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It's said that Tyler was in a relationship with his roommate called Lance, who is said to be in early stages of transitioning to female. I haven't seen much evidence about this relationship, apart from the text messages, and none that this roommate was a transgender, but it could be. In this case, as the text messages show, the motivation would be to act against someone who would be spreading hate against trans people and kill him. Although the messages are doubtful for me and many, but it's all we've got. Tyler was not part of any leftist group, neither even online that we know of. Neither any trans activism group, and it would be unfair to put this violent act on any of these groups, or on his trans partner for the matter, as he took this decision on his own. Trans activists advocate for acceptance, never for violent acts like this one. Leftist groups advocate for things like affordable housing, fair wages, and universal healthcare, and not by violent means. The implication should be two. One to tone down a bit the differences, which won't happen. Two to take more gun control measures, because for this to happen the culture of easy access to the weapons was a necessary factor, which won't happen either. There's no way to justify this murder, that should be said clearly. Kirk had his ideas, some could be perceived as hateful, but he had the right to express them, and the right to live, most importantly.

From what I understand, awakening within religion is not impossible, and for some people, it could be the recommended way due to their culture, upbringing, and even personality. I would say historically religious people like priests, monks, nuns, imams, or rabbis have probably been more likely to have awakening experiences than the common people. But a religious awakening would be a framed awakening, influenced and understood from certain perspectives that may not be awaken themselves. For example, there is Saint Teresa, a nun from the Catholic church, who had some kind of mystical experience in which she connected with God, she could only interpret that she had connected with the Christian God, and that's what she said. If that was an awakening moment, which I'm not sure, but from the descriptions, it could have been. So I don't see Islam being that different from other religions in this regard. What I think is that both Jesus and Mohamad had deep enlightening experiences, but they didn't have a global understanding of the world, history and civilizations that we now have, so they framed their awakenings into religions and books. I'm not knowledgeable in the Koran, but I've heard some Muslims say that it's not always clear which parts were the ones that Mohamed took from God, and which came more from himself, his experiences, and context.

A video of the timeline and scrutiny of many of the things that have been said.

The confession texts between the guy and his partner are weird for two reasons, as it's been pointed out online. They are extremely convenient for the FBI, all they needed is written there, and it doesn't sound natural. Can't say anything further than this, but it has to be acknowledged. There's a balance in not being conspiratorial, and swallowing anything that is put in front of our faces.

The devastation in Gaza may be even higher than what's reported. https://www.thecanary.co/skwawkbox/2025/09/12/gaza-death-toll-lancet/

This is from Kirk's YouTube channel, his last interview with Ben Shapiro uploaded a week ago. His turn on Israel was real, he was starting to be more critical about it, and drawing a line between America and Israel. He asked Shapiro questions about the ethnic cleansing of Gaza and the limits of journalism in America when talking about Israel. This doesn't mean Israel is behind his death, the evidence now points that it was the lone wolf Tyler Robinson who did it.

At this point, with all the information we've got, it seems clear that it was this Tyler Robinson, who acted like a lone wolf. For those who say he wasn't carrying a rifle in the roof footage, look again. He rests it for a bit on the roof before the jump, then again in the middle, and he is holding it when he hits the floor, his hands are not free. The analysis of the movement of the body and head after the shot, which says that it was from somewhere else, I don't think that's clear enough. The text messages that have been made public are pretty much a confession. The boy wasn't really that involved in politics, neither in the left nor the right. He seems like a normal guy mostly, but obviously what he did was not. How did he get to the point of thinking it was? The gun culture he absorbed since childhood, and access to it that day was a factor, no doubt. I think there needs to be more pedagogy on human rights everywhere, with the right to live on top. Apart from more gun control.

@Socrates I'll add this to your compilation.

For start there's more evidence pointing to the fact that Tyler Robinson was a rightwing Groyper than a leftist. The inscriptions of the bullets are video game references that he used to play online. His family is all MAGA right-wing, and there are pictures of him dressed as Pepe the frog or himself on Trump. About leftists debating, Hasan Piker was scheduled to debate Charlie Kirk in a few days I think this month, that won't happen obviously. Destiny has been a debate-lord for ages. Cenk Uygur and Sam Seder have recently debated several right-wingers simultaneously in Jubilee. Many leftists have been on Morgan Pierce's shitty debate program, including the mentioned Piker and Uygur, and also Ana Kasparian, Owen Jones, and many other lesser-known, debating about the Palestinian conflict mostly. So it's not like you paint it at all. What progressive leftists don't have is right-wing organizations funded by kleptocratic litch corporations pouring money into them like Charlie Kirk had for all his career, and others like Shapiro, Crowder, or Candace Owens have too. Leftists mostly aspire to get some revenue from YouTube and donations from Patreon subscribers.

Some Hollywood stars speaking out.

Very clarifying. Seems that Tyler Robinson wasn't a leftist, but more to the right on the spectrum than Charlie Kirk, more in line with proud white nationalists like Nick Fuentes. Grew up in a MAGA family, with a fixation on weapons, and was taught to use them since he was a child. The right-wingers who wanted to go to war against the left, now they shut up. They don't want to go to war against the so-called Groypers, very consistent, as they usually are. Charlie Kirk, I'm sorry he was killed, but I'm going to mention that he himself said that a number of deaths per year was a worthy price to pay to protect the Second Amendment and the right to bear arms. Not even capable of conceding an inch on reasonable gun control measures. Now he is one of these numbers, he paid that price in person.

This is it. It's quite a sophisticated attack, and showcases a well-trained sniper, and a thought-out attack-escape plan. Trump has already blamed the radical left, as he calls it. Well, you can point to the left in general as the primary ideological opposition of Kirk, but the attack itself points more to the right, which is usually more in line and favor of this kind of weapons. So it's not clear for me, and I don't think they'll catch the shooter, as they probably planned the escape well, but we'll see. It's good there's footage of the sniper that fast, at least we know how it happened.

Awful. The world of politics is confrontational by nature, but gun shooting is another level, unacceptable. How to stop it? I don't know, any dumbfuck can access a gun in the US. My condolences to his followers. This sucks.

Yeah, it's true. It's nearly impossible to reason about anything. Trump embodies very well how unreasonable politics has become there. There is a lot of good in the US, but right now it's buried under this thick cape of nonsense. It can get worse, I'm not very optimistic.

Some Americans, in part pushed by the NRA and other weapon lobbies, have made gun ownership part of their identity. There's also the Second Amendment, which is flawed, because who says weapon owners are going to go against a theoretical authoritarian regime? I would say it's more likely the opposite, that they would support one like that, or that they would use their weapons against a legit one. There's also the factor that with so many weapons, insecurity rises, and more people who wouldn't have gotten a gun in normal circumstances, get them, worsening the cycle. It's also a factor in police brutality, most of them are paranoid as anyone can pull a gun out of nowhere, so they are trigger-easy. So it's a fucked up situation. Heavy regulation would solve the problem in a few years, but I don't see this happening for some of the things I listed before. Some light regulations and things like background checks could definitely reduce the problem. That's possible, but Democrats will have to do it. Many Republican Karens and Kevins will whine like the spoiled children they are... So what? Let them, but do it.

Indeed, and they blame Hamas, which the word disproportionate doesn't even cover what they are doing in Gaza. But in the West Bank, there is no Hamas, and the violence is constant from the settler terrorists and the IDF itself. From just a few days ago, three settlers entered an old man's piece of land with their guns, the man tried to stop them, and they ended up shooting his leg. The IDF came and they settlers left freely, but the old man's son was the one detained. The old man lost his leg. Also the assassination of I think it was the cameraman of the documentary, No other land, that won the Oscar. I didn't find any good video, but here is one that show the the shooter and the victim. These are just two recent examples of what the Palestinians are dealing with. There's no Israel defending itself, there's Israel constantly attacking to steal the land from the indigenous inhabitants as the final objective, Gaza and the West Bank, with different tactics.

Sharp guy and well spoken, keeps a tight track of the conflict and Israel's lies. Worth listening to now and in the future.

Not Jews, Zionists. There are so many antizionist Jews around the world who oppose and denounce the atrocities that Israel is and has been committing against the Palestinians and neighboring countries. Zionist civilians, although they support the genocide, have to be protected too. Now, the IDF soldiers and Zionist politicians who have made the decisions should be prosecuted by an international court for their war crimes and crimes against humanity.

I'm not here to defend Russian democracy as flawless, but the last presidential election in 2024 showed a big support for Putin's operations in Ukraine, which was the most important issue people were voting for. His support has increased since the previous one. One of the first things Zelenksy did when the war started was prohibit political parties that represented Russo-Ukrainians and also the leftwing ones, I saw some footage of political leaders being lynched, tied to posts, and things like that. Ukraine is a de facto dictatorship, with Zelensky as visible head and the extreme ultra-right-wing nationalist factions of Ukraine in military power, even if they are not the majority. They are kidnapping men to send them to the frontline to die in vain, which obviously they don't want. People can't speak up against the war, there are reports of people being arrested for criticizing the war in their daily life, not to mention doing it publicly. But everything is fine because they are at war for you guys. Zelensky can hold elections at the moment he decides to and see if the people of Ukraine still want to continue this suicidal path, besides his legal term has ended.

I pointed two things specifically, the battlefield and the economy. I've seen you addressing them, your assessments are wishful thinking for the future, but not based in the reality but go on. Russia keeps advancing and stopping any Ukrainian offensive attempt and it has wonderful relations with so many big, medium, and small countries to maintain its economy immune to any Western sanctions. They reduced their dependency on the dollar-based trade system as a bonus.

Sometimes they do, Russia just had them. Ukraine could have them too, to the extent they control. The East parts were the most Russian-friendly ones in voting, so in a sense, he would have an advantage having to exclude the other side of the frontline. However, he knows he would lose them to any candidate offering a negotiated route with Russia, that's the main reason he won't have them. But okay, let's say exceptional circumstances can justify exceptional measures. I feel sorry for the Ukrainians though, all this is suicidal for them, they never had a chance to win. The Western countries are okay with losing some cash on this, but Ukraine is putting the bodies. You many times accuse others of falling into propaganda, but you are the one who does that, can't even admit the reality of the battlefield. Also the Russian economy collapse is total bullshit.

Especially the ones whose leaders know they are going to lose them. In this case, for prefering a negotiated but inevitable outcome instead of the certain death of their men for a lost cause against a more powerful army.

Man, I saw Zelensky sucking up to Trump, he said 'thank you' so many times in the begining. He wore a suit, he said he wouldn't until the war was over, and it is not over. Whatever, that's not important, but said it is. I don't think they would have ever needed to be so submissive to Russia if he had worked towards a mutual respect and commercial alliance with them, which is what he campaigned for, instead of opening the gates to its big neighbour's military enemy, NATO. I will give a point to Zelensky for the dart of telling Trump he would like to have a country with no elections, like his own. Good one! There is no ceasefire, obviously, why would Russia stop a fight that is winning to give its rival a chance to rest, regroup, and rebuild its army? Would Ukraine propose a ceasefire if it was advancing to the 91 borders? Well, no. Trump acting like he's a neutral party in this conflict is ridiculous though, as the USA is the main power of NATO, and he bragged about arming Ukraine more than Obama did in his first term personally. NATO won't win this war, so it won't be setting any security guarantees, any less by arming what's left of Ukraine. This is one of the main reasons that started the war. Losing a war brings many bad pills to swallow. If they want to continue, they can, and the fight will continue, but they risk an even worse outcome, as time has shown during these three and a half years.

I saw this video, and it reminded me of this thread. Maybe the Democratic Party needs some identity politics in this direction, pandering to men who also need to see masculine figures fighting for positions of power on the left. His main message is clear, the wealth-hoarding oligarchy is the cause of the problems that the working class is facing. As a bonus, stop spending on foreign wars, opposition to the genocide in Palestine, and medicare for all. Graham Platner is a candidate for US senate, I can't say if he is going to win, it depends on his district, but if it is a swing one, he wins. There's also Gavin Newsom, I think he is making some moves thinking about 2028. To awaken the base on the left, he's gotta have something to offer them. He's not gonna win trying to outcompete the right.