Salvijus

Cringe Ups, I mean beautiful ? A beautiful cringe moment ?

@StarStruck maybe he's right. But so far he makes zero argument why two people who are abiding in deep appreciation and love cannot join together. And i don't think there will ever be a counter argument to that. Bc everyone is capable of adoration, appreciation and gratitude. And u just need two of them to catch hold of each others eyes. And Behold, god's love is upon us. We are one. Amen

I can't believe u made me watch that video ? Anyhow, i wasn't very convinced by his arguments. Actually he made no arguments. Just out of blue statements. I would still argue that it is possible to love and adore another fully while another is doing the same and and simultaneously both are in gratitude for what they receive. I don't see why that would be impossible.

I think it's possible tho. At least inside my imagination it looks doable ? it would go beyond duality. Perfect unity. Perfect blast of love in all directions.

What about if a man and woman both are in the position of adoration and the gratitude of adoration at the same time 100%.

? Okey, sorry ?

@Thought Art u probably interpreted my post as an attack on leo. It was actually about everyone here in general. Don't worry your precious Leo is safe ?

What did i say?

People think he is the problem, she is the problem. But the real problem is the triggered ego in us. That dude is what makes everything toxic.

? Yea, to be triggered is not fun. Not healthy also. These outbursts will repeat itself forever until someone move beyond their ego. Easier sayed then done tho. But still. Worth pointing out i think

I love this. I was feeling the same thing for a long time just couldn't find the words to express it. It's so triggering lol. That super inflated ego is such a toxic thing. And the only antidote is the sober real consciouness work... feels like a helpless situation by now.

The only criticism of actualized.org i would have, it's that how seemingly toxic it is. And on many levels. Which im guilty of myself aswell. But it's nothing new, nor do i expect leo to be a sage really. I like this observation. I also think that was the golden age of actualized.org. at least for me personally. I think it's because it wasn't so toxic then. Everything was sparkling with a different kind of desire and passion for spiritual growth. Or smth like that.

@Yimpa wild

Permenant god conciousness would've been nice

Lol

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this is a memoriable moment for me. The biggest consensus we've ever reached on this forum

Im saying smth else tho. Im saying distortions of experience are unavoidable as long as ego and a mental defilements are not eradicated. And only a clear mind, like a clear mirror can show u truth without any distortions. Welcome to disagree, im myself are willing to look at alternative view points. But don't just brush it off as bs and count that as a valid counter-argument ?

Yes. I implied that in my post aswell. Every experience both sober, non sober and everything in between goes through the filter of ego. Unless those lenses and all defilements are eradicated. Real truth will be veiled to some extent with those lenses. This view point can be questioned of course. Perhaps there're some exceptions to it. But so far i think it's a very solid and logical view point.

Am i allowed to say "i told u so?" ? Of course spiritual practices have value. Unlike what neo advaita says. Btw, i think u'd benefit even more if u did proper kriya/pranayama from a legit source/teacher. But congratz on the results anyways ?✌

Weird in a sense that it's unusual respone on the forum. "Unusual" is probably a better word here. Somehow it's also funny at the same time. (Don't know where that comes from) ?

The insights on psychedelics are very much possible to be false projections of the ego. One way to look at it is. Everything u see and experience is in some way filtered through the ego. So as long as you have ego u see diferenet degrees of distortions and not the truth. So by following that logic the answer becomes. Eradicate everything that is distorting your perception of reality. All mental defilements, all ego. Make the mirror clean. Then u will know the truth. That's the only logical way of knowing when your perception is truly true imo

I don't think i ever experienced a conclusion like this before on the forum. It feels so weird ?

Nice

The laws of gravity would be equivalent to the laws of god here. We should surrender to the god's gravity called love. It's when the ego-mind tries to resist and block the flow love that friction happens. And that friction is what is called suffering (in my way of seeing things.)