Salvijus

There is only one show but because you're not in control of that show, it means you're just a small manifestation inside that show rather than a sole maker of it.

I don’t need to prove a finite self. I need to prove that an infinite self has individuated itself like a hand with fingers. Each finger being a manifestation of God's hand that performs a certain will of god. Once you realize a single finger is not in charge of everything but all fingers of God combined together are in charge of everything. That places you in a position of a single manifestation of God rather than the center of the show. That debunks solipsisms.

It's not a leap of faith, it's a natural conclusion. Once you realize things are behaving indipendantly from your will, that proves you're not the maker of the show. If you were the maker of the show, you could control reality like a lucid dream but x infinity times more crazier than that. Now you can only conclude to be a small manifestation of God's will only, and that too proves there must be other parts out there. Again a counter argument against solipsism.

I saw this in another thread. This is not true. The individuated part of conciousness that you are right now was never in full control of creation. So when that part dissolves in infinite, the rest of creation continues.

I'm real also. Even tho saying that doesn't necessarily prove anything, I felt like saying it anyways.

Jesus christ. In case you've missed it here it is again. In your direct experience your will is not ultimate, therefor you're not the sole maker of reality. Ggwp. Solipsism debunked.

I wasn't trying to adress what you were saying. I was giving you an argument why solipsism is bs.

The reality where everyone shares the same conciousness and where God's will is manifesting in everything and everyone, if that is your definition of solipsism, then I have no problem with that. I'm not sure you can still call a reality like that solipsism tho. It's true from one perspective, but it is lacking the relative perspective. The word solipsism alone fails to describe reality in its fullness imo.

Said a person who doesn't understand what will is. You really paid alot attention to what makes your experience indeed 👍

Just imagine a lucid dream where you can do whatever. It means you could control the universe like you can control the fingers on your hand.

It's your direct experience that your will is not ultimate. The following conclusion comes naturally after that.

Mm, more likely God is going to individuate itself infinitely more and more. So I don't see it ending.

Yes, and that places you in a position where you're no longer the sole maker of the universe. You're just a finger expression of infinity. And there are infinite fingers just like you.

The fact that you can't control reality to your will entirely shows that you're not the only manifestation of God's will. You're just a part of God. That automatically implies God is manifesting his will through other parts of himself aswell. Like a hand with multiple fingers. Therein is solipsism debunked.

You can make your will manifest to certain extent. But because there are parts of the reality that your will has no influence over, it shows you're not the ultimate maker. God is the ultimate maker, and he manifests a portion of his will through you. And other parts of his will through other life forms.

If reality was a product of your imagination, you'd be able to imagine things as per your will. Since you can't, it proves you're not the sole maker of the dream.

You experience a taste of infinity. Not the end of infinity. Infinity is evermore greater than any taste of infinity you have right now or ever will have.

All experience is magnificent in itself, but no experience is the end of God's greatness.

It means controlling a dream like a lucid dream.

Your experience is a taste of the absolute, not the end of the absolute. If you think there's nothing more to God than your puny experience, then you embarrassingly underestimated infinity.

You can prove that your will is not ultimate. The fact you can't bend reality at your will is the proof you're not the sole maker of the dream.

Ramana is saying to treat others as yourself. If you can only treat with yourself, then you can only treat with sentience, since you're a sentience itself. That's where solipsism crumbles. Solipsism believes only you're sentient and everything else is the projection of your subconscious mind. Nonduality means the mind of God is playing all the characters all at once. Solipsism implies there is only one perspective called "your puny life". Whereas nonduality implies there are infinite perspectives and you are all of them all at once. Same infinite conciousness experiencing itself from infinite angles. Solipsism implies your will is the ultimate will (yet they self evidently can't control anything). Nonduality implies God's will controls everything, a portion of that will is manifesting through you and other portions of that same will is expressing through other life forms. In the end it's just one will like there is just one hand but that one will has many fingers. Each finger has its own function. Whereas solipsism believes a finger is in control of the universe, even tho it's self evidently not true, yet they will continue to cling to that position despite all the evidence.

Questioner: How should you treat others? Ramana: there are no others, there is only yourself. Implication: everything is part of the same One Sentient Self. Conclusion: solipsism is bs.

Maybe everyone is on the spectrum. 0.01% of autism is not a big deal.

Flat earth is undiniable.