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@Natasha This is not a forum. This is 'this'

@Emerald Wilkins I'm sorry, I don't understand what this means

@Heart of Space Pardon?

@Heart of Space What happened to the objective non-emotional reaction thingy? You're not "testing" me again are you?

@Emerald Wilkins There is no ultimate perspective. That's just more baloney

@Heart of Space What possible use do you think anybody would get from discussing this? It's just baloney

@DizIzMikey This

There is no here There is no now There is no inside There is no outside There is no I There is no you There is no it There is no we These things are just mental constructs There is only what's left, there is only 'this'

There is no higher and lower nature. There's not even a "my".

mmm....

@Falk There's no such thing as the now, because now would imply there is a past and future, wouldn't it?

Noooo. The reason I mentioned it, was because you had a story at the beginning: Something about "crazy" ?? But then the story turned out not to be real! Pretty cool huh?

@jes So it didn't actually make you crazy in the end? I didn't think it would

@jes Good news

How do you know this?

@Cuzzo OK, I get your point. But what I see is a big bunch of baloney assumptions based on second hand information designed probably to mislead you. From my experience, learning about something means to get rid of the old story about it and try to see it from a beginners view. I don't see any truth in these statements whatsoever. And I'm not in denial, I'm just saying that what you do seem to know about Islam is not from your own experience. I'm not trying to argue with you either, I'm attempting to help you see something important (if you want)

@Cuzzo I'm not trying to be funny here, But does trying to understand it add anything to your life? If you don't know what it's about first hand, then you can be sure that what you already know about it is nonsense...

@Falk You're never going to be enlightened. Even enlightened people are not enlightened.

@jes I'm sure it will pass

@Falk Awakening implies there is somebody to be awakened.

@Falk What awakening?

@jes OK, just to elaborate for you, the mindfulness way is getting the intellect out of the way by employing it: So when you're procrastinating use your mind and say the word "Procrastinating" And just observe yourself in action. Saying the word "procrastinating" seems to make me aware very quickly

Avoid it.

Sorry, forgot to mention horrible nasty criticizer of "no-self"

@abrakamowse Cult leader now. Jeez, what the fuck else are you people going to throw at me