Salvijus

You're complicating it too much. There are dissonant sounds and harmonious sounds. There is something inside of us that knows the difference without the use of mental analysis. That's energetic resonance. Now imagine there is an instrument, an energetic compass that tells you what is love and what is not love. That's intuition.

Well to answer your previous post about fish. Many animals function not on the basis of mental analysis like humans. They navigate in life by energetic resonance. So that's intuition. Idk if that answers your argument.

Perception is called conciousness. Word is spirit. Even what you say has a frequency. It will reverberate with truth or falsehood. And the heart can tell the difference

Exactly. So it's possible to know something without the use of mental analysis. So it's not a fantasy. And there is a particular instrument, the heart resonance of consciousness, the frequency of love inside that is like a compass to tell you what is true and what is false. And it needs no mental faculty. That's intuition.

It was simply an example that it's possible to know something without the use of mental analysis but on the basis of resonance alone. The heart/conciousness is another such instrument.

Let's take one example where sadhguru says or some other yogi he can look at the food and know exactly if it's good for his body or not. Now this type of knowledge is not mental analysis. It's energetic resonance. It's intuition. Ta-da.

The musical example I gave is one example where you can know something without mental analysis. So it's not a fantasy. This form of knowledge is possible in other areas of life aswell. By feeling the resonance of what is love and what is not love.

After more thought I realized the example with animals is not a very good one. I'll have to think of something else.

Lol

My intuition says it's just ego battles happening lol

I have no idea myself. It's complicated lol

Intuition means to know something by resonance. The simplest example is the musical one that I gave before. Each note revebarates at a certain frequency. When one of those notes is off, it is jarring to the system and you know it is off not by intellectual analysis but by feeling the resonance of sounds. Same way Truth is a certain frequency. That frequency is love. And intuition means you can tell what is in harmony with love and what is not in harmony with love. That way your intuition shows you the way to every decision. For example, how do animals know what to eat? Did they study nutrition course? Or do they know it in their heart and need not use any mental faculties to know?

I thought that's a pretty good argument. "To guess something with high precision based on massive amounts of previous data and pattern recognition and to know something with perfect certainty and resonance of the heart while relying on no past data at all are two very different things."

Yea but my arguments are more solid in the end. To guess something with high precision based on massive amounts of previous data and pattern recognition and to know something with perfect certainty and resonance of the heart while relying on no past data at all are two very different things.

Hmm, interesting points being made here. Okay, let's say ai is a perfect guessing machine. But perfect guessing is not intuition either. Intuition does not guess, it KNOWS beyond guessing, it KNOWS. Like conciousness. Intuition and conciousness go together. Being good at guessing and knowing something with certainty, with the certainty of God itself are not the same thing. That's why I'm skeptical of Ai having intuition or Love or conciousness etc. But I don't fully understand your position of what makes you say what you say so I can't give a proper counter argument. @Joshe I enjoyed reading your take btw.

I use the structure of a particular language to express myself. That structure is always the same. Ai follows the structure of a certain computing code. That's its language.

It will write the answer that it was programmed to write. Wtf. For real.

To say ai has intuition is like saying a calcutor has intuition.

Wtf are you smoking.

How so? It's just a computing algorithm. It has zero intuition.

Intuition is as certain as the knowledge when a note is out of tune. If you're tone-deaf, all musical notes will make no difference to you. When your discernment is sharp, the slightless variation of out of tune note will be jarring to your entire system. That's the power of knowing things by energetic resonance and there's no intellectual analysis involved in it. Energy never lies.

Let me know when you've constructed a proper argument to any of my points.

Cool

That's all good and clever but others having bodily limitations does not qualify you a as slave master/owner. Subduing other's will to fit yours by force is what qualifies a slave master.

Fast pattern recognition is not intuition. It's just another form of mental analysis.