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@remember Really? Well, good to know.

I don't think the virus will be that deadly, common flus kill more people every year. But, just in case, where can I get one of these bubbles?

I love his enthusiasm, a few significant quotes from the begining: "I can imagine Joe Biden up there versus Trump, stammering through a half hearted insult about how Obama would have done it better before his teeth clatter onto the ground and Trump shits himself laughing." "I can imagine Warren up there, bursting into tears after Trump calls her Pocahontas." "I can imagine Buttigieg up there, folding his hands together and trying to outsmart a monkey throwing shit at him." "I can imagine Bernie Sanders telling Trump, you listen here and he goes the fuck off because he knows he can make the quips, you saw the latest Democratic primary, he's got it. He got the fucking Fox News Town Hall audience cheering about health care and taking back our country from the elites, nobody else could have done that."

You can adapt what you say depending on the person you are talking and the situation, low stages can get very defensive or offensive in a blink. If you are yellow or above, you can sense it.

I have two questions: - What did the Amazon guy bring to god? - Was that a holy burp?

That was Leo connected to the infinite, right? The infinite through Leo, so finite, so not the infinite. But everything is already infinite. Boom!! That was my infinite finite head exploding!

Ok, that was cool!! Hey god, you around?? I'm joking, but that was profound. I can understand it conceptually, somehow, but I've not been there, not that much time at least.

I was checking if it had been sent before, but this thread is so long now... This a neat green, right? I know what oranges will say, these singers were doing if for the money or the promotion. Stop right there, maybe that's just the orange lense. Were they naive? Maybe, but this was more than 30 years ago. There is still a lot of poverty in Africa, but some places have developed a lot in the last 30 years too. Did they help? They did what they thought was best, inspiring people with a beautiful song and raise money to help, I can't criticise them for that. Africa has stages to go through yet, so the USA and Europe, which are not mainly green yet, like this song is.

An inspiring man, this is very sad...

Yeah, that was a good point above. You are not just not voting, you are also suggesting in this forum and maybe in other places that voting doesn't matter and maybe influencing other people not to do it. Maybe those will say and do the same in more places and spread your message around. So does it matter or not? You tell us.

@Dylan Page It's never one vote that wins the election, though in some cases in some countries has happened that one vote has made one politician or other, but that's not the point. What difference does it make if today you stay all day in bed being lazy, if the rest of the days of your life you act like you should? Well, nothing. But what if the next day you say the same? And the next? Then your life will start sucking. Think as voters as days in this analogy. If one voter thinks his vote does not matter and doesn't vote, won't change anything, but what if the next voter says the same? And the next? You see? Days in the year are not isolated, neither people from each other. Your attitude is not the smart one, dude. A vote in a sea of votes matters too.

What? Liberals can't manifest things by thoughts? Liberalism, whatever it is, gets cancelled. I'm going with Trump.

There is the individual perspective, where you can think one vote doesn't make a difference, kind of true mathematically speaking, but there is the social perspective, where clearly a big number of votes do make a difference. The government chosen and the policies that they will implement will affect you as an individual in the end, so move your lazy ass, pick a side and vote. A more loving approach, would you mind moving your fucking lazy ass and voting? I'm just kidding, do whatever you feel... Democracy has flaws and sometimes, most times, politicians chosen are not really good, look at Trump or Putin. But what alternative do you suggest? In dictatorships those who control the militars rule. In Kingdoms it's hereditary. Man, in democracies at least people have a say, don't underestimate that, it took us a long way to get here and a lot of good have come to us as individuals from that.

Oh yeah, Arnold is totally a manly man, Conan and the Terminator!. If Arnold can get pregnant, the rest of men are just a bunch of pussies for not doing it too!! Ok, seriously, I do think there are two genders, but also that there are middle grounds, both biologically and culturally, even in humans. Gender roles are obviously non exclusive to each genders, I think even conservatives understand that, although not much in lower stage countries, in a lot of them women don't even drive. I think we get more open about gender matters as we evolve as societies, but some approaches are too radical too accept for some people. In spiral dynamics again, cannot be told to stages below orange that there are no genders, it can be even difficult for higher stages, it is in some degree for me. There is a famous transgender YouTuber called Blaire White, she gets attacked by stage green for not accepting non binary visions, but I do think she is adding a lot of value to stages bellow orange so they accept things like transgender identities, which is fine. So greens should let her do her thing, though she does attack their visions too, in defense of them, but couldn't be other way. So people who think that some things are unique to one gender. What about man boobs?? And what about back boobs? What the fuck are those, alien boobs?

Seahorses are pussies!! Sorry...

@Bno Trump is the US president that Russia, China and other countries like those want, corrupt like them. He is also unstable, volatile and, frankly, ridiculous in some aspects. They will do all they can so he is reelected, as they did on 2016, now even more. Democrats will have to accept that, but if they catch Trump or his administration getting involved with foreign governments to interfere in the elections, like in Ukraine, that's crossing the line, it's ilegal and they cannot let him get away with that like it was nothing. The impeachment is well done, even if it won't end his presidency, it was at least the decent thing to do. Man, maybe listen to what they are telling you, you seem to be too focused in very particular things like they make the whole picture. You are sharing valid points and make a bigger whole picture, but if you insist that much, looks that you only see that. You ask for proves, I understand, but you don't always get a recording of the crime being commited, that would be easy for the detectives, right? Whatever, those are my two cents.

It is a big problem. The machines and computers do the work that years ago was done by a lot of people and this is getting further. As jobs fell in the primary sectors, there has been a lot diversification in the service, leissure and entertainment areas, which is fine, but has not made up for it. People need money to buy stuff, it's how we work, whether we like it or not. My take is simple. Share the work, let people work less and have more leissure time, we will live better and the money spend in leissure will make more money to the creators and business owners and will produce more jobs for the people. It would be a good catch 22 situation.

@SgtPepper Even herbivores can get calories and nutrients to survive from meat, as seen in your video, that doesn't mean it is the optimal diet for them, it's not and if their lifes weren't already short enough to develop diseases from that, they probably would. That could make the case for humans too, you are not proving humans need meat, only that we can eat it, which no vegan put into question. Man, thanks for the respectul vengans thing, but calling the ones that think differently from you biased... What about you? Aren't you bieased when expressing your point of view? Or are you an objective neutral judge that brings us the truth? Well, thank you. The thing is, I used to think like you, but I changed my mind after checking more information sources. I don't pretend to have the whole truth, but maybe you shouldn't either. Only meat diets are disastrous for the heart and the arteries, there is data on that. Changing to plant based prevents it, even reverses this kind of disesaes. The less meat and processed, the better. Look, eat what you want, as I will. I do eat cooked food, I love it, but it's true I eat more raw than I used to when I was omnivore. Eating raw meat can be very dangerous, there are bacterias and parasites that are neutralized when cooked or processed. Lions and wolves have different digestive systems to handle this, we don't.

@LfcCharlie4 Yeah, it's easier now. I'm surprised how many options there are available. Even in Africa, where I've been living for a few months, I did fine. I also want to add something, three years ago I went vegetarian for various months, it was solely for economic reasons. I was jobless then, had some savings but had to spend more carefully. I took from my diet the most expensive thing, meat. People say vegan is expensive, they have not really been poor, they couldn't afford meat. I saw the Joe Rogan debate between the guy that debunked "Game changers" and its director. He totally crushed him, don't miss it. I'm just going to highlight one point from that. There is a part where they are discussing about some studies that relate milk consumption with prostate cancer. Even Rogan shows a bit of concern about that and he is clearly sided against veganism. Some of them are even from the dairy industry and they show the same tendencies, of course, all that is kept from the public as much as possible, I've been drinking big amounts of milk all my life, thinking it was healthy and good for my bones. Well, my bones are as fine without it and places where they don't consume it at all, the fracture rates are lower. I repeat, lower. This is just the tip of the iceberg of what the food industry is holding. They want to make business and they are lying. Maybe I'm wrong and they are genuinly concerned about the deficiencies vegans may have. But considering the rates of nutritional disfunctions like morbid obesity in omnivores are clearly higher, how is it that they don't start from there?

Of course, do your research, the best is others have already done it and you can just check them. About plant based diets, you can check Michael Greger's work, he has a website with lots of articles and videos, nutritionfacts.org and an active YouTube channel with that name. If you are a reader, totally go for his book "How not to die". Mic the vegan is a popular YouTuber too, easy to follow, but he does back up what he says. You can check "What the health" and "Game changers" documentaries too. You can check and ask in vegan forums, like in Reddit. If you go and ask in good faith, people will answer you well, then you decide what you do. Won't tell you about ethical and environmental considerations, since you didn't ask, but they can be a good bonus too, even if your primary motivation is optimal nutrition and health.

It's true we adapt fast, in fact we do it while we are alive in some degree. But not so fast, If you take a black baby from Africa to live with a Inuit tribe, he is going to be fine, he will start wearing fur like the rest and eat the food available and survive in their culture and environment. Does it mean his ancestors and genes are adapted to wear fur and other variables in that climate? I don't think so. His skin will be darker for where they ancestors lived, not for himself, but he won't die for that. If you take an Inuit baby and bring it to an African tribe where they mostly eat plants, he is just going to dress like them and his skin is going to adapt while he is alive too, whatever his ancestors did for thousands of years. I don't want to separete humans using fire, weapons or shoes from the evolution, but there are still very intrinsic things in us that we haven't left behind. If we stop using footwear, our feet are going to be well. That would be for our digestive system too, we don't need meat, we are fine without it, but in some environments was all there was, we only needet it that context, not that we really do. We can survive very long and have children breathing the smoke of cars and other filth daily too, that doesn't make it ideal and maybe our bodies will start evolving to detoxify more efficiently in time, but I wouldn't wait for it. In evolution, what mattered most was if we could surivive long enough to have children. So if we can live long enough for that with mostly fish and meat, like the Inuits, fine by evolution. It's still healthier for them to eat more plant based though, they will live longer. Same for mammoth eating Asians and Europeans, whatever they did in the Ice Age.

Three months vegan and not going back. Belly fat gone, enegy level awesome and better mood, conscience and will power. I bought those B12 vitamin pills, started taking a bit ago, but apparently omnivores get deficient as much when tested. Heard it is found in water lentils, but have not seen them anywhere, so going with the pills. They are so cheap, a whole year supply less than 10€. I'm actually enjoying discovering new healthy foods. The other day I was buying food in the supermarket and felt like I increased the difficulty of an RPG video game, didn't see it as bad, but an enjoyable challenge. It's true we are omnivores, meaning we can eat a diverse diet, but some things are healthier than others. Well balanced plant based is much better long term and short term there's nothing wrong either. I'll get a bit into biology, we humans can't hunt as lions, tigers, leopards or wolves do. We can't compete with preys in speed and strength and our teeth and claws are no way enough to kill them, we can only do it with weapons or farming them. Our digestive system is not optimal to eat raw animals either, we need to process them with fire or other methods to avoid deadly bacterial infections. So it would be interesting to know how and when our diet came to be as it is and how we evolved as a species in relation, but we don't have a time machine unfortunatelly. Monkeys just don't prey on other big animals, that should be taken into consideration too, because they are our closest cousins. They mostly eat plants, fruits and insects and it is thought their big teeth can be to compete with other males for the females and maybe to defend themselves from dangerours predators too. The thing about the eyes in front or sides does not always apply to predator or prey, as many omnivores like to point as a prove we should eat meat. From totally plant eater monkeys with their eyes in front, to sharks in the top of the chain in the sea or totally carnivore dinosaurs, that have them in the sides, like the rex or the raptors, to mention the popular ones.

This was so funny!! This libertarians are a so naive. Of course independence and individualism are great, I love them too, but they don't connect how much collective agreements and regulations, government in one word, are involved so we have the freedom to the extent we do nowadays. Would be getting into much right now, but at this point what we need are regulations bringing some balance between big corporations and the people. Corporations are so powerful now, they are already lobbying the government all they can for their benefit and they would gladly fill any gap we left in governing. In some point, some decent people will have to get into politics and a good number of voters will have to grow from orange to green to realize they will actually have more freedom with them. We'll have to choose between giving freedom to the corporations or to taking it from them to give it to the people.

Getting away from them would be the first and best move. If not possible, they'll only stop when their actions have negative consecuences for them. Might be fighting back verbally or physically, reporting them, exposing them or anything like that. Of course, you gotta assess how this response will affect you too. You may get some wounds or difficult moments, but if the bully stops, it was worth it. But you could get into an escalation cycle too, that would be pretty bad. If your bully is a psycho, not recommended to fight back, get away from him. In the end, every case has to be considered on it's own.

@Bno Tulsi is growing fine on me too. I don't prioritize identity politics, but I acknowledge that it can have some influence and maybe even value too, she could be a nice first woman president. It took Bernie a long time to get where he is now, a bit late to be honest, but Gabbard is young, speaks well and may have a future. I'd like that.