Salvijus

"Among the Native Americans, there are many masters who are well accomplished in matters of the occult. They're very sensitive people, who had a different sense of life together. In a way, the occult dimensions of yoga were very alive in these traditions. Maybe they do not really have a science like we have. It's a much segregated science; it is just one aspect of the whole science. Changing bodies and things like this are quite common in their culture. There are many instances where people have exchanged their bodies and lived on, and again changed back whenever they needed to. This is mostly done with the use of certain herbs which are kept as great secrets; some of them can be highly intoxicating. Much research has been done on this." ~Sadhguru from the book of" Mystic's Musings"

There's a video of sadhguru talking about 7 layers of a human on sadhguru exclusive app. When he talks about 5th layer Atman, he talks about the soul, he's just using hindu terminology. Then goes paramatman. And then goes nirvana. Beyond the soul even. The same thing that buddha was talking about. But he doesn't deny the existence of the soul.

Reminds me of scientists when they say chi is just "metabolism". There can't possibly be any such thing as "mystical chi"

Very strong arguments indeed.

I have tons of experiences with disembodied beings actually. I don't know if that counts to you. And I suspect you will go full solipsism at some point. A card that wins every argument

I think a soul has a seperate energy body with a unique bank of knowledge, abilities and memories. All that knowledge, abilities and bank of memory creates a seeming personality thereafter. Whereas a personality alone is nothing basicly. It's like a shadow basicly. I suspect the soul can have many personalities/shadows but personality cannot have a sentience by itself.

Tibetan buddhism won't shut up talking about the disembodied beings, how to work with them, how to use them, the book of bardo, the book of death is all about how to transition the soul from one stage to another. Mmm... I don't trust psychedelics. And some psychonouts actually encounter disembodied beings. Shamans for example won't shut up about their encounters with spirits and such.

Except that there are countless reports of enlightened masters and mystics saying otherwise.

Fair enough. Multiple personality situation is one possible explanation here. But at the very least the video should make one question the existance of a soul as a real thing. The internet is full of such videos proving paranormal phenomena like this nowadays. Maybe the mystics were telling the truth when they were speaking about such things as reincarnation, souls, angelic/demonic possessions, speaking to the dead etc. If that video was not convincing enough that souls exists, maybe this will do. A well documented, medically studied case of a random dude who claimed to have another soul living inside of him, and that soul was performing surgeries on people even tho the first guy had no medical background. And was able to say things that he had no knowledge about. Also his medical methods were nothing short of a supernatural.

I would have to rewatch to answer that question in fairness. From what I can remember they say then went to multiple psychotherapy doctors to see if it's some kind of mental disorder but had to rule out that in the end. They speak about that they don't lose conciousness when the other person takes over, how they abide in some weird out of body space sort of. How one person can control one arm and another can control another arm. And how they in the beginning stages were fighting over the control of the body and experience huge pain in the nervous system as a result of that. And were basicly forced to live in harmony. How they tried to astral project both out of the body. Had succeess. But were not ready for that. For some reason it was a scary experience for them. They seem to have different talents. Like the girl is not good at IT and math. So the other guy does all that work. Mmm... If I rewatched the video I could probably mention more.

That would be a very lazy assessment of the case found in that video.

Interesting.

I would say anyone who was to watch that video would have their eyes opened so much that they would have to rethink everything they think they knew about themselves and about existence. For me that's a good thing. Btw. I feel like you're very sensitive around this topic. Is this matter personal to you?

That video is the only thing in this world that can end all the confusion around this subject. It has all the answers about what is gender and what is a soul.

Human is made of many layers. Psychology and physical body are the last layers of a human. Prior to that there are energetic layers. It is the energy body that determines how the body will be shaped, if it's going to be a penis or vigina costume. And the psychology/dominat personality traits will get shaped by the energy body aswell. This is where you have to look to determine if something is a female or a male. Male and female are existencial phenomena. Not a human invention. According to Ayurveda, every leaf on the tree is either a male or a female. It's in the energetics of a particular object that you can know what it is.

You missed the point of my post.

You are all wrong. It's not about the body or the psychology. It's about the your etheric self that determines your gender. This video of two souls in one body (one male and one female) is the perfect example of what is gender.

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THANK YOU! This is exactly what I am talking about, agree with this take on "solopsism" This is what classic solipsism looks like. Teachers like Bashar, Rupert Spira and many others are pointing to this realization. Other forms of solipsism are never talked about except by heavy psychedelic users. What other proof is needed to see that this insight is a product of slowly losing touch with reality.

Not only other people have conciousness. But animals, plant kingdom, mineral kingdom, atoms have consciousness and sentience.

If solipsism was real, love would be impossible. Love means you see yourself (conciousness) in others. Therein is the proof that what is in you is also in others.

Because it's penetrating through slowly.

Your body is made to house conciousness. Every other body is made the same way like yours. Therein is the proof that solipsism is only half the truth.

If blue was the only color, nobody would know what blue is. Knowledge of blue exists only in contrast to what is not blue. In order for God to know himself, God needs a create other, and through other he can experience himself to ever greater degrees. The bigger the number of souls God creates through which he can experience himself, the greater the joy. Therein is the proof that solipsism is only half the truth.

Without two love would not exist, even if those two are actually one. Therein is the proof that solipsism is only half the truth.