Matteo

I think I have accumulated a lot of anger during my upbringing. My parents thought it wasn't ok to express anger, so I never did, with them and with other people also. This lead to all kind of psychological abuses from other people, because I wasn't able to communicate to them that their behaviour wasn't ok. Now I'm 25, and what's happening is this: as soon as somebody (especially people close to me) shows some kind of aggressive behaviour towards me, like sarcasm, passive aggressive sentences or plain aggressive words and attitude, I don't just get angry: I feel huge amounts of energy in my body, I start shaking, vibrating, having spasms, crying. I feel the urge either to cause physical damage to some object around me, or to scream really loud. Usually it's not appropriate in the situation to to either of those things, and at times I was able to hold myself from doing them. In the last 5 years I had this kind of reaction maybe 5 times. Usually I hang out with people who are very gentle and this problem never arises with them, but once in a while it happens that I become friend with somebody that isn't that way. This year I moved to a bigger city, away from my parent's house, and I'm living with two room mates. One of them from time to time shows sings of aggression towards me, and two days ago we had a fight and I had a huge emotional reaction. We talked a lot in the last two months about those issues, and she says that I get offended too easily and that it's difficult for her to behave naturally with me because she's afraid of hurting me. After the fight we recently had, I feel afraid and anxious in her presence, because I feel like she might attack me again at any moment. She said she will be more careful, but deep down I don't trust her on that, and I'm afraid that I'll have to not interact with her anymore and work on my anger issues on my own. The problem is amplified because we're living together, but this is going to change because in september I have to move to another house. This anger problem makes difficult for me to interpret behaviour from other people in a functional way, and to decide what is tolerable and what isn't, what's appropriate, what's disrespectful. How do I work on repressed anger and personal boundaries specifically? I'm already going to therapy, doing journaling, psychedelics. Some people suggest releasing anger daily by screaming in a pillow and hitting something, which is precisely what I feel inclined to do when the anger comes up on it's own. Thank you.

Oh god. Gotta study some retail terms that was enlightening.

Hello, my question is this: I'm familiar with what HCl 5meo is and freebase 5meo. The first one is a salt, the second one is if you want to smoke it. But I'm not familiar with something called: SKU 5-MeO-DMT. I did some research, but haven't found anything. Does anyone know what "SKU" means? Thanks.

Two days ago, I took 1 tab of 1p-LSD in the afternoon. I did it alone in my room. I wasn’t sure about the potency because the substance is two years old, and I didn’t keep it in the fridge. It still had around half of the regular potency of when I bought it. The effects on the visual field were very mild, but it had effects on thoughts, emotions and body. It made me feel some weird nausea and uncomfortableness. What was most uncomfortable was my thoughts and feelings. Similarly to a trip I did two weeks ago, I felt paranoia and agitation. There where some insights and some answers to question I had, but nothing really groundbreaking. It looks like psychedelics have the effect of exaggerating all my fears: I’m afraid that people will hurt me and manipulate me, even if they look friendly in the beginning. For some reason, I’m afraid of ghosts and entities, even though I haven’t never seen one. When I’m on psychedelics, it’s late evening and I stare outside the door of my room where there is some darkness, I feel that something or somebody may suddenly appear and terrify me. Since I started pursuing spirituality, I feel that I developed other fears that I didn’t have before. I’m afraid of solipsism, I’m afraid that spiritual teachers might mislead me, I’m afraid of misleading myself if I don’t listen to teachers and do everything by myself. I don’t know who’s biased and in which way. I’m afraid of going insane. I’m afraid that psychedelics may harm me, because I’m not in a good, stable and calm place in my life. I wanted to take them to gain some clarity, but it looks like they give me both clarity and confusion. I’m afraid that I wouldn’t be able to relate to other people anymore if I keep going, because when I’m on psychedelics I see other people as if they are hypnotized, asleep, drunk, and I fear that they will drag me into that. I’m afraid that I will never be happy, and I feel stupid for not being able after 10 years of trial and error to get to a place where I can at least say that “I’m fine”. I thought also that I may need a stronger dose. On one side I think it could be dangerous and make me insane, but on the other side I remember that when I did stronger dosages in the past, the substance was lifting me up above all fears and into love and beauty. It’s like if I don’t take enough, I get stuck in a state of increased awareness of all the shit that I have inside me, but it doesn’t go deep enough to touch that love which would heal them. The trip lasted around 10 hours, which was definitely too much for me. I didn’t feel like it was too much two years ago when I did the same substance, but I feel it’s too much for me now. My body is much more sensitive right now to what’s good for it and what isn’t, and I feel it doesn’t like 1p-LSD much. I don’t know if psychedelics are doing me any good right now. What I’m thinking about, is to wait two weeks and then do 3 grams of mushrooms, making a tea with some lemon. That should make the trip strong enough to rise above all that fear, but much shorter and manageable. I need to be completely by myself, because even if one person it’s in the house, even if not in the same room, even if I told him exactly what I’m doing, during the trip I start worrying that him might be worried about me, which usually is what’s happening. Maybe I should focus on building a solid “normal” life first. A house that doesn’t suck, an income that doesn’t come from my parents, some stable friendships, a life purpose. But maybe psychedelics can help me achieve all of those things, if used correctly. I’m confused. I came to spirituality to achieve peace and happiness, that’s what I care about. That’s because I wasn’t happy and at peace for most of my life, and that’s still not the case. Maybe I’m in the wrong place.

@StarStruck it's strange because I've done 10 trips on lsd two years ago, and I had panic just one time. why didn't all that fear came up at that time?

I feel that I don't have a choice but facing my fears if I ever want to be happy. I'm just asking myself if this is a healthy way of doing that, or if could be damaging and traumatizing. I don't really understand how "facing fears" works.

this monday, two years after I did my last 1p-lsd trip, I finally dediced to do 2 grams of home grown golden teacher mushrooms, with lemon tek. there are not many people where I live who have experience with psychedelics, and I was looking for someone to trip sit me. I found two guys on an online forum from my same city, and we met two months ago to talk about psychedelics and maybe trip sitting each other. they seemed kind people to me, and even though I don't know them very well, I had trust in them. so we met on monday to do mushrooms. I did 2 grams, the other guy (let's call him "Jack") did 1 gram and the third guy (let's call him "Bob") was the trip sitter. after three hours I was peaking. I couldn't keep my eyes closed as I whished to, so I sat on a couch with pen and paper writing down isights that I was having. Bob started talking to me, asking questions about what I was experiencing, and telling me things about his experiences, what he thinks about various subjects, and so on. he was talking to me like I was sober, like we were having a casual conversation on a regular day, but probably he didn't realize that I was tripping very hard. he was filling my head with things that I couldn't care less about in that moment, giving me a hard time focusing on the trip. He's not very good at listening, he likes talking and being listened to, that I knew even before the trip, but I dindn't know it could be a problem. I had an incredible capacity to read him in that moment, and I felt that he really needed someone listening to him and loving him, and I was just doing that. I felt like I was trip sitting him instead of the opposite. I began to see some negative and sinister emotions coming out of him, and I felt that he could be dangerous. He said he wants to do cerimonies with many people and initate them, but I felt something very narcisistic about it. I had less and less trust in him, moment by moment, and at some point he told me that he had a history of drug abuse with cocain and other drugs. he never told me that. I felt that I didn't know him at all, and I felt that he enjoys trip sitting people because it's easy for him to manipulate them while they're vulnerable. I felt that he was enjoying me being so vulnerable in that moment, and that he felt like a lion salivating in front of his pray. I began considering the possibility that he was about to abuse me or kill me. so at that point I was very busy being very loving and open with him, because I felt that he needed that. In the meanwhile I was also worried about Jack on the other side of the room, because he did just one gram and was behaving very strangely, like he was completely drunk, and Bob wasn't doing much about it. I was about to panic, but strangely I held myself togheter well. then it got worse. Jack went downstairs and came back with a glass pipe and a container with 5-Meo-DMT in it, and gave it to Bob. I knew that Bob never did 5meo. he did regular DMT a few times, but not 5meo. So he was about to smoke it for the first time in front of me, while he was trip sitting me, having no idea of what he was getting into, not realizing that I was having a bad trip and basically leaving me to myself. He could have had a panic attack, or a psychotic breakdown, or respiratory complications, or who knows what. He has no idea what 5meo is. I immediately stopped him and told him that he was making me feel very unsafe. He listened to me and didn't smoke. He got pizza instead. Jack said he came out of the trip, altough he was still behaving like a drunk person, and he called several friends on the phone, inviting them to come over. I didn't trust his friends either, because I didn't know who they were, and felt more endangered by their presence. eventually I came out of the trip and went home. altough all of those negative things, nobody killed no one and no harm was inflicted to anybody. I just had catastrophic visions of what could have happened. also I managed to realize many things about myself, to experience again the silent transmission of love radiating out of me, to consider more seriously the idea that I have invented everything that exists, and to understand deeper what is trust, and to see that I'm completely free to do whatever interests me in my life. I felt that everything that I created everything that happened that day in order to teach me a lesson about trust. I needed that lesson because I let many people abuse me in the past, because I trusted them without knowing them well. I'm not new to psychedelics, I've done 1p-lsd around 10 times with very intense trips, and some bad ones. nonetheless, this time I felt like a complete beginner and felt very naive for choosing these people without knowing almost nothing about them. I had far better trips when I was completely by myself. to sum up, here's a few practical points and some insights. this is what I think right now, it might be true for you or not: 1. beginners must trip either with someone they know and trust a lot, or with an experienced and loving trip sitter. 2. tripping is done best by yourself, unless you're with a proper shaman maybe, but it's just a guess, and it's not that easy to find one. 3. it's easy to be naive with psychdelics, even when you think you're prepared and responsable. you may discover you're not. 4. psychedelics can be brutal. It's not a path for everyone, and it's best to be gentle with yourself and honest about what you can handle and what not. 5. at this stage of tripping, set and setting are very important. even music playing in the background can change everything about the trip. I think I was able to not freak out because I choose the right background music. 6. this is a generalization, but from what I've seen, at this point of history the average psychedelic user may be somewhat irresponsable and have an history of hard drug abuse. both of those guys have that. 7. we are all looking for love. what you really want is to become love itself. 8. the reason why there are many spiritual teachers with different opinions is to allow you to not get attached to a particular idea and turn it into dogma, so that you have to find what's true for you by yourself. 9. it's important to follow your interest and your intuition, regardeless of what other people think. interest, passion, love and intuition is the compass that guides you through life. 10. mushrooms feel very toxic to me. there might be other substances and other methods of administration which are more respectful toward the body. treating the body well is very important. there are other insights, but I have pages and pages of them, and you can have your own insights if you do psychedelics.

Thank you for your words. Do you or @Leo Gura know if there is any difference between doing alcohol extraction and making tea? Making a tea looks significantly more convenient and easier. Is alcohol extraction more convenient in some way?

I don't know if it's due to dosage or the nature of the substance, but for me mushrooms don't give me any concentration power like 1P-LSD does. they're quite wobbly and more unstable that acid. With acid everything is ultra-high definition, focus is razor sharp, and they cause me less visual distortion than mushrooms.

I've recently started a concentration practice again. I've watched Leo's video about concentration, which is three years old, but I don't feel that I really understand the significance of this practice. @Leo Guraalso I would like to know if in the last three years your understanding of concentration has changed in the light of all your experiences and awakenings, and also what is the relationship between concentration and psychedelics. You guys may share your understanding of concentration, your experience with it and what it did to you.

Do you have extensive experience with both of this techniques? How are they different? Do they deliver similar results? Please share your experiences with those techniques or anything similar. Thank you.

With this post I’m sharing a little update on my journey in the last two years, with some considerations, observations, and a general overview of my path so far. I was depressed for most of my life. Traumas, abuses, and bad resilience to them most of all. I was looking for solutions to that other than the psychotherapy that I was already doing, and one day, 5 years ago, I saw the video “how to become enlightened” by Leo. Since then I’ve done all sort of things and experiments: trying many meditation and yoga techniques, doing self-inquiry for years, doing vipassana retreats, living in Sadhguru’s ashram, taking psychedelics (1P-LSD). RASA The last significant thing I’ve done is taking RASA, which is sold as a shaktipat energy transmission that is supposed to help you awaken to some degree. I took it around 20 times. I don’t really know if it had an effect on me or not, maybe on the psychological level (and even that is hard to tell), but I’m sure I haven’t had any awakenings from this. He kept saying that probably some emotional/psychological/energetic block was keeping me from experiencing the benefits of the transmission. After a while I stopped taking it because I run out of money. I would have stopped anyway, because doing things that I have no clue if they are working or not for extended periods of time while paying for it, doesn’t feel right to me. I’m becoming more and more incapable of doing faith-based practices, where after months there is no way of telling if one is making progress or just wasting time. I’ll say more about this later in this post. RASA and psychedelics: I really don’t know what to think about psychedelics. He told me that to receive RASA I had to be clean of psychedelics for at least 6 months, so I waited. This person is clearly against psychedelics, he even has a section on his website stating this: I had many people approached me regularly to give them RASA. Many of them had regularly used psychedelic or recreational drugs before. I noticed a certain patter between regular users of these drugs. Their spiritual energy is not stable. Sometimes it is hard to assess their LOC (level of consciousness). This is especially true for naive younger seekers who are probably susceptible to the drug’s influence. Any substance, which has the ability to alter your perception, is not good for you when you are aiming for LOC 1000. Why? Here's why: The problem of taking mind alternating drugs or substances is that it can create disturbance in your energetic makeup of the body. Although I have no source to back it up, my theory is that these drugs can prove too sensitive for people whose energy body is uniquely qualified for higher level of spiritual practice. If you are into self-inquiry or curious about enlightenment, then your energy body is already “subtle” enough to undertake spiritual practices. If people like you, for example, take LSD or weed, then it can create unpredictable problem in the energy body. Curiously, I once read a book where the author said that most people who see unearthly things like unicorn, fairies or elves during the influence of hallucinogenic drug are actually being from lower astral dimension. They are not as auspicious as some of the proponents of LSD claims to be. You need to understand that ultimately, enlightenment has nothing to do with being high. Not even close. Enlightenment is not a state; it is a way of being. He told me privately also that he has no experience with psychedelics, he’s never taken any. He also told me “first reach to LOC 1000, then if you still want to, take psychedelics.” (LOC 1000 is considered the highest level of consciousness in the system he’s using). Spiritual teachers and psychedelics At this point I’ve heard around 30 different perspectives about psychedelics from spiritual teachers which are not shamans, and most of them are against them with a few exceptions. I also have a little bit of experience with psychedelics myself. Yogis tend to be against them, and those who don’t condemn completely (like Neem Karoli Baba and Ozen Rajneesh) say things like “just do it once or twice”. Advaita teachers rarely talk about energy as it is referred in other traditions, so they have other justifications to be against them, like “enlightenment is not a state”. For those who are interested, the only person that I found which is supposedly able to perceive directly the human energy body, that is not against psychedelics and has extensive experience with them, is Teal Swan. I’ll write more about this if you want. Bashar (Darryl anka) also has an interesting and open perspective on them, I’ll share a videoclip of him if you want. My experience with psychedelics I’ve done 10 trips with 1P-LSD, with positive results (I never did more than two tabs). I’ve also attempted 5-Meo-DMT with no results. 10 micrograms, plugging. Probably the plugging part went wrong, or maybe too low of a dosage. While doing them, I felt that finally I was doing something very meaningful and possibly life changing. If I’m being very honest with myself, the main reason I stopped tripping is because I got scared by Sadhguru saying this: - Have you noticed that people doing psychedelics never really grow? - Psychedelics can cause damage to the energy body. - Psychedelics is not a sustainable path. If it was, I would have taken them myself. - the problem with psychedelics is what they do to you later. I had a lot of respect for him, and thinking he knew what he was talking about, in 2018 I started doing his practices, flew to India to his ashram, lived there and did almost all the courses, practicing regularly for months with no tangible results. Forgetting enlightenment for a while because of romantic love when I came back to India in October 2018 I had no clue what to do. I started giving piano lessons to a girl. I had no interest towards her in the beginning, nor did I have an interest to be in a relationship with anyone, because I thought it would slow me down spiritually. After eight months we fell in love with each other. At that time, I started taking RASA also. I was so much in love with her that my spiritual quest became really secondary. For the first time that I had the thought: “I really want to be alive, because if I wasn’t, I couldn’t be with her”. Before this happened, I was very depressed, and her felt like a miracle to me. I started thinking: “I thought I needed enlightenment to be really happy, but maybe I just need somebody to love.” I never felt that happy and fulfilled in my life. There was a problem. She was already in a 5 year long relationship with a guy, and still loved him. I hoped she would leave him, but she didn’t. She said she had no real reason to leave him because although she loved me a lot, they still loved each other. I even went to the extent of asking her to be in a polyamorous relationship, but she was afraid that her boyfriend would leave her if she proposed such a thing. 4 months ago we decided to not see each other anymore because it was too painful for her to keep cheating, lying and making his boyfriend suffer (she told him about me), and it was too painful and humiliating for me to be in that position. After that I moved to another bigger city, because I wanted to build a new, less solitary and stagnant life. I still love her, think about her every day many times and suffer, and don’t know what to do about it. Now what? I’ve been reading the forum a lot lately, and watching leo’s videos. I haven’t followed him for a while because I felt it was harming me, but now it’s different. I’m thinking a lot about psychedelics, carefully watching how he’s using them and what he’s reporting to us. I’m very tempted to start using them again, and that’s why: as I said before, I’m becoming incapable of doing practices that I don’t understand, that I don’t know whether are working or not, and I don’t like feeling so insecure and doubtful about what I’m doing all the time. (Still I’m doing them a little bit because I’ve got nothing else at the moment). I have questions, I want answers. I have confusion, I want clarity. I have pain, I want relief. I feel like psychedelics are the only thing that I’ve done that actually gives actual answers. They work, I know that, I’ve done them. They are not subtle at all. They are in your face. You don’t have to guess with them, and that makes them very attractive to me. There is even a lot of research that suggests that psychedelic mushrooms are very helpful in the treatment of depression, which is something I’m still struggling with. Nonetheless, I’m still concerned about the dangers they may imply. Leo said something like: “don’t listen to people’s advice on psychedelics if they haven’t done at least 50 trips”. I see what he’s saying, but maybe they really can cause damage or slow you down in the long run, and maybe that doesn’t take 50 trips to be seen from the outside. I met a guy once in India, he had developed kundalini syndrome by doing psychedelics. I heard Ram Dass saying that he has made a sincere attempt to awaken with LSD and failed. I heard David Hawkins saying that people use to (he doesn’t say when) prepare for one year before doing LSD, doing fasting and meditation, and then do it just once. Shamans do assist people while they’re tripping with rituals and energetic procedures, maybe if that was superfluous they wouldn’t do that. I don’t remember all the things that made me skeptical about psychedelics right now, but I’ve heard a lot of them. Even though they might be dangers, if I keep failing to find satisfying alternatives (which is the case right now), I’ll soon use them. I'm sure it would be a lot more satisfying than the things I've done till now. I wish you all good luck with your journeys. if you relate in some way to my experience, share yours. If you have experience and advices, share them. Thank you.

I have the impression that most teachers don't even know what 5-Meo-DMT is and what it does. It's not well known yet, altough it's increasing in popularity. As mankind advances, new paths are created and tested, this happens all the time. Leo is doing his own experiments on himself and seems very happy with his findings, let's see where this leads him. He might make mistakes and adjust along the way, if still possible. He might as well have discovered something important and valid, and it could be a great contribution to modern spirituality.

How was it effective for you? Did it change your level of consciousness? If so, how?

I listened to a lecture by him, he seems to have a lot of experience. He had problems reconciling the gigantic mystical states that he was experiencing because his normal life started to feel dry and insignificant, and he was just waiting to die so he could be infinity. He said he recovered from this. That's one thing that scares me, not being able to relate to normal life anymore. That was happening when I was doing psychedelics. That's why I went to sadhguru, because he was promising that through yoga your body will be able to permanently sustain those states of consciousness. I'm more interested in increasing my baseline level permanently, instead of just jumping. Some say this is best done by not jumping at all, but according to what leo says, this doesn't seem true from his perspective. Also I thought that those jumps happen anyway if you practice. It happened to me during a vipassana retreat. It happened to me on the top of a mountain for no reason. Sadhguru makes it happen on purpose during a program called Bhava Spandana. For example here he contradicts himself, because in one video he says "if you do big consciousness jumps with psychedelics, your normal life will seem to not be enough and you will suffer". But then in another article he said "with bhava Spandana we make you jump, so that you see what it's possible for you, and then you want all of it". A friend of mine did Bhava Spandana and said it was like taking mushrooms.

Thank you. I also am rapidly getting intollerant towards the spiritual nonsense.

How do you "fix this"? I did psychedelics before sadhguru, went to the ashram six months after my last trip. I got RASA one year after my last trip. Last RASA I took was one and a half year after my last trip. My "spiritual pores", if they even exist, had plenty of time to go back to normal. The RASA instructor told me I was very receptive, and said it took him one year of receiving transmissions to reach to LOC 1000. This is not what they advertise thought. They say it takes few sessions and that's it. I didn't to psychedelics that much, dosages were low and I waited two weeks, sometimes up to a month or two before doing another trip.

I've assembled a short video compilation with his views about them. People ask him about this a lot and there are too many other videos with this topic, this is just a sample, but it's enough.

I tested many meditation techniques, some of them in more depth than others. (I did two vipassana retreats and lived in sadhguru's ashram for three months, practicing several hours of yoga every day) Many teachers advertise one technique or more, and they have their own explanation on why it's supposed to work. They also have criticisms towards other teachers and techniques, which confuses me even more. I like to test things for myself and see if they work, so that I don't have to take somebody else's opinion about what to practice, what works, what is safe, what delivers results in a reasonable span of time, but in my experience I can't really tell if anything that I've done had some effect on me or not. Right now I'm very confused and overwhelmed by the quantity of instructions and techniques out there and the fact that they seem to require so much time to start delivering results. In this confusion I find almost impossible to pick one technique and stick with it. I haven't practiced regularly in months. Do you resonate with this? I don't want to just give up the whole thing, but I feel that this is what is going to happen if I don't resolve some of my confusion. You may share some techniques that really did something for you and describe your experience with them a little bit. What I'm primarily looking for is more happiness, long lasting peace and satisfaction. Also, I heard so many times the idea that I am God, I am the absolute, that reality is an infinite hallucination, that all is one, that I would love to see if this is true for myself. And possibly maintain that awareness.

@Consilience I heard about that book several times. There is even a sub Reddit dedicated to it. How long did it take for you to see results? Months ago I was doing a concentration practice suggested by Om Swami, staring at a candle for minimum 7 minutes, two times a day for 40 days. Are you referring to something similar when you talk about stabilizing the attention span? When I did this practice, I haven't noticed significant changes.

@Leo Gura I think what you're saying makes sense. I would like to interview one of those extrasensory people to know how they developed their opinion on the subject. Have you done such a thing? Have you had any occasion of meeting with an extrasensory person and have him check your body's condition? Are you interested in having this kind of feedback?

@Leo Gura I understand that someone who has no experience or not enough experience with something isn't in the position to be knoledgeable on that thing. What makes me confused is that although some of those teachers who criticize psychedelics don't have much experience with them themselves, some of them claim to be extrasensory and to see things that a normal person wouldn't normally see. Let's say some of them are genuine: If I were extrasensory and I were able to see a correlation in people's body between energy damage and psychedelic usage, I'm not sure I would start taking them myself just to see if I get damaged also. So, even though those people have no experience themselves, aren't their capacities giving some validity to their perspective?

The discussion about whether using psychedelics is appropriate or not is becoming a real problem and source of confusion for me. I have had 10 trips with psychedelics with proper settings, and I had been in Sadhguru's ashram for 3 months and did several of his programs, including kriya yoga, hatha yoga, mantra yoga, and shoonya meditation. Did a vipassana retreat, and right now I'm experimenting with shaktipat transmission. Tried many types of meditation and practices and watched thousands of youtube clips by spiritual teachers, and read many books. After all of this, still I'm not clear at all about psychedelics. Teachers have conflicting views: - Sadhguru says that they damage the energy system, and he says he has clear awareness of the layers of the body and how it works. He also says that people who do take psychedelics, don't really grow through the years. I don't know what kind of growth he's referring to. - Teal Swan seems to have a more balanced view about them. She says they can be a tool, but also they're not for everybody. She claims to be extrasensory and to perceive the human energy body, but she doesn't say anything about possible damages to that due to psychedelics usage. here's the video https://youtu.be/22O_tvfgSF0 - Jeffery Martin, which is conducing a large scale experiment about using meditation to transition people into persistent non dual awareness, says that from their data, people who did take psychedelics struggle more in his meditation program to transition into persistent non dual consciousness. - right now I'm taking shaktipat from a guy on the internet which has been trained by Ramaji. When I asked him about psychelelics, he said this: 1. if you did psychedelics you should wait at least one year before reciving shaktipat. 2. Psychedelics create disturbance in the energetic makeup of the body. 3. people who say that psychedelics are a desiderable tool, are not necessarely enlightened, even if they're shamans or if they claim to be. 4. He said "a true teacher wouldn't reccomend psychedelics". - David Hawkins says that when people did take LSD with proper preparation, they only needed to take it once or twice. Here is the video https://youtu.be/I8nrC7G96j0 - Osho talks in particular about LSD, saying that the body must undergo a long specific preparation to be chemically purified, before taking the substance. https://www.osho.com/osho-online-library/osho-talks/yoga-the-mind-lsd-2cd3f038-c8c?p=013d128bd206044530c282eb82833687 I heard other teachers saying other things, but I can't remember all the sources right now. From my perspective, what the main debate seems to be is that people who claim to have awareness of the energy body say that psychedelics can be damaging to that, and I woulnd't underestimate that statement if one's goal is not just to visit deep mystical states from time to time, but to stabilyze into a higher state permanently. On the other hand, other people seems to be very happy with what psychedelics did for them, but I don't know if these people are aware at all of sublter dimentions of their own body, and so maybe they miss where the damage is happening because they do not perceive that dimension. If there is no such thing as an energetic danger to psychedelics, why so many teachers claim that it exists? Are they just plainly lying? Seems unlikely that they're just dishonest and that they're inventing what they're saying. I don't have any awareness at all of the energy body, prana, astral body, aura, energetic makeup or anything like that, so I have no way of verifying what they're saying.

I heard Jeffery Martin saying that during his research, it came up that people who have done psychedelics struggle more when they try to transition to non-symbolic consciousness through meditation. Also I heard Sadhguru saying that big, fast drug induced expansions of consciousness are dangerous to the energy body. I have some experience with 1P-LSD and cannabis, and I never felt any energetic damage because I don't even know how such a thing looks like. It may have slowed down my awakening process, but how can we know if that is the case? I have no way of comparing how I'm progressing with how I could have been progressing if I didn't take any psychedelics. If someone has any precise informations about this subject it would be extremely valuable for me and for others with this kind of doubts. I stopped doing psychedelics because I was afraid of damaging myself, and I would start doing them again immediately if I knew what they don't slow you down.

Yesterday I went to a friend of mine to do rehearsals with our band, we are 4 members. I was feeling great and we were joking about various things while having breakfast. The main topic was picking up girls. Then, for some reasons, one of the members (a girl) started criticize me in a playful way, saying that the way I present myself would turn off girls. I wasn't concerned at all about that, because I knew that she was joking, and I was replying in a playful way also. But then she was persisting, and out of the blue I got hit by a huge feeling of shame and sadness. I felt that way the whole day, and it was awful. I was trying to understand what happened, and what I came up with is that deep down I feel like I am a worthless, arrogant human being, which deserves to suffer. I had that belief my whole life, but I thought it wasn't there anymore. I don't know how to go about this. I cannot afford therapy at the moment because as a music producer I don't earn enough because I've just got started. I'm afraid to get a regular job, because I don't think I'm capable of functioning normally in a work environment like a restaurant or a supermarket, there are too many people and I don't know how to deal with them when they behave negatively, without being overwhelmed by huge negative emotions. What can I try?