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It's like someone drinks a poisinous water, someone comes and says hey don't drink that it's poisinous. What? Are you against my sacred water? How dare you say my sacred water is poisinous? Are you some kind of nondual warrior? You think you're superior then everybody? You're so arrogant how can you call my water poisinous.. Well... There was no intention of me to attack anyone, nor I'm against anything, nor I'm a warrior. I did what everybody who has a little bit of sense would do. If you saw someone drinking poison wouldn't you tell him? Well that's what i did and i gave a bullet proof explanation as to why and how in what you do is naither devine nor feminine because devine is not of the body and feminine is not of the body. If you chose to delude yourself it's really a shame..

@MsNobody you really are a genius when it comes to running away from honesty and truth, I'll give you that. Unfortunatelly, that's your biggest curse if you wish to grow someday. Where did you get the idea that I'm telling you how you should express yourself? I used those pictures as an example to make a point that feminine is not about what you wear or what body parts you have it's about your inner quality. I even showed you a video that boys can be absolutely feminine as a proof that feminine has nothing to do with nudity or gender. In no way I was trying to impose on you how you should look or express yourself.

@kieranperez why are you belittleling my understanding if it's true and it makes sense and it's practical and it's logical? Is really that stupid to say that body has nothing to do with feminine? Feminine dosn't depend on how much clothes you have? Feminine is a quality not body parts? that's basicly only thing that I've sayed. Other things were just different ways to show that.

You also. Unless you're enlightened. Are you sex harmones are not influincing your experience? Are you saying if you went into a a strip club for 24h and all the fantazies would be giggling in front of you, you would remain absolutely untouched by it, absolutely uneffected and equanimous withouth a single sex craving? Don't kid yourself.... You're just like every other man unless you're a sage. Only a sage can really see reality uneffected not distorted by his animal nature. Of course different levels of consciousness has different ability to see the essence and ignore the surface. But still being naked and wanting to express the quality of feminine.... Huge fail... 95% people will completly miss the essence and see only then surface then pretend that what they feel is feminine art beauty when in fact all that they feel is just arousal. Or like most poeple 10%beauty, 90% arousal. It can depend on your level of consciousness. Don't kid yourself that you're beyond those things... @kieranperez everything i sayed was logical and sensible and you don't have to hate me for that. Nor was I attacking anyone in any way. Please... Every post I'm trying to clarify I'm not against anything here why am I a bad guy here? Because I make sense? Are you that uncomfortable with hearing that feminine has nothing to do with a body nor does body hold any value apart from being a vessel for the being? If you get so pissed of with just simple things which are true, say what you want, you can't deny it, then you really have to look at this.... I think you have some kind of personal problem with me This is not nondual worrior talk. It's very practical stuff. This can change your art completly. This understanding that you're fooling yourself when you make naked errotic art and call it devine feminine if you understand it's not. Can you imagine the implications? It can change so much for so much better. And it should happen. Sooner or later you have to realize what you're doing is not devine in any way, it's superficial. Nothing wrong with superficial. Again im not against superficial. Everything has it's place in the world. But if you call superficial as devine... You're just deluding yourself and it's bad for your growth in many ways. Those who celebrate superficial will never dig deep into essence. Please don't say just this is nonsense nondual stuff. It's very practical and useful.

Well for starters i never sayed your art is weird. I only sayed your definition or ideas about feminine is weird and i tried to comment about how feminine quality has nothing to do with bodies or amount of clothes someone wears. I think I did a pretty good job in explaining that. Second. I sayed be careful not to label being errotic with devine feminine. These are different things. A feminine is a very conscious devotion and willingness to include and a sense of offering. Errotism is more compulsive, closer to animal nature then sage nature. It's not giving yourself, it's selling yourself it's a subtle difference that many people confuse. What else.. i have 98 to go.. I'd be careful about these people. The only men capable of looking beyond the surface when they see a a naked body are very few. And i don't think you have sage friends. We have very strong animalistic tendencies. Once we see a naked body, to see beyond the surface into the essence becomes very hard. I'm willing to bet all those people who say that it's super artistic and feminine and sacred secreatly are have very different thoughts, very primitive thoughts.. I'm telling you... They didn't it takes sage levels to actually be able to see beyond your sexual drive. Because it's so dominant in our lives, people spend their whole lives living around this compulsion... 90% of the songs and movies are just about sex appiel. They call it romance, sacred relationships.. but it's just a compulsive sex drive. Well you have to accept this sooner or later. It is just a surface. The only reason why body is important is because there's something precious inside the body. If you remove that life force inside a body becomes meaningless. Just bone and meat. A chest is only valuable if there's treasure inside, if the chest is empty, it's a worthless box. The same with the body, it's just a vessel of meat and bones glorified to the hevens. People are missing the whole point of what devine feminine is. It not about the box it's about the treasure. It's about your absolute involvment and all permeating love that is devine not the body. I gave an example of a corpse just to make you see that body without life is nothing. It was meant to show you that if you remove the essence a body is not beautiful in any way. It's just a corpse or a big meatbag. There's nothing appielling about the body in itself if the core essence is not there. That's what people should focus and emphezise more. Not the bodies. Okey... this should do it. Either way I'm just repeating myself what I sayed earlier. This is really not that hard to understand. And this was in no way intended against nudity or your art or anything like that. Everything i wrote was with good intentions because you asked me to elaborate on what I think in the beginning, just some unnecessary conflict and missunderstandings happened.

It's like that. When you feel someone is threatening your position as a superior you feel the only solution is to get rid of him so you destroy him by devaluing him to the ground that's survival instinct in ego. Ego wants to eliminate all the competition and be the best because only when ego is the best he feels safe. When you're the inferior you feel in danger and insecure, your survival is in question now. When you're superior you feel safer so you have to protect your position and sense of security by devaluing others.

I didn't say be a jerk who doesn't care about how others feel I sayed forget yourself. It means no self-importence or no anxiety about how you look or what you do. It's a sagely quality not a jackass quality That's true

Hmmm... You really are of a bad opinion about the world, i think I can see that in here But it's hard to disagree with what i sayed. If a loving person and a terrorist would sit together, a loving person would be very trusting and in peace. A terrorist would sit in paranoia everyday thinking somebody is fallowing him or someone wants to misuse him. The more crooked you're the more you project your fear that others are also like that. How can you disagree it makes perfect sense to me well... I may be wrong who knows.

If you value truth you will see what i wrote from a totally different angle. Right now you made like 100 misinterpretions of what i sayed. If you want to delude yourself there's no one on earth that can save you.

I think if a person is dishonest, devious person then he tend to think that everyone is like that. When you're kind and honest and loving person you tend to assume that everyone is like that. Idk but i think there's some truth in this. Maybe it applies to you in same way. You're not someone to be trusted not someone who would do an act of selfless offering of goodness so why would you trust others of the same thing? maybe like this.. You mean common anxiety that people have? It's just that you're too mindful. Meaning you're too cautious, too alert, too wary, always mindful of every little thing. You don't know how to be in total abandonment. Empty, free from concern. In that condition making a conversation with anybody is not even a thing. You're free from worring and anxiety about what people may think about because you yourself no longer think about yourself. So naturally you stop worring and if you need to talk with somebody you talk. It's not even a thing anymore. This is also one reason why you may feel insecure if you're not physically fit. Sadhguru on martial arts and transcending fear.

To feel superior maybe?

You're doing the same thing right now. Either it is valuing or devaluing it's a form of judging others. You're judging devaluers as bad guys and inferior to you. That makes you a devaluer yourself.

Just to make it clear I have nothing against nudity. I was talking about what is feminine in general. I don't like when people use concepts like sacred or devine just to decorate their compulsive animal tendencies. That's why i said it could be used as symbolism at most. But in reality to be naked you only need to be cauragious and strong to ignore outside opinions. This kind of caurage and strenght and revolutional behavior is more of a masculine quality then feminine. Vulnurability comes only when you are willing to include the whole universe. Not when you stand in snow naked freezing your balls. That's just idiocy

True. I agree with this. I'd say just be honest with yourself and why you do this and why you like this form of expression. Mind is very deceptive. It can make you believe all kinds of things, but it's mostly just your harmones talking. P.S. naked body has nothing to do with vulnurability, it's just your mental projection. For someone else naked body would associate with dirt or smth it's just mental conditioning. True vulnurability is when you offer yourself totally to everything and not expect anything in return. It's when you're willing to include the whole universe as a part of yourself, this is when you're trully vulnurable because you may include a devil also, anyone may missuse you. There's no sefety for you at all because you're not concerned about yourself, you're total offering to everything. Offering to everything around you. It takes great strenght to do that. Being naked dosn't really require much strenght thus it's not true vulnurability. Tho it can be shown as symbolism i guess.

Haha..good one No I wouldn't. But being naked doesn't amount to being feminine. Feminine is about asthetics, art, love, inclusiveness etc. What you wear is of little difference. The activity that you do is not important. It's the quality of devotion and inclusiveness and a sense of offering that makes feminine quality. You can cook to make money and display masculinity or you can cook with love and care with a sense of doing something for others. That's what creates feminine quality. How much clothes do you wear when you cook makes no difference There's really nothing special about the naked body. If you remove the sexual arousal it's just a piece of meat and bones. Would you find a corpse beutiful? No, because the beauty is not in the body but what is inside a body Haha no that's not the reason i sayed it's weird. I'm not against being naked. I'm just saying putting labels of devine feminine on a body doesnt smell right to me. Of course it's one way of expressing feminine but it's hugely overrated. It's coming from somekind of repressed feelings or conditioning or smth. If everybody was walking naked, being naked would lose its value but now it's like a forbidden fruit or smth. It's just a piece of meat and bones. Feminine is much much more then just a body. Feminine has nothing to do at all with the body in fact. It's a quality not a sex organ A man can display much more feminine then a women if he wants to. 19.45 boys displaying the feminine in it's totality. P.S. just to make it clear, I didn't say your art is weird, I'm just saying your definition of "feminine" is weird.

What is the ultimate purpose of a flower? To blossom. Or a tree? To blossom. Or a human being? To blossom. Or whatever life form? To blossom. It means to evolve. Evolution and growth is the ultimate purpose of life. Whatever form of life it is, it is always striving to evolve and grow. The purpose of growing and evolving and blossoming is the same. What do you think blossoming means for humans, to become famous? To become the richest person on earth? It means to reach peak levels of consciousness. Body can no longer evolve. Body is at it's limits. It's a scientific fact now that naither body nor brain can evolve any further. You can learn to use them better but they can't evolve futher. The only thing that can evolve is human consciousness. That's what you really are. You need to cultivate yourself, your consciousness untill it blossoms into a wonderful flower, aka, enlightenment. Enlightenment is the peak evolution of human form.

I mean your association with faminine that it's about a femele body, or nakedness or sexual arausal. That's what's weird to me. Tho yes it's also a part of feminine but idk... Something doesn't smell right. Feminine is more about willningness to include, no self-importence, gentelness, care, devotion, offering yourself etc.. Flowers are feminine This is feminine. It really has little to do with what you wear or not wear

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Nice report. But your ideas about feminine are weird to me I like this kind of feminine tho. "The feminine is ultimate willingness. Without willingness, there would be no love, no care, nothing gentle in this world." - Sadhguru It's also weird but very feminine.

The only thing that makes sense to me is working on your growth, growing and evolving as a being and that's all. If I do a job it's only to make money and pay for my growth like travelling to ashram or paying for programs etc.. If I had a relationship it would be also just for growth. Whatever it is, only thing that matters is blossoming. If a thing has nothing to do with development i have no interest in it. LP and maslow's phyramid makes no sense to me. I have no time for it, just go for what matters in life. Just my 2cent. This video could spark some thoughts into you.

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Try to travel without money. Or minimal amount of money. Try solo meditation retreats. Try vippassana retreat, 10days and you'll be free from these cravings. Leave your house for some time, a week or two maybe.

I think you're right. My guess would also be lack of vision and incentive to pursue your goals. Nice vippassana is really good for this kind of thing. To start new things etc. Lol what i meant was yoga that is delivered in a proper way. You will understand what a proper delivery of practice means once you go through vippassana. You'll see it's impossible to do vippassana without attentending the retreat.. It's just not alive in you. You'll see. It will be very obvious after you finish the retreat. With Yoga it's even more important to have a proper delivery because it's much more subtle technology. Sadhguru says only a yogi can deliver yoga. So that what I meant by real yoga. Yoga that you learn from a real yogi, not a book or a video or some studio yoga instructor. Only then will it have the impact on you that I'm talking about. It's very very different. There're some legit yogis who teach proper yoga to people but it's hard to access them unless you live in India or smth. But if you live in Europe or US your best chance is sadhguru probably. He's all over Europe and US and everywhere else. There're many programs happening every month by trained Isha hatha Yoga teachers. ... Yes I do everyday, sometimes twice a day Good thing about Yoga is that all the benefits that you get from doing it are very motivating. The more you do it, the more you want to do it more and more So that's good. You don't have to grind through it every time. Those 2h+ everyday are my favorite part of the day actually. It's a very satisfying proccess of growth and spirituality with many benefits to keep you motivated. It always leaves me with great enthusiasm for life. "Life on full-throttle, that's my blessing for you" #sadhguru He's not lying

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