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@Raptorsin7 Exacly. Shakti means energy. The whole cosmos is one energy and that energy is love. All creation is love. But all creation comes from nothingness/shiva. So conciousness is more fundamental than love but they go together also.

Idk about the shivashakti thing. But that consciouness is beyond any quality im certain. And the most appropriate name for it is nothing. Not love. Love comes out of that abidence of nothing. That's my experience actually. But it's also logical Love is like state more. But the primordial emptyness without any quality never comes and goes. And is the source of all things. That Im sure of.

Appareatly not. That which is beyond all qualities can't be called love. The only appropriate name would be Nothing. And it's a higher truth then god consciouness. God love consciouness is a thing. But it's not the ultimate. At least that's what sadhguru and buddha says. Plus it makes total sense to me. Love is not consciouness, love is a manifestaion of consciouness. Consciouness has no qualities. It's Nothing. Your true nature is nothing at all. Love is Shakti, consciouness is Shiva. ShivaShakti. Creation is shakti, the source of creation is Shiva. Creation is love, the source of creation is nothingness.

@RMQualtrough sorry the video is on sadhguru exclusive app... It is this video but it's not full. He only talks about the 4th body in here, the infinite mind. There are 3 more bodies beyond that.

plus there's a video where sadhguru talks about 7 bodies saying 5 and 6 body feels like god, feels like everything, feels like there's nothing beyond it and get stuck there. But it's not shoonya/nirvana. It's not the final 7th body. It's an interesting watch

I don't think you would use the word god in cessation. You would use nirvana or nothingness. There can't be anything that transcends nothingness. Love still has a quality. So it's not the highest. That which is beyond all qualities. Shiva is the highest. That makes sense to me at least at the logical level. When man pursues experience, he becomes the body. When he pursues knowledge, he becomes the mind. When he pursues God, he becomes the Heart. When he pursues Truth, he becomes Nothing. ~ Mooji

I would agree. No need to go 100%, 99% is good enough ?

@Inliytened1 I mean there are stories of ramana maharshi sitting and worms infesting his leg and he wouldn't bother about it. He would not even bother eating for survival, others had to put food into him to keep him alive because was so beyond the survival drive. Later he started to take care of himself tho. But still, makes you think, isn't it.

@Inliytened1 yeah that subconscious survival instict I was also thinking about. I believe that instict is there because the intensity of awareness is not at its peak. If you hit the peak intensity of awareness. Samadhi or smth. Than even bear attacking you will make no difference to you. That's how I see at least. Total elimination of fear requires Total disillusionment. That implies the peak intensity of awareness. P.s is that dog in your avatar your husky? ?

Yeah. Body can heal itself and body can maintain itself and has a natural maintenace of itself. But fear in my opinion is 99% if not 100% psychological not bodily. Body is just a veichle an instrument a car that you drive. Car has no fear. Fear is in the psyche. Psyche controls the body. That's how I see it. Idk, if it's true.

@VeganAwake fear is resistence. Resistence is suffering. If fear happens than it's because there is a lack of insight that you can't die and you don't even exist.

Fear and acceptance never go together. It's like resistence and acceptance never go together. In total acceptance there can't be a spot of resistence. Otherwise It's not a total acceptance, it's partial acceptance. To say I accept my resistence is just mental cleverness.

@Consilience If there's no resistence to anything at all, can there be any fear?

@Consilience Fear is a form of resistence. And the end of resistence is the end of fear. Would you agree?

@VeganAwake there's no such thing as bodily fear. Have you ever seen a corpse in fear? No. Fear is always psychological.

@Consilience Fear of death is impossible when there's a clear recognition that there is no you. No exceptions.

@Consilience To say "I'm not afraid to feel afraid" is like saying I'm not afraid of fearing snakes when there are no snakes to begin with. @Nahm lol ?

@Consilience why do you say it's impossible to not feel fear if fear is only an illusion? Caused by a false belief in the self. Is full disillusionment not possible? It's like saying it's impossible to not be afraid of ropes. I say nonsance. Once the recognition that a snake is a rope happens fear goes away totally. Not partialy, not weaker, totally, no exceptions. I'm talking about an ultimate insight. An ultimate insight into no self which comes from hitting the peak intensity of awareness. Full buddhahood. Full disillusionment. I'm talking seeing through all illusions without a trace of it left. If there is not a single trace of illusion left, there's not a trace of fear left.

@Nahm I can die peacefully now... ? Thank you Nahm for being a man of reason ?????

Do you really spend a lot of time thinking about these things? ? Well, how would I know. But I think it's true. Not that I have any evidence or proof smth. Transmittions are definitely real. So super powers are not very far from this, imo. Occult is probably also real, black magic also etc.

? lol. Possible. Could happen. Tho I'm very uncomfortable and akward in such situations . ? but I could do it probably. We can see. ? Im 24. From Lithuania currently. Now you know all my secrets ?

@Breakingthewall Aaa. Okey. I see your point. This is where I would disagree. This. I would say if you see the snake is not real, the snake is only a rope. Creation will not stop. Rope will not dissapear from existence. The rope will remain, only the belief that the rope is a snake will go away. That's what is happening when awakening happens. Realization happens that there is no you. Existence still continues, but the fear of death is gone. P.s. no I have not arrived at the ultimate disillusionment. Some degree of disilliusionment yes. But far from total. Do I look like a Buddha to you? ? I'd not be here shitposting with you guys ?

Haha. Well the intention is at least pure. What I would do in this situation, if i wanted to help people I would become like a vipassana teacher, or isha hatha yoga teacher. That's me. Because well I like these things. But the point you see. To become one of those things that spread consciouness in humanity and makes you survive. Well this is what you're already doing but in your own version really ? Idk, it's just the only thing that pulls my attention these days. Some pilgrimages, visiting temples, meditation, yoga, rising consciouness, meeting awake beings, just pulls me. It's like meeting a god. What is there not to like about it ? My life is simple. I saved up some money to travel, now I just live daily life taking care of a dog, chilling with parents, meditating, shitposting on forum when I get tired of meditation ? stuff like that.

No qualifications needed? ? Interesting. Lets hope it's not just an initial hype ?

I think I will move to some ashram or meditation center once the lockdown calms down a little bit. I had plans to move to portugal to meet mooji long ago but everything is getting postponed now because of covid. Once I get there I will know what to do next. Now that is all I now. ? I just want to meet him. Say hello. Stay there for some time if possible. He's been a huge influence on me.