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You could try a sublingual B12 drops, 1000 mcg for a month then test again (withdraw the supplement 48 hrs before the test) for better absorption, and hold it under the tongue for a minute - that method of administration is similar to intravenous application In terms of testing, consider getting a tissue B12 assessment - look up a private test called "Methylmalonic Acid", you want your results of MMA to be as low as possible. It will be a bit more expensive than serum B12 and unlikely to be done by doctor so you need to go private.

Daily Mail? - the publishers whose sole desire is to push people's emotional buttons. The crap they release here in UK on daily basis is something stunning. Read the whole paper then see if your statements still holds https://www.fao.org/3/cc3912en/cc3912en.pdf Btw noticed what they did here: Evidence suggests that in adults, yoghurt and milk consumption reduces the risk of all-cause death, high blood pressure, stroke, type 2 diabetes, colorectal and breast cancer and osteoporosis, the report states - the osteoporosis link is inconclusive, adults and older adults consuming highest amount of milk are not the most protected from osteoporosis, that line of evidence is all over the place. There is also a threshold effect with dairy where it doesn't cross 35g of saturated fat per day after which risk margins increase. Leading cardiologists rank the 10 most popular diets in terms of heart health (look away now, vegans!) - "leading cardiologist" - expert reviews lie at the bottom of the hierarchy of evidence, who cares what they say when what they say contradicts the direction of the evidence. In addition, the cardiologist is a clinician, not a researcher and while some MDs go between academia & practice, professionally most stick to one or the other - or is that not so @undeather? The report also found there was relatively solid evidence that egg consumption does not increase the risk of stroke or heart disease. - this part is true, but conveniently they leave out breast cancer risk or the 47% rise in ovarian cancer risk for each 5 egg set consumed per week. Meanwhile, milk and dairy consumption during pregnancy promotes a healthy birth weight of the baby, evidence shows - and promotes prostate cancer risk in men past 50 as well as breast cancer in women past 50, especially whole milk products. And beef consumption was found to improve cognitive outcomes and protect against iron deficiency - which can cause dizziness, fatigue, headaches, an irregular heartbeat and pale skin. The report states that eating 72g of beef each day is safe. Notice how they omit the fact that red meat is associated with an increased risk of bowel cancer and coronary heart disease and nitpick that it "improves cognitive outcome"...what the heck Daily Mail, What about processed meat? A lot of people will misunderstand the 72 gram recommendation as freedom to eat processed beef and bacon. What about high fat vs low-fat dairy? What about animal fats used for frying? What about butter? They basically left out all the negative aspects of animal-based diets and nitpicked whatever evidence there was to be found in their favour. I don't know who wrote this piece of cherry-picked garbage but if they do this, they should have gone all the way, this is a very one-sided review. They did not mention any of the benefits of plant-heavy diets, which there are many. You can do better @StarStruck but I understand your desire to rock the boat with your posts

this might be a geographically biased report but I've had the pleasure to speak to about 5 Yogis in different temples across Norther and Southern Thailand and Vietnam last October and November. They ate one a day and probably similar to what you described. What I saw was - tooth loss, extreme signs of ageing, joint problems (limping and needing a cane), bad mouth odour, and extremely poor level of arm, shoulder and chest muscle development. Most likely there was also osteopenia and even full blown osteoporosis , that wouldn't surprise me. They looked weathered, tired and weak. They were highly intelligent people, no doubt about that, but their bodies looked starved and malnourished to a point of collapse. I don't know where the people you described live but they don't seem to be found in South-East Asia which is one of the largest regions in the world where you will find real Budhist monks & yogis living of raw foods, eating once a day. Like, there are monks there who live alone, meditate in caves (that have living snakes) eat fruit and raw diets and they look half-dead and starved. I would assume Chinese or Indian monks to look very similar but I have no direct experience with speaking to those. Dunno man, something's wrong with that line of reasoning. Once you travel the world a bit, a lot of these internet arguments start dying out. If you are in a privileged position in life (living in a wealthy country/wealthy background) you may be missing that.

are you relying mostly on legumes for protein? Just curious as in total that would get you only about 8-12 grams from a 100g cooked (a little bit more from 100g raw). possibly, never looked into that literature but I'd have no problem believing that That would be a bestseller wouldn't it "a pill to keep the farts away" no I meant oats compared to other wholegrains

Buy a gym pass and start training solo?

They are unlikely to cause more bloating than legumes if you cook them properly, I've never experienced bloating from something like spelt or barley. On the bloating side, the way I see it is that it gradually improves, it's a stage of adaptation. I don't think a benign bloating is harmful, in fact based on some preliminary work done by the Sonnenburg Lab, different colonic bacteria expell different gases which then other species can take in for nourishment, some of it we fart out, some of it stays in and enriches the environment......so maybe a little bit of bloating is a small "fee" we pay for the fact that or protection against things like colorectal cancer goes through the roof. Considering it is a number one cancer in the world, that is a trade off I am happy to make anytime. Not to mention the fact that you are flooding your body with so many SCFAs from the fibre metabolism by your microbiome - although we don't understand the full implication of SCFAs yet, it is likely to be highly beneficial especially where immune system, heart and brain are concerned, personally I also think autoimmunity, blood-brain barrier and cognitive performance are highly implicated there.and people who struggle with those inb some shape or form need to fix their gut before they fix the end point...anyways that's a bit of geeky speculation you didn't ask for . Up to you of course, this was merely a suggestion for you guys who want to try something different. Oats are likely to be as beneficial

I'm not which is why it messed me up so bad It was one of those "you just have to mate" moments that I came to regret later can't help you there mate but I'm sure there are folks around here who might be able to

yeah, that's a possibility. I've definitely experienced something similar after a few days of sleep deprivation, a bad diet and drinking alcohol for a few days in a row (during my mate's stag party in Greece) - I came to a tipping point and then all it took was a shot of espresso and I got a full blown panic attack that lasted for 2 days and the fallout of which lasted another 2 weeks. So it might mean there is already too much underlining tension in body / environment and it takes very little for the cup of "emotional tolerance" to overflow. I also think that some people are more resilient again mental distress than others. The earlier are people who need to always be careful with how much they put on their plate (emotionally speaking) and need to frequently lay low to recover. The other group are folks who can devastate their body endlessly with smoking, alcohol, steroids, meat heavy diets burning the candle from both ends while being at the peak of their strength and vigour until one day they get a sudden stroke and die before the ambulance comes in in their mid 50s. I have a close mate who is going that way and I fear for his family 15 yrs from now.

I think you're both right to a degree but it might just be more complicated than A or B. Certain mental health issues have indeed been associated with B-deficiency and giving people B-complex might help (if that was the causative factor) although the data is inconclusive as you may see. Forest Plots are borderline statistically significant and confidence intervals remain fairly wide which tells you there is more to it (as it always is) On the other hand, some people do indeed find them energising. B-vitamins are a part of the glycolysis & Kreb Cycle that help your body produce ATP (energy currency) so technically if you were long-term deficient and suddenly you get an influx of B-s in a way you are getting "back on the baseline" but for anyone long term deprived this may come across as "highly stimulating" because they've just been deficient for so long they forgot what it feels like to have energy (this is actually pretty common among guys, I've seen a fair share of that in my practice) In addition, B vitamins are cofactors in all sorts of metabolic processes including things like neurotransmitters and even certain hormones so in a way, you might just be getting back to "feeling normal". And finally, B vitamins are notoriously difficult to measure because they do not hang around for too long (with exception of B12) and so most standardised blood tests are inaccurate and specific essays such as EGOT, MMA or Red Blood Cell Folate need to be acquired for an adequate tissue representation. As an example, a person who just took B12 supplement would show "normal" on Serum B12 but would show high on Methylmalonic Acid test indicating that in reality their tissue levels are depleted but the blood test only saw the circulating supplement so we can't really tell if we are looking at the right thing to begin with From experience with client work, on their own, they rarely do much if not part of a larger dietary/lifestyle modification and at that point we no longer know what made the difference anymore (the major challenge with epidemiology) But then who knows, there is still much we don't understand

@Jannes when I use them for breakfast it is the same recipe as when making oatmeal (just takes longer to cook) something like the breakfast recipes in this videl I made ages ago. When using as a main, then it depends - but yet spices are usually added depending on what meal is it (Mexican, Indian, Lebanese etc..) think of them as a rice alternative and use them as such. They change the taste slightly but considering these things have about 10-15 times as much fibre as white rice, I don't mind.

@integral I order these online in bulk and then mix and match in a jar. I usually do Barley Buckwheat Spelt (for some reason it is more expensive than all the other ones) Wheat Grain Sometimes amaranth or quinoa If you can order these in bulk, that's gonna be cheaper. I do 2 kilos of each about every 4-6 months Then i just throw in a cup in boiling water and once ready top up with whatever I have available.

Nice! I love oat waffles with dark chocolate and berries Try whole spelt porridge with some berries and nuts - guaranteed to double that energy peak ? throw an egg in for a good measure

About 21 - 23 once the epiphyseal plats calcify fully, then your height is set for life . After that, any growth you get is tissue density only (muscle, fat, bone-to a small degree) Sometimes if people have deformities of spine like lordosis and can have them corrected, they may get a few cm back but not sure how common that is and probably irrelevant to healthy people. You get growth hormone spikes throughout your whole lifetime, but its impact diminishes over a time.

Give it a try, go raw for 3 months then come back to use and make a long-educated post about it. Otherwise, these sorts of absolute statements are hollow and meaningless. If we are going to be ignoring the current level of evidence (which disagrees with you) then the only thing left is direct experience. As they say, "direct experience is the king". Would love to see the results of that journey. Heck....document it and then make YouTube video.

agreed with this, sounds like a half-arsed vegan diet @integral bro I don't think you tried hard enough. I am no longer vegan but when I was for 4 years, the first few months until I figured out how to do it properly I was like Walking Dead, then my energy came back and afterwards everything was as it was previously, digestive regularity was definitely better.

Did you test this yourself or the doctor? Have you fasted for 12 hours before the test? You need re-testing and also need to get your long-term blood sugar control testing (HbA1C & HOMA-IR) How are your blood lipids? (cholesterol, triglycerides etc). What is your BMI? Basically go back to a doctor and ask for retesting. No doctor in the world would just leave this without testing further in a 27 year old persom. Could there have been some sample contamination? When I was a kid, my mom had me pee in a jar that previously had honey in it and it was poorly washed and once the doctor tested she called my mom saying I have the most extreme diabetes she has ever seen. Ofcourse the dissolved honey in the sample did not help

sorry, I meant half-life Yes, I'm slowly beginning to realise this. if a patient comes to you with elevated LDL -C and elevated non-HDL, cholesterol, how do you tell if they would benefit from ApoB testing as well? Age? Ethnicity? Other risk factors? (alcohol, smoking) does LP(a) change over lifetime or is it moslty set like APoE4, if you have it, you have higher odds of ending up really fucked if you are not careful.

Sounds like a pretty messed up situation. I wouldn't do it, if it doesn't work out, you won't hear the end of it. If it does work out, he will dangle it in front of your eyes each time he needs a favour from you. Tbh I'd probably figure out how to pay the education myself. Maybe get a job, earn some money and try again in couple years. There is actually higher value in getting your degree once you are older and more experienced in life, in general. Go get some experience and make some money. Some companies may even contribute to your tuition, there is lots of different benefits out there they offer these days. Oh and, separate yourself form your dad as much as you can. Sounds like he has pretty screwed up perception of money, you don't want to be part of that EDIT: oh wait, you already finished the school and now he wants it back?

Good to know, I was not aware of the cost barrier. What is the pharmacodynamic life of a single shot before you need another one? Also regarding Lp(a) - where does it stand among full lipid panel and ApoB in terms of its relevance for CVD risk? I understand that where evidence goes we have Total Cholesterol, LDL C and HDL-C at the top, ApoB probably one step lower and Lp(a) kinda somewhere underneath not being as significant but still interesting. Or is that not so? I have not looked into this myself so I'm a bit in the dark on that one

Have your ApoB measured. It is more important than the entire lipid panel and most likely the most relevant marker. The test is relatively cheap in US If it shows too high and you cannot change the diet for now, it might be a good idea to take an occasional injection of PCSK-9 inhibitor to protect your vascular system from atherogenesis while you fix your gut. Alternatively, taking a low-grade statin would keep those levels low as well. It is not ideal, but it is the lesser evil where arterial plaque build-up is concerned. Just a friendly share

Wouldn't want to be in the same room with you and your 21 cups of bean-associated digestion You ca certainly survive on this but sounds a bit dull, like a prison diet in Mexico

@FourCrossedWands thanks. 40.4 nmol/L isn't extremely low. I wouldn't even call it deficient, but maybe "suboptimal" is the right word. If you can get yourself higher, that would probably be useful. You are unlikely to see any acute difference (e.g. better brain performance) but your long term health is going to receive an extra buff. Based on the longitudinal data for male cardiovascular and cancer mortality being in the 80s up to lower 90s is the most protective. Going over the 90s bends the curve upwards for some reason and extremely high levels are actually associated with harm. Work with your doc to get a correct supplemental routine and make the most of any sun you can get.... of course pay attention to not getting burned

What are the units of measure?

Hard to tell, depends on the entire sourcing infrastructure. Most protein bars are a junk food with extra whey. You could make your own from a mix of dried fruit, raw peanuts, cocoa and 3rd party tested protein powder like Vivo Life. All you need is a food processor and a bit of trial & error. Bake or no bakes. You could make up to 20-30 for the price of 2 in a shop if you source your ingredients in bulk