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@SunnyNewDay @SunnyNewDay does it even matter if i keep reactiving the energy all the time will it pass away in 2 weeks time if i just try to relax on breath as i attempt to sleep every night in any position? seems like the most sane thing i can manage to do although i do freak out when the burst of energy comes

,@SunnyNewDay the belly breathing is scary it got so intense that i was able to move the energy to my legs holding my hand under my armpit anf bicep is tiring too cant i just focus on my breath instead or is it dangerous i fear reactivating like last nightf

@SunnyNewDay can you link some relaxing music

@SunnyNewDay thank you i will give this a try, ive been come forgetful due to low sleep read threar twice and forgot

from what i understand this is technically me reactivating the kundanili energy due to meditating on my breath always when im at bed? its very automated by me not sure what to do right now, i could try apunture sometime i guess will try to ground other stuff but i dont have the people to do so ;(

if i cant meditate what do i do when im on bed?@Corpus

@Rinne yes i've been trying day naps lots of them whenever i feel like shit, they do help, but i still feel somewhat tired like not fully rested but functional after them, time goes by very slowly as i check my phone from time to time

@mandyjw i think i'm getting nothing meaningful because i just refuse to let go even when it starts coming back, i try to breath and move around fighting it too much, also i can't dream since i can't fall asleep

@The Awakened Viking i don't think i broke through no, at the start of the trip i remember just dropping on the floor, could not make it to bed it was just that strong when it hit me, i started seeing some white/greyish energy, which slowly changed now i remember bits and parts of these next part i'm not sure what came before or after i remember i had no location or place no space, neither time, i remember pure blanking out but conscious then i suddenly remember all these sensations, i knew everything about this place i was in, it was very familiar, a place i have been there over and over, right now i don't know anything about it in this human state, but when i was there i was so familiar with it, like i knew everything about it and i knew how it would feel if i moved some energy and i knew some strange energy vibration like language, this doesn't make sense probably because i'm poorly translating it, like i'm not sure if it was conscious movements of my space, or was i just in the body unconscious trying to move around feeling such familiar sensations of being re birthed? however it was so shocking familiar it was so scary, not my first or last time for me to sense that, then suddenly i just became pure lungs, just 2 large soft organs, i was nothing but the lungs, not even the body or spinal cord, later on i evolved and turned into my spinal cord and eventually the mind, and i was just slowly coming into consciousness as i was breathing and breathing and breathing realizing what was going on, here i freaked out and just started fighting it breathing to stay alive didn't want this anymore just wanted to go back to mundane life, i felt more appreciation to life, the thought that came by i don't want this anymore was the moment the 5meo hit me as i was falling down unconscious too fast on the floor before reaching bed which made me not want to let go for some reason, my instinct just wanted to fight back the rest of the trip was just me sitting still on the side of my bed breathing and breathing for an hour, eventually i could walk an hour and a half later, and i went a few hours just wondering later on i tried to go to bed and you know the rest from my starting post, i would just try to spend my whole day trying to get sleep since i wasn't getting any even in the mornings, was pretty much fatigued always i think my ego or mind just wants to block away thoughts about it being illusion so it continues the illusion by blinding me more from my true nature of reality, psychologically i just keep telling my self that it's a chemical and is messing with my sensory perception as i refuse to believe what happened, my ego just has too much fear, i just will pamper it and accept it as it is, i already believe in nothing and infinity/oneness anyway, and there is no right or wrong on either path that one wants to live whether deluded or awake, just trying to keep my sanity in check for now since apparently being god is too much to handle

@OBEler there were times when i was relaxed and there were times when i was just bitching why can't i just drop pure dead asleep, i have no idea how to move out of my body, although i do notice i suddenly shake like a boom sudden shake out of no where, and i wonder what is that about, is it that my body is not allowing me to fall unconscious? or is it me re-attaching myself to my body as much as fun goes, i really just want to go back to normal mundane life and sleep like a normal person this is too much for me to handle, i was not ready, letting go is against my human nature instinct all the years of personal development and spirituality was not enough to get me ready for this, perhaps my dosage was too overwhelming

thanks guys will read through links, i'm just getting mixed up not sure what's going on if this is permanent or temporary, i'm glad it sounds like it's temporary and it shall pass at first i seem to unable to recognize what is going on since i'm not even sure if it's hppd or ptsd/mild ptsd i've been listening to some positive vibes it seems to help make me feel better over worrying about it

@Leo Gura tbh all i remember is just me trying to breath and stay calm, i just lost interest in 5meo when it knocked me unconscious i just didn't like i was losing control, i'm not terrified on the trip it's just i want to return back to everyday mundane life i was actually happy with a simple life instead of all this search for ego death hence why i'm like when does my body start to feel better, sorry for the half assed grammar i'm just too tired dont feel like doing anything edit: i do remember very familar energy like body levels like patterns on what will happen next and how it would teel, it was so familiar like a long lost memory

@Leo Gura @outlandish @zikzak would melatonin help? i feel strange whenever i lie down, i don't feel like i'm resting more of a body vibration that is annoying

still didnt sleep feeling terrible what should i do

i'm still feeling the effects of it after 24hours, how long till i feel back to normal health function? i seem to need to breath deeply when i'm lying down or else i feel off like i'm tripping

@john23 how long does it take for 5meo effects to go away? i was unable to sleep last night, i tripped at 8:00 it lasted till 9:30 i've been randomly shaking up all night every 20minutes or so, not sure if it has to do with getting cold (it's not a seizure more like the soul is leaving the body kind of) how long does this last till i feel better? i still can't fall asleep@DrMobius @Leo Gura edit my 5meo was kinda brownish/yellow probably bad quality, i used white vinegar to mix it before rectal insert

@Leo Gura dude i don't know how you let go but that shits fucking scary, kudos to you i don't think i can ever let go it just was my instinct the whole time, i guess it's too early for me, i have like 45g of shrooms in the fridge that i'm thinking of throwing away next, that's how horrible my trip was, i just don't want to trip ever again i'm glad it lastes only an hour, because i've done ibogaine and my god fucking hell that shit was even worse than 5meo it made me hate myself for 2 whole days

Had a horrible 5meo dmt trip today, I just could not let go (dose was 15mg administered rectally) I'm never doing it again, Was just fighting it for an hour straight. I threw away the rest of my 5meo after the trip. Although i do feel content strangely after the trip, I feel like I just live for the moment without wanting more or less. It's all perfect.

This is an old book written by Neville back in 1944. I'll summarize it here as i review. The book is very short as it covers 4 chapters. It's quite practical, the first chapter covers law of attraction which tells you to how you could manifest what you want by visualizing and knowing what you want. Whatever you focus on grows. Your intent/vision is crucial. 2nd chapter is about your subconscious mind before sleep, tells you take good care of it by going to sleep with positive thoughts. 3rd chapter is about prayer, believe that your wishes are granted so you feel content and at ease as you go through life. 4th is about feeling. faith is feeling, as it's your emotional response what various situations in life is what controls your overall results in life. It's a typical self help book but with a different touch as it points out that you are the god of your life, I enjoyed going through it's content, basics are always good to review from time to time. It's all about action in the end of getting results. Personally i tend to keep things simple as they are very efficient instead of complicating things. Always remember you are the god of your life and you create it at every moment. Be wise or neglect it, it's up to you, the results will eventually show, whether it's a neglected dream or a polished dream. After all you have more than unlimited time as a timeless being so it's all good anyway don't sweat it.

@melinda123 it's easier to let go when your focus isn't on something that activates the thoughts/memories/feelings of whatever will is brought forth. hence the block, from my experience when i was blocked my SO i was pretty much attached and even after a lot of time passing by, I could not heal because i kept on focusing on her, what she's doing, where is she etc etc. But the more you practice to let go instead of bringing it back up, it'll help you get over it. Practice more self love would be more optimal. Or you could just pursue him until your convinced otherwise or it may work out, it's all on you in the end, What is it that you want to experience?

life is meaningless, the meaning you put into it is what counts, on your own terms and understanding whether you cherry pick your preferences or leave them at default

@FredFred 5-Meo Oxalate is considered as freebase right? @Good-boy The irony is that the final secret boss is taking it up my ass surrendering myself before meeting god lol, universe has got some humor

@fredfred I did find it earlier, but thank you for linking Can we use also use 5meo oxalate rectally? Or only HCL form?

@Leo Gura Thank you

I've done some research although just wanted to confirm with people who have actually had experiences with it, and it's quite strange that http://wiki.tripsit.me/wiki/Quick_Guide_to_Plugging 1ml isn't even mentioned 3ml seems to be minimal up to 10ml Are you sure? have you tried it yourself? Imo i'm quite open minded hence i don't mind talking about 5meo rectal insertions, As ridiculous as it may sound to you it doesn't bother me. I have a nurse friend that mentioned i should use a rectal tube instead of an oral syringe hence the mixed advice's makes me wonder. It doesn't seem like it's as easy to figure out for me atm, but i'll eventually might figure it out after retrying some tries i guess. Just prefer to skip the trail and error process. Blessings to you all : )