause now I understand You just want to use me You say "love" then abuse me You never thought you'd loose me But how quickly we forget That nothin' is for certain You thought I'd stay here hurtin' Your guilt trip's just not workin' Repressin' me to death 'cause now I'm choosin' life, yo I'll take the sacrifice, yo If everything must go, then go That's how I choose to live Heh... hehehehehe... Ok, we gettin' there At least I had a chunk Aight ok, it's how I choose to live Hehehe, awww No more compromises I see past your diguises Blindin' through mind control Stealin' my eternal soul Appealin' through material To keep me as your slave But I get out Oh, I get out of all your boxes I'll get out Oh, you can't hold me in these chains I get out Oh, I want out of social bondage Knowin' my condition Oh, is the reason I must change See what you see is what you get Oh, and you ain't seen nothin' yet Oh, I don't care if you're upset I could care less if you're upset See it don't change the truth And your hurt feeling's no excuse To keep me in this box Psychological locks Repressin' true expression Cementin' this repression Promotin' mass deception So that no one can be healed I don't respect your system I won't protect your system When you talk I don't listen Oh, let my Father's will be done And just get out Oh, just get out of all these bondage Just get out Oh, you can't hold me in chains Just get out All these traditions killin' freedom Knowin' my condition Is the reason I must change I've just accepted what you said Keepin' me among the dead The only way to know Is to walk then learn and grow But faith is not your speed Oh, you've had everyone believed That you're the sole authority Just follow the majority Afraid to face reality The system is a joke Oh, you'd be smart to save your soul Oh, when escape is mind control You spent your life in sacrifice To a system for the dead Oh, are you sure... Where is the passion in this living Are you sure it's God you servin' Obligated to a system Getting less then you're deserving Who made up these schools, I say Who made up these rules, I say Animal conditioning Oh, just to keep us as a slave Oh, just get out Of this social purgatory Just get out All these traditions are alive Just get out Superstition killing freedom Knowin' my condition Is the reason I must die, ahh Just get out Just get out Just get out Let's get out Let's get out Knowin' my condition Is the reason I must die Just get out

@Shin UHm...How?

@electroBeam You want to simultaneously become a pick up god and maintain a relationship. The walk of shame and the picket fence ey Lol. I think you should go try dating other women and assess how you feel .If you want the relationship it would probably not feel right to go on dating other women. If you want to date other women then the relationship isn't going to feel right. Your goal is be a pickup god and attract any girl you want then go date other women. The girl you like is nice, yeah but maybe she's got in the way of your goal because of the feelings you now have for her. Are those feelings for her worth more to you than your goal? And Which would you rather give up/put on hold? Personally I'm not clear to women what I want so I find myself in situations where I've compromised too much or settled for less than what I wanted. I'm still stuck in nice guy mode and I hate hurting women's feelings (fear). But this backfires because it tends work out for the worst anyway because my not being clear manifests itself as dissatisfaction and ultimately ruin. This is the number one reason my virginity remains intact. .

If you can go within you can go without

I remember reading about the anechoic chamber a while back and I thought it must be interesting to go inside. It's called the most silent room in the world because it drowns out 99% of external noise leaving you with only the sound of your organs moving around to listen to. Thought it was interesting given our relationship to sound and silence. "Absolute silence is filled by the sound of your own body. You can hear your breathing, your heart beating, you can hear the blood in your veins. You can hear your pulse, you can hear your bones rub against each other, you can hear your skin sliding over your muscles. You can hear tendons creak, organs churning . . . and that’s usually about the point where people start hearing things that aren’t really there." http://knowledgenuts.com/2014/06/02/true-silence-will-drive-you-mad/ They say it ends up driving you mad but what I'm wondering is if the madness is created by our tendency to fear silence and fight against it. Also the whole tendon cracking bone rubbing noises we're unfamiliar with so one's bound to get disoriented at first . Sounds trippy Lol. I'm curious about whether the madness is limited to people who aren't ready for what their minds are about to throw on them or are even the best of meditators screwed here? And what would happen if you just go with the silence and let it be or better yet go into meditation My guess is that if you've been meditating for years it would give you new insights much like a psychedelic would. So would you try it? These rooms are mostly privatized but if you're lucky enough to live in the city where they're available around the world you're allowed to rent them out. This is the one Minneapolis.

Right with you there. Finding people who are as passionate about the same things you are is really hard because not everyone might share your beliefs or motivations starting from the genre to the content and everything in between. This leads to disagreements and whatnot. That's why band members in any band generally tend to shift around and change. Egos butt heads a bunch too, Lol. Decide what it is you want from the "band" structure. Is your passion for music based on your wanting to share ideas and formulate them in a group or are you comfortable enough in your ability to pursue your own sound by yourself? You might find you don't necessarily need a full band to create the music. I've also had trouble getting people to rally behind a band but at this point my outlook is "I'll be my own band". You could teach yourself to play all the instruments and record yourself and then for live performing you could buy a loop station and perform that way. Or learn how to use software like logic, Ableton or Garage band and simulate some instruments and then look for people who strictly want to perform online. If nobody wants to or is passionate about working with you right you have to go at it alone. Unfortunately most people will only want to join you once they see something happening. Just keep doing you! Kevin Parker the producer of Tame Impala does the production himself but you'd think otherwise. "The truth, however, is that this five-piece are just a front, the touring cover for a solo project orchestrated from Parker's bedroom. A self-proclaimed loner, he composes and records every layer of sound on his songs before calling on his mates – who are all in other Perth bands – to play out their respective parts. They're there to beef up the live shows, and to stop Parker from getting locked in his own head."

I chose songs from Tame Impala's latest album Currents. If you don't listen to them they're a Pychedelic rock band from Australia. I think it's not always noticeable because its a pop sound but I think their music is full of spiritual ideas. I began the spiritual path because I pretty much the loner depressed type and I was tired of it. I didn't pursue self discovery because of them but I will say that when I play their songs it helps me fall in love with the journey if I'm ever feeling doubtful or lazy or something like that. What I enjoy most about them is their subtlety. I mean, it's pop and that's not usually touted as the genre to make you conscious but in a way i think it should be though right? And I know this thread is supposed to be about songs specifically on spirituality but I couldn't help myself and i think with these songs, if you're listening closely,you'll get it or find the spiritual nuggets in them. Also, If you can't tell already,Im a massive fan Lol Tame Impala - The Moment https://genius.com/Tame-impala-the-moment-lyrics In the end, it's stronger than I know how to be And I can't just spend my whole lifetime wondering I fell in love with the sound of my heels on the wooden floor I don't want our footsteps to be silent anymore [Chorus 1] I want them to be in the moment Storm clouds are closing [Verse 2] In the end it’s coming, there’s nothing left to do But I'm still not certain just how I'm gonna feel [Chorus 2] I'll only know in the moment And anticipation is growing [Bridge] It's getting closer Oh, it's getting closer It's getting closer (I'm not ready) Oh, it's getting closer (I need a little more time) [Outro] It's getting closer (Closer every day) It's getting closer (Don't cry we'll be okay) It's getting closer (Closer, call of the dam) It's getting closer (Hold on, and breathe if you can) It's getting closer (Closer, I'm not ready yet) Oh, it's getting closer (I'm not ready yet) It's getting closer (I need a little more time) It's getting closer (I'm not ready yet) It's getting closer (I need a little more time) It's getting closer, oh It's getting closer Always gets me in a good mood Tame Impala - Let It Happen https://genius.com/Tame-impala-let-it-happen-lyrics It's always around me, all this noise But not nearly as loud as the voice saying "Let it happen, let it happen (It's gonna feel so good) Just let it happen, let it happen" All this running around Trying to cover my shadow A notion growing inside Now all the others seem shallow All this running around Bearing down on my shoulders I can hear an alarm It must be morning I heard about a whirlwind that's coming 'round It's gonna carry off all that isn't bound And when it happens, when it happens (I won't be holding on) So let it happen, let it happen It's gonna feel so good It's gonna feel so good It's always around me, all this noise But not nearly as loud as the voice saying "Let it happen, let it happen (It's gonna feel so good) Just let it happen, let it happen" It's gonna feel so good All this running around I can't fight it much longer Something's trying to get out And it's never been closer If my takeoff fails Make up some other story But if I never come back Tell my mother I'm sorry [Bridge] (Gibberish) Baby, now I'm ready, moving on Oh but maybe I was ready all along Oh I'm ready for the moment and the sound Oh but maybe I was ready all along Baby, now I'm ready, moving on Oh but maybe I was ready all along Oh I'm ready for the moment and the sound Oh but maybe I was ready all along Tame Impala - Nangs https://genius.com/Tame-impala-nangs-lyrics But is there something more than that? But is there something more than that? But is there something more than that? But is there something more than that? But is there something more than that? But is there something more than that? But is there something more than that? But is there something more than that? But is there something more than that? But is there something more than that? But is there something more than that? But is there something more than that? But is there something more than that? But is there something more than that? This one i thought was interesting because it's like subtle reminder that you're holding onto a thought stream or an emotion or a realisation? I could be reaching. But hopefully the music does for you what it does for me which inspires the journey deeper into self discovery Happy listening

@Cabot Hilarious!

So I have a couple questions. If its been asked before then my bad. Spiritual teachers tend to say two similar but different things when it comes to present moment awareness. One teacher will say you should "watch the thinker" or "watch the watcher". Others say you should "Be the watching" or just "rest as awareness". In practice it doesn't feel like the same thing . My question is do these practices lead to the same outcome? Should more focus be placed on the watching of thoughts or to the resting as awareness?

Hey, it is what it is Lol

Well that clears a lot up, actually because watching watcher felt like some kind of effort on my part which would be followed by a "not watching" So am I correct in saying resting as awareness is not a participating in a doing but just a happening?