charlie2dogs

i understand that you dont understand, the short answer is you are not one with nature, as you are not one with the life force within you, you said your brain was wired to be a certain way, what you really needed to say was i have been programed to be this way and it has become my belief system. you said: and how can I maintain emotional stability when I will be in front of cruelty and abuse? primarily this was what i addressed and the part about you questioning whether you should change someone, this is not to offend or criticize you.

you can help most anyone, maybe not the way you want to help, but it may be the way they want or need help, whether they have the ablility to change are not, you cant change anyone, don't waste your time thinking about it, you can only change yourself and do for others what they need or want because you choose to for whatever reason, when you begin to try to control other peoples lives you become very responsible for the outcome. nature isnt cruel at all, and nature does care, you are just not experiencing it in its natural way. emotions are not weakness, however you can allow your emotions to create major problems for you and others, if your emotions are not coming from the right place and for the right reasons and are not stable. if you have to ask this question of how to maintain emotional stability when you will be in front of cruelty and abuse, you are not ready to help them. this will come from experience and you may pay the price for it just like i did, until, you awaken to the reality of yourself, life, and those around you and i mean in a real way, not just rationalization or intellectualizing, but rather an experience as an awakened, or self realized being, when confronted with cruelty and abuse when trying to help others, you have to be very strong in most all ways, to first not see it as cruelty or abuse, but actions of a person who is hurting, in pain, misery, cant live with themselves, many want to die. until you have had to work with people who want to kill themselves because of the pain and misery they are in, and are ready to do it, when you begin to realize that you could be the thing that pushes this person over the edge, you will give a lot of thought and consideration to what you are going to do and what you are going to say, and even how you look when you do and say it. For most of you younguns as we called them, forget about saving the world right now, find the real you and work with that, it will enable you to face what arises in the moment for you to deal with, and without that, you are screwed.

you can only survive if you see the bigger picture, and work from a higher place than the human identity. you must also be able to control your emotions and mental state, if you are going to work with people who have serious problems, because if you don't and can't, you will become trapped in stress which will tear you down completely until you are not able to function. it cannot be about you, what you want or think, your agenda, you will deal with those on the level they are on as best you can, without judgement, without driving them into deeper problems and more pain. you need to gently as possible try to help them see their own self worth, raise their self esteem. this comes from over 40 years of this kind of work, and after being in icu for stress some years ago, if you cannot maintain mental clarity, and emotional stability, without becoming attached to the pain body of the one you are trying to help, it (will) end in a disaster for you and them. helping other people requires a great deal, you need to understand where they are, why they are where they are, how they got there, and try to show them another way even though they are not able to see it at the time. and most of all you need to help yourself before beginning to try to help others with serious problems, because it will present some of your biggest challenges, but if you are able, and can, the experiences may make you something other than just a human identity.

i think it is much bigger than that, did you consider that you may not change because you are not able to, just because you have an idea about what you should do, doesnt mean you have the ability to perform it. there are well over 4k post on this forum dealing with every kind of human issue, the human identity is struggling to deal with all these issues, the solution to all these problems and issues is evolution of human consciousness, and or becoming self realized. most have no concept of just how many issues they have rooted within their consciousness, you cannot overcome the human identity by dealing with individual issues, most wont be able to overcome their belief system, let alone all the rest of the issues, which most of those issues stem from a false belief system. to overcome the human identity, one must become something more than the human identity, this is the heart of the matter, and there is no other way, you can work at reading thousands of books, you can study every philosophy, you can sit at the feet of every teacher, and you can meditate forever and you may never become self realized, self realization is the only way to liberation from the human identity and all its issues, self realization isnt being taught, by all the internet guru's, mostly what is taught is personal growth, to become a better human identity, and if that is what you are seeking that is fine too, but becoming a better human isn't liberation from the human identity, it isnt overcoming all the issues hidden within your consciousness, it doesnt solve the problems of human beings. the human identity cannot accept this kind of thinking because if it does, it becomes aware that it is lost in its own nonsense, and belief system and the ego cant accept that. It is said that one master said: i have overcome the world, if it be so, he overcame his human identity, belief system, and experienced his original and true state of being as something other than the human identity.

enlightenment is a state of being, that is a way of life, not just some weird experience that could have come from any place, because of any thing that is rooted within your own consciousness.

sometimes people cry out of sadness, sometimes pain, theirs or others, sometimes at great joy, sometimes out of love, sometimes because they care so much, the sensitive and those who have a tender heart cry more easily, but that is because they are closer to the real part of themselves.

maybe its time you were on your own, you cant fix them, fix yourself,

until one becomes self realized, love is a manifestation of ego, after self realization then one becomes love as a state of being, rather than performing acts of love that please the ego and others.

ivonne, fishy has some good words there, it would be good advice to take, dont let others mess up your little world, you can make it what you want it to be.

you are not responsible for his horrible actions, drop the guilt you have carried it too long. be still, and in your mind say to yourself i am not responsible for his actions, say it until you can accept it, then see all the guilt gathered in one clenched hand, now open the hand and blow the guilt away, and dont go back to it again, it did not belong to you. i am sorry for you loss, i am sorry that you have carried this guilt all this time, with no one to help you free yourself from it. if i can be of help send me a private message.

mal there is a lot to these stories that dont add up, the bible was pretty much written by the catholic church to control humans, first they have to convince you that you are lost and then that you need to be saved and all you have to do is believe. it didnt work for me.

if there was a real jesus, it was made into religious fanaticism for the most part, and is pretty much worthless for liberating anyone, however those awakened can see the deeper meaning of some of the text.

orange you are only on this planet because of unfulfilled desires, when becoming enlightened if you choose to remain here for what ever reason you must maintain an earthly desire of some sort in order to be grounded in this dimension. suffering only happens to the human identity body. some remain to help others become self realized where possible.

have you ever seen an enlightened being tortured, i have never heard of such a thing. once a king went to a masters home and when the master didnt respond the way the king wanted, the king said, do you not know that i have the power to take your life, the master replied do you not know that i have the power to let you.

yes i think some have, and some chose to leave the planet rather than stay after enlightenment, death does not exist for an enlightened being, they have overcome death, they exist in the same state of being here absent the physical body, that they will be after leaving the body,

first of all you should realize that sex should be about experiencing pure love with another. You are not talking about that, and sex does define who and what the person is, it will plainly show where that person is. at your age you should feel happy and honored to be a virgin, you are not missing anything as most would have you believe. does giving yourself and your virginity to someone who has no appreciation of who and what you really are and has not the capability to express that pure love with you, sound appealing? for most men you will just be another conquest by someone who had no real respect for you. and if just having these experiences are all that important to you then know there will be many consequences and pain that come with it, been there, done it, paid the prices, i understand.

i remember this book, i read it many years ago. and this is what i have learned from experience since that time. one can program themselves to do many things and be many things but one cannot program themselves to be an enlightened and liberated being. if you are working on personal growth, and planning for a future, then programing can be a huge aid in that and books like this will help do that, but all of that is part of the dream, but one can only play the role of the dreamer until they awaken to the reality of who and what they are and most often there is a lot of time, inbetween, so make the best of what you can make the best of, until you are able to do more.

hi markus, the human identity will never know the truth of anything, the human identity is the illusion, the illusion cannot know truth. so in order to know the truth one must become the truth, and to become the truth one has to become something other than a human being identity body. the only thing left is consciousness, and to transition from the human being to a being of consciousness, is like being an invisible being with a set of eyeballs floating in space fully aware, fully conscious. existing only in the moment, as an observer of what takes place in that moment, without attachment, without the giving of attention. to experience the awakened consciousness as a being of consciousness and not the human identity is what enlightenment or self realization is, it is the realization and the experience of not functioning as the human identity. One teacher stated, I and the father are one, few have understood that, the term father that was used was representative of consciousness, and to be one with it is to be self realized. some have this idea that everyone is enlightened, that is nothing more than a newage theory. until the consciousness that became trapped in the illusion and forgot its true estate, has fully awakened and taken up its true state of being, it is only the illusion, what is rooted within consciousness is what is keeping one in the illusion. Many are primarily gathering information, speculating and making assumptions that end up becoming a belief, there is no room for a belief system with a self realized being. to be enlightened or self realized one must achieve a state of liberation, in that the consciousness is cleansed, and the being leaves the physical body as a liberated being, not as consciousness that is trapped in the illusion, still carrying all that has been rooted in it, and the human identity cannot cleanse the consciousness, it can only be done by functioning as a being of consciousness, as it then dissolves and flows away from the liberated being. an enlightened being must maintain at least one desire in order to remain grounded in this dimension. the experience of being a being of consciousness rather than a human being cannot be fully grasp until it happens and then the dream and illusion is over, in some teachings this is known as the transition from the third eye chakra to the crown chakra, there is no road map for this, no one can take you there, it requires complete surrender and that includes your belief system, programing, and warped perception of life and even your fictitious identity.

what is there to know?

enlightened beings wont be negative or aggressive toward the fantasies of less aware people, sometimes they will try to help you avoid the consequences they suffered, if you can hear, but they know that most often they arent heard and they remember when they couldnt hear either. what is there to be negative or aggressive about if you have overcome the identity body, with its ego and you are experiencing real joy and peace in your life. those who would do that are not enlightened.

many people are doing things that they will fail at, because they are doing them for the wrong reason, their heart is not into it, its not coming from within, its just a whim for the most part, or something someone else thinks you should do to be this or be that. relationships for the most part fail before they begin, because most of the time neither of the two getting involved is equipped to be in a meaningful relationship, most dont take real love into the relationship, they dont have it so they are seeking it in another, which generally ends in a mess. generally it is two lonely people coming together out of their loneliness to form a relationship that most of the time ends in pain. Love is a state of being not an act performed, and if you are not that state of being, then the chance of you having a successful, meaningful relationship is almost nil. love is not something you do, it is something that you are and that is what makes a successful relationship because what you do comes from a state of being. young people and older people create a world of pain for each other before they learn, and most never really get it.

the human brain is an organ, what makes it possible for the brain to function? Women are more likely be become enlightened than men, they are more suited for enlightenment, and many women who are enlightened have never gotten the recognition they deserve, not that they are looking for recognition (like men in general)

it is because you are doing these things for the wrong reason.

in visualization, you basically are creating a movie in your mind, this movie involves you, except you are the director and actor, make it bigger than what you are actually seeking, make it colorful, make it intense as possible and create as much detail as you can, its sort of like daydreaming. the two main things in visualization, the ability to see it clearly in your mind, with more and more detail, and desire behind it, those two things are a must.

you said: how is it possible for me to have a healthy relationship without feeling like I need the other person around me to be happy. it will require a change within yourself. you are functioning as the human identity right now, which is normal for most, but it has its consequences, and it appears you are familiar with consequences to some degree. many seem to think meditation is the cure for a lot of things, but its not the meditation that cures, it can be used to enable one to experience the real and deeper part of yourself, this is what meditation was meant to be, it can be used for other things, like relaxation, some even use it to program themselves, with some new program, so what you have is the identity that is already programed trying to program itself to do something else, it seems that it would be much simpler to awaken from the dream and function from the real part of us, and in doing so all the problems, pain, misery of life simply begins to flow away from oneself, and they find peace and the joy of living and doing, rather than dealing with and trying to solve millions of little problems and in the process you become able to have a relationship without attachments. unless the change occurs within it wont change without, and for most that takes time, and for most, they will live their entire life and leave the body and never have a clue about who and what they really are and have compiled yet another lifetime of quantum memory, a lot of which may hold consequences. the answer you seek is inside of you, and when you find it you will have found the cure for this and other problems.