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@Gabriel Antonio thanks for sharing your experience also It's interesting for me to hear that psychedelics would have a grounding and healing effect on you... thanks But to be fair if stability is what you need in life, there are far more reliable methods to become more grounded and balanced then psychedelics. And far more safer.

@Gabriel Antonio interesting. But it doesn't sound like you weren't emotionally unstable. It sounds like you were reasonably stable but confused about spiritual liberation or smth. And psychedelics gave you some nice insight. Am I wrong? Being confused is not the same as having no balance. Being confused is a good thing. Or is it that you were totally depressed and stressout and then did ceremony and everything became fine and now you're joyful and happy? The real question is whether psychedelics made you more grounded or not. Because my point is psychedelics can't make you more grounded. it can only shatter your pshychological structure on whitch all you sanity depends on. Before you remove that make sure you can stand being insane. That's what I meant. My point is you don't solve your existencial crisis by shattering your sense of reality even more. afterall, all the fear and stress that is happening is simply because his constructed reality is falling away. He realizes that he has no free will and that is too much for him. Imagine if he finds out he doesn't exist. He'll go crazy. It's important to have a solid foundation before you climb high. Otherwise work on your balance and stay on the ground.

Psychedelics will not bring balance into your life i can guarentee you that. If you can't even maitain proper sanity while being sober, then psychedelics will only mess you up even more. What you need in life right now is to bring balance on all levels. Clearly your mind is working against you. Anxiety and stress is all a consiquence of no balance in the mind. Psychedelics will not give you balance. That's a 100% guarentee. And possibility for you to become even more imbalanced is huge. You have nothing to gain from psychedelics at all. Psychedelics can be useful when you're extremely balanced and stable. Then venturing into different dimensions can be fantastic. If you do that in your current condition you will go crazy. It will brake you. It will not stabalize you.

Lol. This is possible to achieve. That's what did on some level. Not directly but somehow I managed to found a mutual understanding and a good relationship with my situation. I don't know how I did this but I'm living with parents and I do Yoga and they seem to be okey with that. We never had a serious discussion about that. Life just arranged itself like that somehow and it's working well for me They say what are you going to do for a living. I say I don't know, my business is just to do Yoga, then something will happen

Interesting. Are you a fan of Mantak chia's work? I like him myself. It would be something totally different if i get a girlfriend then his techneques would be golden treasure for me If book doesn't work there's one more way that I'm aware of to stop fapping. It's shambhavi kriya from sadhguru. It worked for me at least.

Alchohol detox

That's all I know basicly That's what Sadhguru says. What takes lifetimes of heart breaking sadhana of holding your breath, twisting your body, doing this and that. A devotee can do the same thing with ease and joy without any struggling. https://youtu.be/pfqXRwxIu84

It has nothing to do with enjoyable or not. Maybe in this quote was said to a certain audiance. Like a adviata audience. Usually if you do self-enquiry and you're feeling very comfortable then you're not putting attention on the hot spot. You're avoiding something. Also devotion is the quickest way to enlightenment and it's the most enjoyable. So that statement probably works only under a certain context.

That's a perfect amount for becoming an Isha Hatha Yoga teacher

It's painful to watch but 90% of things that are said here are totally pointless. Somebody said something irrelevent and all the attention got diverted there. Just to avaid questioning the real benefit of psychedelics. They started questioning who's the devil... What was suppossed to be an joyful insight and perspective and new ways of looking into psychedelics turned into pointless anger about something. Nobody even understands what they're fighting about We're all on the same page here ?

I had the same feeling

For them there is no problem. They cross the border and they come back. What he means is that someone who's a on a path of kriya when they reach the peak of enlightenment they are still very physcially capable. It's not the same with others. Others have huge trouble to remain in body and to keep it healthy. but For them there is no problem. This is really interesting video about how saints who reach the peak of enlightenment struggle with their body. You will have a better understanding what he means by that. You can skip to 4.15min.

This thread is loosing it's main goal and message. It's perfectly reasonable to assume that psychedelics are dengerous no matter how responsibly you use them. It's just too forceful and random. Martin Ball fits very well into example of this here. Unless you become liberated, then paying the price with your body would be alright. But now it seems you don't even get enlightened. All you get is crazy shit experiences and suffering. Sadhguru ofter says that it's a huge trap for spiritual seekers to be trapped in fancy experiences. They spend all their lives living in their own universe but they are just as far as everyone else from liberation. Bhuddha experienced all 8 samadhis and discarded them. He said that's not it. That's not the liberation. it's just a fancy experience. So psychedelics could be just like that. You can go into different states and realities but still be not liberated. It could be heavily entangling actually because you don't want to come out of it. I think I went off topic myself but it's an interesting perspective nonetheless.

But he died in absolute bliss and exstacy. You will never hear him complaining about omg I'm so sad. God please remove this cancer. No his body was infested with worms - he didn't care. He got cancer - he sat still in blissfulness. He could be burning on fire and still be at ultimate wellbeing inside because he had no identity with his body. In his experience it was not even happening to him. That's what I consider an enlightened Being. Martin is nowhere near such experience. He calls himself the god of the universe but he's complaining about mosquito bites. Edit: sorry i mixed the Maharshi with another indian advaita master who also had cancer.

That sounds like a better answer.

You rised an interesting question. Maybe he's not enlightened afterall...

Omg i just read it. It's a sorry state to be for him.

Is this some kind of latest news? Where is this information you're talking about ? I'm interested. Balance people. No balance + strong awakening = going crazy. Balance + strong awakening = fantastic. The stronger awakening the better. the stronger the awakening when there's no balance, the more you will suffer.

Being selfless doesnt mean you do everything that people ask you to do for them. It means you want other people to be happy that's all. And in your capacity you do what you can to give them happyness. If someone says give me all your money and you give him all your money, that's not selfless activity. punching him in the face would be a greater service to him then giving him all your money. See... Btw. Look at saints and gurus who give their whole life to others. Is anyone taking advantage of them? No but you can use them for your wellbeing and liberation whenever you want. They want to you to use them

There are things that you can do without initiation. But there are things witch you can never do without transmission. Transmission is a gift from your guru basicly. It's not your meditation anymore. It's only a seed that your guru gives you and you only have to nurture it and care of it. Then seed will sprout and bear fruits. If you're not initiated nothing will sprout because there's no seed. Maybe your lung capasity will increase only. Maybe some new sensations will arise in you. But your life will not change. Your behavior will not change. Your paterns will not change. Sadhguru says Improvement can be made without any initiation. But if you want to transform yourself then you need initiation. Transformation means nothing of the old remains For example when I was doing self-enquiry and mindfulness meditation for 3years I got some benefits like my mental clarity was better, I was becoming smarter, I would get insights about stuff. Something was improving but my life was not changing. My relationships were all the same. My anxiety problems were still the same. My depression didn't go away. I still couldn't open up to people. I was afraid of social interactions. My life was exacly how it was except I was more spiritualy educated and with a better mindfulness over my mind. But when I was initiated into shambhavi my life just flipped upside down in a moment. Even on the very first day I was already a different person. I could see that I'm doing things I never even imagined doing it. Totally crazy things that were totally unlike me. I could dance, I could sing, i could finally express myself with people so effortlessly. These things were impossible for me. Such transformation was definitely not my doing. It was all sadhguru's doing and his grace that made this happen. It's totally beyond my understanding... Also don't get me wrong. I still see value in doing self-reflection and other things. It's just that there're things that initiation can do to you beyond your personal effors.

You think climbing Mount Everest is suffering? Yes there could be pain but it's not suffering, it's an adventure. Those who are not prepared for them it is suffering. Those who prepared themselfs, for them it's a devine pilgrimage.

I'm not saying that these videos are true. But I heard sadhguru say changing your DNA is possible. You can change your genetics, DNA, and everything that you want actually. Sadhguru says if you go to his advanced programs the initiations are so strong that the face features change over 24h. And these programs are available for everyone who has gone deep enough into Isha.

Very tricky quizz of hate :D:D:D Omg Russell is a beast here. how he controlled the whole situation and atmosphere it's amazing.

Hmmm. Thanks for sharing this. It looks good