Salvijus

Control doesn't imply seperation if what you're controlling is yourself. One Self is dancing to its own tune. The tune dictates the course of action, the tune is one with the Source, the tune is love. @Adrian colby

Creation is an extention of the Creator. There is still oneness. Only a Creator can be responsible for extending himself into multiple forms of creation. Everything is an extention of the Source. It's just One Self changing forms. And One Self is responsible for all the changes.

New argument: The Source is the source of everything. That's why it's called the Source. Who else is responsible for everything if not the Source? The Source is responsible for everything.

But if you look closely, movement is not happening accidentally or randomly. Movement happens according to the Law. The Law of God rules everything. This Law is inherent in the Source and is one with the Source. The Source is then responsible for all creation.

If the source has no will and the first movement happened indipendant of the source, then it implies it has an indipendant existence, as if it has it's own agency and will. It creates duality. Or maybe the source has an inherent will to it. And there is no seperation between the source and its will. I just think the second option makes more sense.

Aww. I know puppies are cute but it could also mean you have some pent up stuff that wants to be released.

So you say mind is the first movement. So what caused the first movement to happen if the source has no will? What willed the first movement to happen then?

I'll just repeat this. "Things don't appear out of nothing. If something moved, then it moved by inspiration of something prior. If you go down like that you'll end up at the bottom of all inspiration - The Source itself. And there is nothing prior to that. And that Source has a will. And that will is love. "

Things don't appear out of nothing. If something moved, then it moved by inspiration of something prior. If you go down like that you'll end up at the bottom of all inspiration - The Source itself. And there is nothing prior to that. And that Source has a will. And that will is love.

If nothing willed life into existence, then how did it came about?

Love has a will. Everything is a consequence of love's will. Universe exists because love wills it into existence. There is a supreme will behind everything. The will of god.

That's deep

If everything comes from love, then love is in control of everything.

There really are only two options in life: ascension or declension (and maybe stagnation also) . Declension sucks. Ascension feels nice. The choice becomes very simple.

The Law is in control. "In the beginning was the Law, and the Law was with God, and the Law was God."

For me it's just and endless diving into glory. There's nothing else worth doing anyways. Just enjoy the ride.

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Masculine holds the space, feminine dances inside of it. If you identify with the emptiness, you experience primordial peace. If you identify with the feminine, you experience an ecstatic dance of creation. Life is both. No idea if that answers the question.

It's actually true that the state of emptiness can feel really dry, lifeless and passionless. That's why I hesitate to completely dismiss your case, haha. If we assume that's indeed what you're going through, then the only solution would be to activate the feminine side of enlightenment, the heart center, the creative energy that fills you with passion for life. Like the opposite of masculine immobile Zen emptiness. On the contrary, the heart energy is very dynamic. When you have both, you become super enlightened. Maybe that's you.

Idk what to make of it. There is more than one way to interpret that experience. So you're hoping a full dissolution will solve this? What if a full dissolution is even worse than that? Lol

I believe this part. But the less dense you become, the more alive and vibrant you should become. That's the part where I have a problem with your explanation. No, I've said something else, haha.

They are taking about self realization mostly. You can realize yourself beyond the ego without dissolving the ego. Dissolving the ego is a longer process. I don’t know. I'm trying to see how that could be true but I struggle to see it. The signs are not there. There are other explanations that fit your description much more as far as I can tell.

That's almost unachievable goal. Monks spend their entire life in monestary to attain to it and don't get there. It takes multiple lifetimes to get there. Ekchart is open about his pain body not being fully dissolved also. They all are. Even if you were 1% close to infinity, you'd be levitating basicly with so much energy.

Almost incomplete self dissolution looks like ekchart tolle, rupert spira, mooji etc. None of them have problems that you describe. Ego dissolution invigorates the cells in the body, your body would be all vibrating with energy basicly. It doesn't feel suppressing or numb or zombie like. In my estimate it's either a lost soul phenomena or something is attached to you and is draining your energy/suppressing you. If it's the latter, then I could probably deal with that myself, it's a common reality for me.

A lost soul phenomena. https://entheonation.com/blog/shamanic-soul-retrieval/