Salvijus

That's a nice state you're in Just stay in this "I don't know state..." and let the consiquences come. There's an incredible silence and the greatest intelligence in this I don't know.. It will guide you what is best for you and what is the most appropriate action for you. ? But honestly i don't know anything myself. I would feel the same way you do if i was in your situation

"Invitation To Freedom" - Mooji. A good book for self-enquiry. The beautiful thing is as you read the book, self-enquiry starts to happen automatically in you as if the words are facilitating and guiding you. Anyways..... My advise. You will most probably do it wrong unless you follow masters guidence. Self-inquiry is not a mental game. It's a process of looking, and observing what is true. That confusion and that voice, "but how can I get it, how can I see the perceiver" it's coming from the mind. It's also a sign that you're doing mental nonsense. If you do authentic self inquiry you should move towards silence not confusion. But i guess it's natural in the beggining to be confused don't worry about it. Just use this video next time you do self-enquiry. And let his words sink into you. It will activate authentic self-enquiry from inside. You'll see it will be totally different then doing mental gymanastics: Witness the witness, witness, witness, the witness, witness, witness... Endlessly you'll go like that with your mind.

If it was me I would find a way to educate him about all the meditation and inner technologies for wellbeing. There's so much that he could do for his wellbeing actually. But it needs to be delivered and talked into in a very careful manner, you can't just drop a bundle of information on him like ton of bricks. He will resist then. But you idk. Nobody can tell you what is best for you to do. According to your own intelligence and understanding you act. If your intentions are good it shouldn't turn out to be bad for others (I think :D)

@Aaron p feeling cool sensations is not always a good sign. "Even if the most wonderful thing happens to you, if you're not ready for it, it will be a disaster" #sadhguru Anyways. I'm happy you made the descision to tone it down. ?

That's not true. Every single human being has a desire to grow and become little more then what they are right now. Only thing is, some people are seeking this unconciously, some are seeking this consciously. Those who seek expansiveness unconciously they try to achieve that in is so many ways. All the attempt in the world to make money, to create a family, to gather knowledge, to have more and more friends, to raise your status many many things.. are just a desire to expand and become more. But it's an unconcious desire. If it becomes conscious desire to grow then the spiritual process begins. There's is a force in us that wants to become boundless. It's never satisfied until it becomes limitless. People think after I become the president or after I make this much money i will be satisfied. No. Even if you become a president you still want to become something more and something more. You will start looking at the stars, you will not be satisfied being president. Because there's something inside which will not settle for anything less then infinity. So everybody has this desire to be a little more. Only thing is they are not conscious of it. They don't understand what they want in life. They think they want money, sex, status... No actually they want to become a little more then what they are right now and that is their futile and unconcious attempt to reach infinity. Spiritual seeker meens he's trying to achieve the same thing that everybody wants to achieve but in a scientific manner. Only by dissolving your individuality can you become boundless. Everybody wants to become boundless. But many are not conscious of it. Please consider watching the video. It's a much clearer and comprehensive answer then what i gave you. I guarantee it will answer your questions completely. ?

Is your question why we chose to grow? Simple answer - it's the law of consciousness, you don't have any choice in this. Nature put this desire to grow into you involuntarily. You're basicly forced to grow, lol A more detailed and better answer:

"Do something that matters to you"

I love that guy ? He's like sadhguru to me but only from a Tao tradition.

I told you kriya is dangerous. You should never do kriya from a book. And you should never try and do your own modifications of kriya. If you're doing proper kriya practice, you'd feel 10times more balanced and peaceful everyday, not the other way around. You're just messing with your system without knowing anything about how it functions. If you do it right it can do miracles for you. If you missuse it it can be very disastrous process. If I were you i'd do a little bit of these practices. It's 100%safe, tho it's not very spiritually potent but it's very good for bringing balance in your system and mind. You could benefit from this. Do the other ones aswell it has many balancing benefits.

"No techeque. Simply inteligence of life." This is about making descisions. This is an answer to every damn situation that could happen in life ever.... And embodiment of this is enlightenmemt in many ways.. Questioner: what should we do when someone wants kill our family, should I remain a good person and stay away or shoukd I become a killer and kill the enemy. What is the right descision.? Answer: This answer applies to every descision in life.

I think you're missing something. How people chose meaning option and get away with it. See. You don't need to be happy 24h/a day. Just momemts of joy, there and there they keep you going. That's how it is most of the time. You don't need 100% solid meaning. Just some random meaningless meaning will do the trick. Some moments of happy there and there keeps you going. If life becomes and endless stream of suffering then life becomes not worthwile anymore. If there're some moments of joy that's all it takes for life to become meaningful. Second thing. Im interested why is there such a struggle with vippassana for you? What is causing so much pain? Maybe you're expecting too much, don't try to find full acceptence on first day. Maybe you should just do it without expectations, simply observe, observe, observe, equanimity.. whatever happens - happens.

"Life on fast forward" worth a watch really to understand these things I talked about

@tedens I follow Isha's path which i shared my experiences many times in this forum over and over. Isha path involves everything from creating a blissful life, health, material success, to moving into deeper states of detachment and nothingness, and then the last stage is about samyama which is purely to dissolve yourself. Once sadhguru initiates you into samyama it will unleash a lifetimes of memory to dissolve you very fast. Life will begin to roll on fast forward. "Once you sit with me, one foot of mine will always be in your life, it's heavy and it's on the throttle (laughs)"… "Life on full throttle" #sadhguru. That's his favorite quote Sadhguru'a methods are really beoynd logic. It's really an amazing path, complete path and very comprehensive path. I didn't go to the samyama program so I'm still not on the path of Mukti. I don't feel ready for this. I enjoy immensly my progress just as it is. Never grown so fast in my life. When the time comes, when i feel ready for samyama I'll go for it naturally. So i don't have anything to tell you really Sadhguru says a desire for samyama or Mukti can only come for happy people. For those people who experienced this life in great meassure and now want to go beoynd. That's the whole effort of the first programs. To create a blissfulness inside you and to live life intensly so that the desire to go beyond would arise in them. then there's the last program designed just for that purpose. "Suffering will not seek" #sadhguru

Idk why i try to explain this. I just felt like it. And when i got tyred i stopped. Maybe for someone it will ignite some new curiosity to move forward. Maybe it will make someone realize that there's much more then what you hear on Leo's videos..

@Nahm its tyring because you're so closed minded it's impossible to navigate through anything in here. Just to explain the most basic things takes enormous effort because receptivity here is 0 and resistence is 100 . I'm not even going deep. This is the most basic stuff I'm talking here. it's just an itroduction to realize that all your advaita stuff is not the end. There's much much more to it then you know it.

@legendary yes vippassana is very much about dissolving karma. No wonder it came from Bhuddha's teachings. We are not talking about good karma and bad karma. Yes, that also is there and i agree with tom it's the intention behind your actions that matter not the action istelf. But we're not talking about performing good karma but to dissolve all karma which is a different ball game altogether. Karma is an accumilated memory. lifetimes of memory which run in cycles and which are created by your likes and dislikes. All your personality boils down to your likes and dislikes isnt it? That's why in vippassana you always hear. No cravings no aversions. Just stay equanimous. They want you to destroy all the likes and dislikes of yours which is the basis of your personality. What you like and dislike is also your accumilated karma. These cravings and aversions is what causing the beingness to reincarnate over and over. So yeah... I don't know where I'm going with this. I'm getting pretty tired of explaining this extremly subtle matters which I'm myself don't have a perfect understanding.

You're asking me very sensitive questions which requires a very clear understanding of this and a lot of attention and studying. I may not be the best person to answer all your questions. since it's a very advanced teachings. Do you even know anything about chakras? If you didn't come to that point where chakras and prana are a living reality for you. Then what I'm gonna say will be complete out of your league. Right know you have 5bodies physical body, mental body, energy body, some non physical body which there's no appropriate name for it in english and a bliss body which is also not appropriate translation. Yes you can very much leave your body and do all those things but that's not what Mukti is. Right now you're a ghost with a body, when you die, you drop your physical body but other 4 bodies do not die. They reincarnate into another body. That's why reincarnation happens. Because other bodies, your mental, energy, and other 2 bodies are still alive and intact. The idea of ultimate liberation is to dismantle all the first 4 bodies and brake the cycles of life and death… then the bliss body, aka, pure consciousness leaves the body and merges with the rest of the universe. Okey.... This probably too much for you... I'm gonna stop there... You can watch sadhguru talk about 5 layers of body

@CreamCat consciousness can't cease to exist. But your accumilated memory, your impressions, your personality, identity these things can dissolve. It's one thing to realize your true nature and see that you're not your ego. It's a second thing thing do dissolve the ego and become nothing. In this state one will naturally leave their body. The only thing that's keeping you here trapped in this body is karma or accumilated memory. Sadhguru says in this state 99% of people leave their body, only kriya yogis know how to remain inside a body after full dissolusion. Because they know all the tricks of the body.

No i had no non dual experiences ever, nor do I care so much about them, being happy is more important to me then being in nondual states. But i do not claim that I'm seeking Mukti yet. I'm not ready for that stuff That's why Bhuddha sayed, i experienced all 8states of samadhi and i discarded them all. It's not liberation it's just a fancy experience. That's why Bhuddhism is all about karma and dissolusion if you read Bhuddhism it doesn't talk about fancy experiences. Just methods to dissolve. There're methods to reach nondual states. And there're totally different methods altogether to dissolve karma. Which is pretty scary for me. Sadhguru's last program initiation in samyama is all about dissolusion. Just an idea to go there makes me terrified. this stuff is for advanced spiritual seekers only who don't want to live anymore and leave their body. i think I'm gonna do that program some day in the future.

@luckieluuke ??

As i sayed there's a lot of benefit to allow devotion. When someone is in the devotion he's most receptive to grace. Second thing. With devotion it becomes super easy to surrender your ego. Without devotion it's very hard crual process of hardcore sadhana. With devotion is very simple. It's the simplest and sweetest way to keep your ego aside and let the grace overtake you. Some masters chose to allow this others don't. Bhuddha wanted to make things as dry as possible Someone like Krishna or Jesus highly encouraged people to give themselfs totally. Mooji seems to be somewhere in between there's room for everything in his teachings. If you don't like devotion just observe observe observe it will work. If you are a little more softer and ripe you can add devotion to spyce things up. To make your progress faster.

Lol you're just trying to justify your lazy ass People are different. Everyone has their own path. Some take harsh, dedicated, unwavering path.. some are fluzzy and random. It depends on a person. Doing too much consciousness work should be the least of your concern...

@Nahm a detailed answer would take hours of studying to understand. I read about lots and lots and there still so much confusion in there. This takes some serious attention. Like 10xLeo 2h video weekends of studying Short answer. It's your accumilated memory which is desciding everything about you. You're just a bundle of memory and impressions. I'm talking about ego, not pure consciousness here. So that ego will reincarnate again and again. Pure consciousness doesn't reincarnate but that memory is trapped and that memory is longing for ultimate dissolusion. That memory longs to cease to exist. How? By dissolving karma. When you do that. That's mahasamadhi, and that's when you leave your body and dissolve into nothing. Puff That's Mukti, that's the ultimate goal in spirituality. It comes after self realization. First self realization, then dissolving karma.

@JohnnyBravo +1 @luckieluuke It's fine. Simply you need to understand that some teachers encourage devotional aspects some don't. For example the reason Bhuddha descided to make his teachings as dry as possible because he sayed after I leave my body my teachings will last much much longer if i make it as dry as possible. If you add a lot of devotion and juice into my teachings then it will not last so long. It will get distorted very fast. All the devotional teachings get distorted very fast like Jesus for example. He highly encourage people to worship him and pray to him and everything. That was his method. He would say just give yourself to me totally, you will attain. But look how distorted his teachings became. Mooji seems to allow this devotion to flow in his community and it's fine. It's his way. And it's a smart way. With devotion your growth becomes very easy and fast. Every teacher is different. All that matters is are they doing it with good intentions or to satisfy their ego... Well that's a personal judgement everyone makes for themselfs. I think he's totally free from egoic attachments and desires. Even I such a puny guy don't have any desire to manipulate people to love me. Why would a sage who did decades of consciousness work in front of a realized master would still have such ridiculous desires.... I mean.... cmon... Have some perspective...

@luckieluuke in scientology people worship because they are forced to worship. Because somebody told them if you don't bow down you will go to hell. Or smth like this. Everything there is based on beliefs and ideology. In Mooji's community no one ever tells to do such things. Simply some people out of their own, out of their gratittude without anyone forcing them, willingly bow down. That's a huge different. And even if someone in scientology felt genuine gratittude for Hubbard. It's still nice. It's nice for that person. That person who bowed downed felt sweetness of love for a few moments and that's great. It's an amazing feeling. It's not about what you worship it's about you. You chose whatever object you like and you bow down to. It doesn't matter what. You like Hitler you bow down to him. It's not about the Hitler, it's about you experiencing huge love within you. Hitler is just a tool to generate that emotion within you. Mooji doesn't care if people worship him or not. He often says please avoid pretentious bowing downs to me. But if it's a genuine longing for you, i don't want to deny that possibility to experience joy and love for yourself. Honestly, it's impossible for you to understand what it feels to feel devotion untill it happens to you. When i met Mooji face to face, tears of love were rolling like a river for me for him. At that moment bowing down at his feet would have been the most natural thing for me, the sweetest thing also. It's something that you cant understand untill the consciousness of a sage, the presence of the devine being washes you over like a sea washes over a pebble.