Salvijus

I think seeing god will inevitably be a positive effect on your life. The question is, can your mind and body and psyche handle the experience? Bc if not it could be damaging. Also is there a price to pay? Such a forceful external means to have a breakthrough a likely to have consiquences And also are there better alternative ways to get there that are more natural and integral? That would be the questions i would rise for myself before doing psychedelics.

That's actually a decent opinion. Out of all the things i heard on this topic i feel it is too complex to answer it. Nobody seem to understand the subject fully, its both pros and cons side of it. And people who perhaps do, don't openly speak about it much, unfortunately. You only have your guts to rely on. Too bad it's often wrong also ? I would personly suggest to become as clean as you can and become rooted strongly in an authentic spiritual path. That way your intuition and judgement will become much clearer and sharper. You'll know if psychedelics are good for u or not then. Most people are attracted to psychedelics for very low and wrong reasons actually. They just want to masturbate on drugs or smth. ? Worst case would be to become compulsive about psychedelics without having clear unbiased judgement and self honesty that comes from strong sober spiritual discipline. Then it can suck u in and derail your life while you spend all of your time defending something you're compulsive about at all cost unwilling to see any opposite take on it. This happens to many people imo.

@something_else :)

I've just listened to the audio reccording teaching about exacly the same thing. "The world is a reflection of our subconcious" or "the world is a reflection of our unconscious inner conditions." It's a powerful message but it's hard to make it sink in and to realize its true implications and importance. And most importantly "how to change it" is a very important discussion to be had. "Ripples of energy we generate today will become our tomorrow" , hence it's important to be the presence of love rather then a blind reaction of anger or fear. Your future depends on it

That's a common experience i believe.

Lol. Yea. That's not good imo. I actually don't recommend people doing semen retention if they don’t know how to transmute the energy. It just builds up and drives u crazy. It's better do just release once in a while. Semen retention needs to be cojoined with some spiritual discipline that enables u to transmute that energy. Otherwise it sits there and beggs for expression. Sexual energy is not a passive energy. The energy wants to be expressed somehow. So u have only two options, transmute it into higher energy. Or release it. If you’re in between. You'll go crazy ? and it's a daily dicipline.

@something_else I actually believe it's healthy for avarege man to masturbate once in a while bc they don’t know how to transmute the energy. So it drives them crazy. It's better if they get rid of it to get the peace of mind. However, i feel with simple thought experiment we can see that some energy loss is definitely happening. For a spiritual seeker that becomes a waste imo.

U know the body is producing new blood cells constantly also. And usually we don't feel anything. But when a person loses some amount of blood he will become weak for some time. I think if a person loses like 50% of his blood he may die. Now imagine losing 50% of your semen what it can do ? (joking)

@something_else But then why would someone feel so exhausted after 5 releases in a row? That's very little amount of physical work. There must be leaking of energy that leaves the body in the process i would imagine. It's not a wild guess. It's very likely to be true imo.

I think most people masturbate not ouf of fun but bc they have no choice about it. They will go crazy if they don’t ? I'm not against having fun tho.

This whole semen retention thing is only for serious spiritual seekers i think. I don't think an avarge guy needs that much energy to live his daily life. He can afford to throw it left and right as he goes. Only someone who wants to transend his animal nature and make use of the available energies within to ascend to a higher possibility should look into it.

I still fail to see what's so smart about throwing energy away just to experience 3sec long tingling sensation in your body lol. I shouldn't be the only one seeing this. It's so obvious really. ?

How can u not see the difference between no fap and no shit and put them in the same box lol. ?

If u masturbate once and u feel very low, there could be some kidney problems i think. But almost anyone who masturbates for 3-5 times in a row will feel the effects of being tired. Isn't that a prove that ejaculation drains energy? And why would u waste that energy even? It's like throwing money away just for the fun of it. How is that smart? ?

Lol! ?

Love is never personal. Love is never resentful Love is never impatiant. Love is never arrogant ( nor even humble actually, it's just glorious and fantastic ) Love is never proud Love is never ashamed Love is never insecure Love is never regretful. Love is never stingy. Love is never jealous Love is never sorrow. Love is never depressed Love has no sense of lack. Love has no attachments. Love is never afraid. Love is never under any kind of threat. Love allows all things, heals all things, transmutes all things, blesses all things, extends itself infinetly into all directions. Love is your only reality. If that's your definition of enlightenment then yea, you should go for it ?

@ZGROPIUS ?

Here's another interesting take. What color are angels? Usually bright white. What do their symbolize? God's glory, light, love, holyness, blessingness etc. Where do they come from? From above, from the heavens. So basicly this white brilliant light that comes from god passes through us, blessing us, healing us, supporting us, guiding us as we are in communication with god through prayer or our heart chakra. That's basicly christianity. .... Here's the final interesting take What is the color of nothingness? Almost everybody would say black. What does black symbolize? Often it symbolizes death, void, nothingness. Where did creation start from? It started from nothingness, void, primordial womb of energy. Basicly this is buddhism. A primordial energy of existence. Zen silence cultivation. Primordial self realization. .... Summary. We have different energies in existence. We have bright white heavenly energies of light, glory and love. (Christianity) We have primordial black color force is exitence where everything comes from. Nothingness. ( buddhism, dhyanalinga, zen) We have red sexual kundalini energy (tantra, satanism, kali, occult, sorcery) Maybe there's more even. I know mantak chia is obssesed with violet light for some reason. As one of the quotes from sadhguru goes. "Creation is one light breaking into different colors like a rainbow, that's what different religions stand for."

Here's an interesting take. What does red color symbolize? Sexuality Where does sexual kundalini energy come from? From the earth into the root chakra. Red satan who lives below the earth is just a horny part of our selves, like an archetype of our psyche. When a person is deeply lost and consumed by the sexual energy, he may begin to do very ugly things to exploit others and exhibit satan-like qualities himself. Sexual energy is a tremendous energy that can be destructive but can also be a powerful catalyst for spiritual growth and what not. It depends how well can u handle it.

Lol I just take herbal tinctures that eliminate heavy metals. Easy pezy.

I think it's an equivalent to the eastern so called "left-hand path." If I had to guess it points to a certain type of energy in existence that is usually destructive. But if harnessed by an adapt yogi, these energies can be used for something good. Like lust, or anger can be called satanic energies. Yet anger or lust are very powerful and intense energies. If someone knows how to harness it without succumbing to it's influence you end up with tremendous energy that can be used for your growth bc enlightenment is just very intense level of energy in the end. It's an orthodox may of doing things that is potentially very dangerous. Bc if u fail to maintain your balance and awareness, these energies can take over you. At least that's my understanding of it. I don't know for sure.

Now that's a story! However, the story is not over. God's light & love will be the end of the story ?

Idk, the idea that a breakthrough can happen only in an intense long retreat and then u lose it afterwards and then one needs to do another intesne retreat to experience it again doesn't seem fully correct to me. I think u can also build your way gently into it. At least in my experience every day i start pretty much from where i left off yesterday and it just builds itself like a stairway. That is my experience with every technique i did. (Kriya, yoga, zen, Christ presence). All of them follow the same principle of gradually intensifying and deepening with each day. What my experience with meditation was 8years ago and how it is now, it's catastrophically different. And i never did any long intense retreats. It simply builds up gradually as u cultivate it. And it stays permenantly. All the peaks i had ever reached, all stayed as a permenant access. I'm quite confident that's the experience of all the meditators who are genuine on their path. Hoping to stirr some self reflection around this topic for people who may have different views on it. I know my direct experience is 100% legit regarding gradual growth and cultivation. Sharing my experience may help some people (Caugh, caugh, Leo.) ? to broaden their understanding of meditation further. Tcare

Serving the atonement is my new way. Hope it sticks bc i'm known for changing my mind very often ? Happy Chinese new year ?

Ahhh. poor you ?