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@Teags You need to work with it for a while. There is a process called "Big Mind" based off a therapy called Voice Dialogue. This is what this technique is. I would check it out and get into it because it's a very powerful way of integrating shadow voices and energies while at the same time "making subject into object" like I suggested to you before on your last thread about seeing through the illusion of the ego. Breathing excersise are good for a temporary fixing of anxiety attacks, I have one at the beginning of my posting history from 4 weeks ago. I don't know what causes panic attacks, That's a little bit outside of my expertise. I have them sometimes in private, something triggers it, extremely toxic behaviours trigger me occasionally. But I imagine it's tied in with the nervous system. -Mal

@Natasha Beautiful insight Natasha..thanks for your presence

Listen to Sarah, She is the expert. She knows there's someone to "let go" and "resist". Or, She could just parroting what she picked up from asking her own question to another poster about 2 days ago?

Hi jes, I don't want to insult any culture here, it's not my intent to cause strife in this forum. But if you want to see how this situation is going to look in the future, look no further than your own family dynamics in order to get a feel for what your own life will be like in the future having been dictated to by your parents. It's no different here in the West for many of us. The dynamic of "inter-generational wounding" is a pervasive and unnoticed phenomena in all corners of the world. The bottom line is: People do to others what has been done to them. Awareness is seeing this pattern and breaking it. Warm Regards Mal

@charlie2dogs @charlie2dogs Bravo! I agree. The guy just sounds paranoid..

@Corte LOL Thank you for being you Unfortunately my time here has come to an end, so I'm going to pass on the invite. Who on earth would watch it anyway? Certainly not the "information gatherers" among us. Warm regards Mal

@Teags Hi there, I know what I'm about to say might not land very well. Especially in this era of New Age remedies for the plethora of "conditions" that the ego thinks it has to solve before being able to live a satisfying life. Why don't you just embrace your anxiety? Yes this sounds crazy, as we're all here trying to get rid of "low consciousness" symptoms. But I assure you that I've helped transform people who have decided to accept this one instruction. Just accept it. There's nothing you can do about it, as you have discovered already by seeing through the illusion of your controlling centre. If it helps to shift perspective consider taking the perspective of your fear. By this I mean use your imagination to identify with and as your fear as if it were a child. Look at "Teags" and look at the way she is judgemental of you and how it feels that she is trying to get rid of you. You will soon see who the real problem is. Try it, you have nothing to lose. P.S. The mind food is just mind food, it can be a hindrance or a help.

@Saarah "YOU" will never get it. Don't come back with an answer saying you "get it" because you clearly don't. You're just wasting our time by intellectualising this nonsense. Do the excersise people are spending their preciois time on here for you to have an experience. Less of the lip service responses saying you get something and actually take some effort thinking about things that matter.

@Saarah What are you talking about? "It"? You ARE the ego. When are you not ever the ego? When are you not ever you? The point is to accept whatever arises. You as the ego THINKS YOU CAN DECIDE WHAT IS GOING TO BE, OR NOT BE You think you can avoid judgement? Bullshit. What you are is not Sarah, what you are IS JUGEMENT. If youre-cognize that, you will become PAIN that judgement was trying to avoid. As you realize you are pain, and not Sarah, you realize that you are also all things, and that ,"Sarah" was the joke the cosmos was playing on you. Can somebody please do a fucking video explaining this and be done with it, because it's getting old having to go over it again and again

This line of thinking is neurotic in itself. And disappointing for such a promising candidate. What strengthens the "ego" is imagining that you have any control over this whatsoever. Face and accept judgement. And you will find that judgement is a neurotic way of avoiding pain (control). Face and accept pain (because you have no control over it) and you will find yourself in the transcendent within 3.8 seconds and laughing your ass off because you just saw how the cosmic joke was on you! It's not rocket science

@Ajax Hi Jax, Thank you for being here. You are a credit to this forum where I find nourishment and echo with the likes of you and many others. Be well and stay deep. Mal

@FindingPeace @FindingPeace HI again my friend, I was in two minds whether or not to respond to your insight. Normally I don't push a point unless I feel it's necessary, and I also avoid trying to give the impression that I'm generally "up for" debates. But I'm going to throw caution to the wind and make another comment here in response to yours. Just to clarify my first comment too as I perhaps I did not originally offer enough information. This may be helpful to you, it may not. Let's see, I hope it is helpful because this is my intent. Judgement is actually fine. It's part of what is, part of the ego, the ego, believe it or not, is a perfect expression of the divine. In my experience the ego and it's movements are best not tampered with. It's always best to co-operate with it than to fight it or try to control it. If anybody is finding their ego difficult I invite them to just sit and really accept that they are judgemental, and that who they are, what their position is, their development upto this point in time, their "cosmic address", their judgement of another person or another values system is just fine as it is. Its what is meant to be. If we practice this kind of radical acceptance of what is right now we find we come out of judgement very easily, transcend it and this allows more of reality in. This way we can transcend and integrate the opposite forces which are continually pulling us in opposite directions. As you say, judgement does compartmentalise reality, buy fighting judgement fragments the self even more. Try it, see what happens. Mal

Wow! There I was thinking the mediation might have been working for you. It's ok, nothing ceases to amaze me these days. I've seen it all before, ten a penny in a Saturday night bar-fight. Mal

Thanks for editing that. It was not great reading that to be honest. I felt bad for you. Why did you take my words that way? I was trying to be helpful. Mal

@Toby Toby, My intent was to drop an informative comment into the discussion in order to provoke some who might want to be more thorough when checking out a teacher. That's it. Don't make it into something that it isn't. Mal

Absolute truth is real. It is beyond the senses, it's what Zen calls "our Original Face". It's just not a good idea to get stuck there. Thanks again for your thoughtful replies I enjoy reading your posts. Warmly Mal

@FindingPeace Well said! Thanks for your thoughts on the subject. Mal

@Toby Hi Toby, Its only a negative comment if you don't see the value in it. But yes you're right, my comment has nothing to do with my favourite teachers. My comment is for further consideration if anybody wanted to check the credentials of these teachers, and as you seem to be pushing these guys C.V.'s to posters here I thought I'd add some food for thought. I don't l Iike or dislike any of them because I don't listen to them. So in that respect I have no opinion. Mal

Stay away from the neo-advita gurus. Papaji had a habit of churning out satsang gurus who only had a few experiences and labeled it full enlightenment. None of these guys are enlightened.

@Heart of Space @Heart of Space Dear friend, I wasn't aware of having any emotional reaction to you. I'm fine with anti-social behaviour. My comment was to help you take a look at why you feel the need to shit on everybody's kindness here. That's all. Warm regards Mal

@Ajax And Ajax, My condolences are with you. There is no need to apologize, but thank you anyway. Our play of opposites was not an antagonistic one for me Warmly Mal

@Ajax Hi Ajax, The shadow is anything that one has disowned in themselves. A crude example of the play of the opposites is when we try to identify with only the light aspects of ourselves and disown the darker aspects of the psyche. 2nd tier is a lengthy process of transcending and including the opposites of the "psychic" life. This is why 2nd tier are called the Integral stages - 1st tier is a process of increasing differentiation and 2nd tier is integration. The process of shadow integration happens at every stage long the way of developmental unfoldment. Failure to properly integrate a shadow aspect at any of the developmental fulcrums results in a "sub-self" that covertly runs a person without the person being fully aware of it. The litmus test to look for a dissociation is for us to look out at the environment for those aspects of our experience that "bother" us and re-integrate them. Mal

@Corte Well said Corte

This is dysfunctional. You're testing peoples reliability for another reason. The reason you're giving us is your rationalization. Dig deeper

Sarah, It depends on what you mean by "seeing things as they are". On the relative side of the street you want to embrace selfishness, yes because if you don't you will end up hurting yourself, the easiest way to transcend ego is to embrace it first. On the Absolute side, there is nothing arising, the manifest world is an illusion, a projection of your mind. Non-duality is understanding that the Relative domain is just the Absolute in another form. To be "enlightened" is to know that all things arise in you, and that there are in fact no beings to "save". The Bodhisattva is the one who resides in the relative to help those awaken. This is "compassion" from an enlightened perspective. Confused? Mal