Salvijus

To be stupid or not to be stupid. Very difficult choice indeed. Lol Focus on smth else maybe, these desires will pass soon and you will feel good that you didn't go that road in the end. I think somewhere deep you know it. That's why the struggle is happening within you. Just do the right thing, you'll be glad in the end. ?

I can speak for myself that if you do an authentic high quality practice like isha yoga and not some youtube cowdung, all these things like depression, anxiety, insomnia will go away. I'm saying this, because I used to be depressed and suicidal 24/7 some years ago. And today I can't even remember when I had a bad day or a bad sleep. Life is easy, your problem is you're looking for solutions in the wrong place, you do some stupid nonsence and then expect results to come. No, unless you do the right things, rights thinga won't happen to you. I recommend people if they're serious about their own wellbeing to find a high quality tools for their transformation instead of listening to false teachers and teachings that are roaming the entire internet space today. Regards ❤?

Realizing how untasty and boring healthy food can be ? It took me a lot of time to learn how to make delicious healthy meals, I still struggle with it tho.

Maybe little bit

My hunch, your diet and lifestyle is bad. You probably overeat and then sit with full stomach. Classic thing people do that is not good for the stomach. Either you have to go walking for 1h or sit in vajrasana, vajrasana is the only posture you can sit on full stomach.

Probably true because of how consistently various spiritual traditions talk about the same thing. And you can actually experience it if you reach those levels of awareness, like I heard in long 30-45days vipassana people might enter those lower or higher realms. It's there in every spiritual practice actually if you go deep enough into it. ❤

I don't know. I really struggle to find appropriate words for it right now. ?

The more developed you are, the better basicly. Your ability to draw benefit from psychedelics will depend on how developed and spiritually evolved you are in general. If you’re not properly developed, psychedelics will only make your life worse. Mental balance and ability to observe your mind with detachment and equanimity could save you from a bad trip. If your mind starts resisting, things could turn ugly. For this sufficient development in awareness is needed. Meditation practice is good for this. Age thing is a smart thing to do. Don't get impatient and compulsive about psychedelics. That hastiness and desperatness will make you make many stupid desicions in your life. Do some hatha yoga. Hatha yoga espesially can prepare your system to take higher levels of energy. This will minimize the damage caused from psychedelics to your system. And will ensure you don't get fused out from too much intense energy. But try to learn high quality yoga like isha yoga, not some white american lulu pants yoga. Only then it will be useful. Do plant psychedelics rather than lab chemicals, they're less damaging to the system. Clean your mind, don't watch any horror movies obviously, or squid games lol. You can do a vipassana retreat, you'd be surpriser how much bullshit is there in your unconscious mind. Stabalize yourself on some kind of spiritual path before you do psychedelics so that they don't become more important than daily spiritual practice of yours. I see that happening to people which is a sad thing to watch. Practice awareness of awareness meditation because that's where nondual self-realization insight resides. Make your energies in the agna dominant. Otherwise you'll just be fooling around with beautiful colors and shapes in your trips. And lastly, ask yourself why do you want to do psychedelics? Is it because of exitement and cool experience or do you want to improve your life? If improvement of life is what you're after, I think you'd find many other much better, safer, systematic ways of doing it than psychedelics. Regards

Lol, that's a sad story bro... sorry to hear this. Perhaps doing so many trips has damaged your system is such a way that you're unable to benefit much from meditation anymore. For me, I've done 6years of spiritual practice and meditation and I live in permenant primordial awareness or what some teachers would call it effortless present moment state. Self-realization is a normal daily phenomena for me, tho it's not mind blowing or eyes-bulging-out-of-the-skull thing but it's getting stronger and stronger everyday. My awareness deepens everyday without me doing much, mind gets purer, clarity and wisodm grows naturally, sensitivity, joy and love is increasing more and more. No issues with mental health whatsoever. Life is getting better, better and better and I see it will continue this way endlessly . So yeah, that's my story. Having the best time of my life right now, each day is better then the previous one, that's how normal spiritual path should look like if you're doing the right things with yourself. That's why I discourage people from using psychedelics since there's no way they will work. You can’t rise your energy by constantly draining your energy with chemicals. Same way you can't achieve happyness or high aliveness by drinking coffee or popping anti-depressants. It only appears that coffee gives you energy but in fact it drains energy and makes you weaker. It's the same trick with psychedelics. They will only make things worse and difficult in the long run. But that's almost impossible to explain to people... Regards

If that was true, than all hippies would be fully enlightened Buddhas by now with an absolutely pure mind, without any neurosis or egotism whatsoever. Clearly that's not the case, I think. ? However I believe these substances do have the potential for healing... Such a confusing topic... You might aswell solve such simple problems like a concious human being would. By doing proper conciousness work these simple things would solve themselves automatically, which is a smarter way of doing things, imo. And more rewarding in a long term. ?

We all do the same bro ? This is where stupid people like you and me hang out. Same That's fine. I do something stupid and embarrassing everyday. If I didn't do any stupid things in my life I'd be a Buddha. People are dumb stupid creatures. There's room for mistakes bro. Embrace the sting and pain of doing something stupid. It's part of the growth process. ?

You just described an avarege human being including yourself. We are all the same here untill someone gets liberated. It's better to inspire people than to condemn them. ?

"You can’t deny that at least some people who are on the path of drugs have big experiences, but you will see that they don’t grow, there is no transformation in the way they are. In fact, such a person never attains to Grace, he sort of retards. He never attains to any kind of fragrance. He just has big experiences to talk about, otherwise he slowly retards" ~Sadhguru That's exacly what I came to see in psychedelic users. It's really visible with a naked eye if you're open. But the thing is, psychedelic users will probably deny this untill the end of days, not wanting to see the truth of it. I know it's also very offensive and unpleasent thing to say espesially on a forum like this. My apologies. For what is worth, sadhguru mentioned that drugs are still a possibility in the end. So that should make a lot people happy here ?

@Gregory1 lol ? @Arcangelo ?

Any damn thing that moves you closer to God. But make sure it's authentic and high quality and comes from the right source and it's not some taylor swift spirituality. Only then you will see the results you're looking for. ?

You know, you're just not doing it. It's the same answer to every problem on the planet. It's the same answer all the gurus, sages, seers, prophets have been telling you about for centuries. It's the same answer in all the holy books and scriptures. You know the answer, there's only one answer and it's always the same answer, you just have to act on it and ask grace for help if you don't have the strenght needed. It will come, support will come, benefits will come, new light will come, your life will start getting better and better every day once you start doing what Christ, Buddha and all the other prophets wanted you to do. Regards and take care,

?? @Raphael lol, listen to Raptorsin, he's telling the truth. It's the only way to be authentic also. It's the answer to every descision you'll ever need. If you can be present in every situation, you will know how to act spontanuously. That is the way and wisdom of Tao. You just have to align yourself with it. If you practice being in the Now regulary, even your external situations will shift and align themselves according to Tao without you doing anything. ❤

Wow, those are real solid arguments right there by swami. I might aswell post this in here ?

50. Spirituality experts giving advice: "you don't exist", "your problems are imaginary" 51. Somebody: "my finger is hurting what can I do?" Forum: "have you tried psychedelics?"

I see, I think I can relate a little bit. There's just primordial nothingness as an ever present presence that can't be found or pointed to. That I am. That's self-realization for me. But definitely no sense of infinity or supernova galactic explosion of energy. It's just nondual nothingness beyond any quality and makes no sense whatsoever. I think the sense of infinity when people speak, they speak about an infinite mind which comes after 4th jhana, where all the telephaty and godstuff opens up. I'm not a budhhist so it's not my territory but I've heard goenka slightly talk about it in his satipatthana discourse about these things. It's also possible that you simply skipped those states and went straight to shoonya or total dissolution. Which is very possible if you followed a budhhist teaching because buddha was very clear that total dissolution is the only important thing, everything else is just a spiritual entertainment. They do this in yoga aswell. I think you'd enjoy watching this video. There's a full video on this subject in the sadhguru exclusive app but it's not available for free sorry ? Pranam ?

Hi @aetheroar Great post. When you say gods realization do you mean state of infinite love or smth? I think from a purely intelectual level there can't be anything beyond nothingness and that nothingness is your self. That's self-realization. Maybe levels of ego dissolution can be there but nothingness has no levels. I mean it's just logical, you'd have to dumb to disagree ? but states of love is a different thing. Idk if there's anyone here who could help you. If the claims you made are true, then you should know better than anybody here about these things. Regards ?❤

I think what most people fail to see is that improving your life, rising your baseline, evolving higher and higher existencially, overcoming our own stupidness on a daily basis is more important than temporary peak psychedelic experiences. Psychedelic experiences are nice, there's nothing wrong with it, but would anyone do them if it was a clear fact that they lower baseline, slow your evolution down, puts you backward? I think nobody would do them if that was the case. This shows that everybody values growth more than temporary experiences, if you're open enough to see it. The problem is there are cases where people actually benefit from them, they improve their life, rise baseline maybe, make them more loving etc. And that is wonderful. But the problem is that it only happens to few, the majority only damage themselves in ways they're not even aware of and get nothing out if it. Just a beautiful experience that makes them elated for a few days, and then drops down to the same place and become even more depressed, more broken, trying desperatly to go back to that experience to escape their problems. This leads to abuse of psychedelics, irresponsible usage, and enourmous degradation of that person and his spiritual growth. And in the end, even if you can gain positive impact from psychedelics, one thing is there's an inevitable damage to the system that normal people are usually too unaware to see because it's on a subtle level and the second thing is even if you benefit from them a somewhat, there are much better ways of achieving the same results through natural means of spirituality. If improvent of life and rising consciouness is your concern, natural systems of spirituality is a much wiser way of doing things. Psychedelics work only for a few, damages everyone without exception and the benefits that you embody into your normal state is either zero or negative or very minimal compared what you could get if you seriously invested your time and energy into a valid spiritual dicipline. And it's just not worth the trouble to get those lame results if any at all. This phylosophy only works if you understand that rising the baseline quality of your life is more important than having peak experiences. What's the point of having self-realization experience if when you come back you're still the same miserable stupid ignorant guy? Or worse, you become super arrogant and start to think you're greater than the buddha when you can't even stop masturbating like an ape, lol. (sorry)? When you see that this whole game of life is about going higher from one state to another consistently, steadily evolving higher and higher like the rest of the universe then you understand psychedelics are not as great as they seem and they have any number of problems attached to them. Nobody is against psychedelics, it's just that there are better ways of doing things, that's all, psychedelics are a poor solution to your problems that works only sometimes and for very few. Unless you know a real shaman who could guide you properly, then it's a different story altogether. I hope this didn't sound like too much of an anti-psychedelic rampage or smth? Just thought there's some value in typing this, sorry if this triggers somebody ? ❤

From what I know there are few different ways of how to end addiction. And all of involve consciouness work ? I personally can recommend doing a vipassana retreat, they will purge the hell out you. That's your highest chance to end your addictions. The practice of vipassana is oriented exacly to overcome cravings from deepest levels of the mind. I don't think there's another practice that focus on purification of the mind so much like vipassana. Idk. Another way is simply any other practice like yoga, pranayama, meditation and all that. They all work to different degrees but I think vipassana would be the highest when it comes mind purging. Cheers ❤

Haha, 40years is peanuts bro. I think as long as one is alive he can grow his consciouness until the last day of his life. Even if somebody is at the level of Jesus Christ and can resurect the dead he can still grow more and more and more. There's no end to it (probably). This is why for me adopting a spiritual dicipline and make it a part of one's life is so important. To make one's life into a constant process of growth and just grow, that's all. It doesn't even matter how far you go, simply go forward. Rise your consciouness endlessly. Like this life just keeps getting better and better, each day becomes the new best day. That's how entire existence is like, everything is just evolving higher and higher. That's how I see it, at least ? It only sounds scary, but really it happens all on its own effortlessly. In the beginning only the effort is needed to push start the process, to come to a certain state of realization and presence. After that you just sit back and enjoy the ride of life. Of course self-realization doesn't take that long, but it's also not the end of growth. ❤

@Snader @HypnoticMagician ?