Salvijus

Here's an alternative view. Life is like an ocean, those who can surf are having a good time. Those who don't are being crushed by the waves. And the whole point of this physical existence in this domain is to learn to surf the waves, to learn the lessons a soul is meant to learn to overcome the misery, to rise above the ocean, to rise the conciousness above the ego-mind etc.

Aaaah... Mr nobody's? Somehow this reminds me of the days when a teacher would ask me something in the middle of the class and realization would dawn upon me that I didn't hear a single thing a teacher was speaking of ? and then I would try to answer something clever ?

My reaction to the post ?

: ) I like your self-awareness

True in most cases I would say. Sex is potentially much more intimate. However, it's possible to have an eye gaze more intimate then sex imo. It's possible to hold hands with more love and closeness then clapping two bodies into each other.

I personally thought reflecting that there's no difference between different manifestaion of love could provide some relief on this matter. Tho if i was to aim for genuine practical advice. Then only discovery of god's love in daily moment to moment awareness can liberate a person from clinginess and attachments of another person. But that's even more outlandish then my previous comment

? Okei so... if you say you agree that love can manifest in different ways. Then isn't it ridiculous that people are counting bodies and not counting every other moment of intimacy and love? People should count those aswell lol. Why is one more important then the other?

Lol. That's good one. Show what? That holding hands, an intimate eye gaze, a loving embrace is the same as sex? How am I supposed to show that... you're either get the point I'm trying to make or not lol. Maybe I could add an argument in my favor why it is so. Love and intimacy can have many expressions. Sex is only one of them. Mmmm.. so. To connect this to op's thread. If a person is counting another's body count you might as well count how many times a woman had an intimate eye gaze or a loving hug... ugh... please get what im trying to say lol. im enjoying a bit of this kind of texting I'm not offended

Uuuuh? Okey... lol

How is that connected to what I sayed? Maybe I should clarify what I meant. My point was that the act of holding hands, a loving kiss a cheek, an intimate eye gaze and sex is ultimately a different expression of the same thing. So... I struggle to see what giving up sex has to do with any of this.

Regarding the body count topic. You can realize there's really no difference between a hug, an intimate eye gaze and sex. Perhaps reflecting on it could help you find some acceptance. But most people can't handle the idea that their partner is having a funny convo with an opposite sex. Let alone the other stuff

You can only lose this attachment and clinginess if you're drinking the fullfilment and love of god directly from the source. Then the need to cling to others is gone. Then you can be fully intimate and and loving with all beings and have no attachment to anyone. It sounds nice in theory but in practice good luck ever getting there. Tho it's possible.

Wow. That's really commendable. I heard this one could be problematic...

Oooh you're reading Quran. That's a pleasent surprise. I've never read it but I believe that holy books have mysterious power to influence lifes.

Wishing for miracles eh.. what kind of miracle are u expecting to happen?

good things do happen in life tho. It is better to keep oneself open so you don't end up rejecting god's gifts of life out of grumpiness, haha.

To have no self doubt. Could be bc of competence or stupidity or enlightenment (not caring about anything)

To netherlands? Lol

@at_anchor a soul can always move towards a brighter future no matter how dark his current situation is. A proper guidence, grace and support is available to you all the time. But it's up to you to begin to say yes to it.

Sorry, I meant the highest level of good life and bliss. Not christianity. My bad.

The link I gave offers online consultations btw.

You need new beliefs. Adopt ayurveda lifestyle and tips and guidence to have a healthy body and mind. And become familiar with a holy book of some sort to have a healthy soul and spirit. Your old beliefs are not of any value imo haha. Baby steps u can do it.

That's not how it works. The brightness of your future depends on the brightness of god that you've allowed yourself to replace the darkness in you. Allowing yourself to become a willing participant in god's work of "undoing the misery" is what your real task and focus should be. If you were living by the Law of god you'd be living in a Tahiti right now, not next life. You're not going to become wise and enlightened out of nowhere just by damaging the body. The circumstances you're living right now is a clever arrangement to force you to turn your mind around for you to begin to live by the Word of god. A virtuous life that is in alignment with the Laws of Heaven and Earth. So that the Father could bless you with his inheritance that you were meant to possess but squandered it by becoming enamored with the temptations of deathful, sloghtful, riotious living.

Ayurveda is begginer friendly. It will just examine your situation from more spiritual holistic nature's point of view and give you tips and herbs how to fix your health problems. Nice and easy. Simple stuff for good life.

@Sugarcoat :)