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I started to appreciate humor in the attitude of spiritual teachers. If a spiritual teaching is serious it doesn't make any sense to me anymore.

I don't hate him consciously, but I feel that my personality doesn't match his personality at all. But it's alright, I can still love him.

Rali (Rayle, Ruylee?) is the most challenging teacher I have ever met. Every time I listen to him I feel like I'm gonna throw up... Yeeah, this was sarcasm and judgement. It felt goood.

Huh, okay then. I thought that you were trying to do something useful.

You're right, I skipped that line because I was in a hurry to contradict you. :)) And I still want to contradict you, so here is my second argument: reality cannot be described by mathematics because mathematics is based on logic. And the whole base of logic is the belief that contradictions don't exist. Now why would this belief be true?

Let's say that inf = 1/0. Then inf * 0 would be (1/0) * (0/1) = 0/0. This means that inf * 0 is undefined. So multiplying infinity by zero does not result in zero, because infinity is just as full as the zero is empty. But nice thinking.

@Kserkkj It affects concentration for a few hours after using it. It feels like being in love.

5-meo kills you. If you are not ready to let yourself die, then you will fight for your life and this fight can feel like hell. But it's fun to die, no biggie.

@Shin Just take some 5. If my irresponsible ass was ready for it then you are ready for it as well.

@Snick-The ThinkTank, you said it yourself that experience or experiencing is the only thing that exists. If this is the case, who is the one who takes it seriously? Life is not a joke if you believe that you are a human. But let's analyze existence. If experiencing is all that there is, then you can identify with all experiencing, or you can say that you are emptiness (no experiencing). In either case, the joke of life is that we think that we are the victims of it. Like if we were someone who can get hurt. On the level of the body it's understandable that we avoid pain, it's the normal thing to do, because we all love our bodies. But pain is not something that can hurt You. It's uncomfortable, but discomfort cannot hurt You, it is only an experience. Let's go to extremes. Even when intense pain is the only thing that you feel, you can either say that you are not an experience, or you can say that you are every experience which means that you are pain itself. So who is the one who gets hurt? And what if the body dies? Can it hurt you? Three things can happen after death: 1. you experience a different dimension of reality; 2. you become emptiness itself; 3. you become infinite (every experience that exists). In either case you just get closer to Yourself. So how can death hurt you? The joke of life is that we feel fear while we are absolutely invulnerable and invincible.

@Danielle do you do the self inquiry in English?

Well, before you told us your age, I also considered myself "pretty damn young". :))

So, you're legal, huh? Just kidding. :)) You had an enlightenment experience at the age of 18. I think you're the most interesting creature on this forum.

It requires a lot of courage to become God, to become One. You tried to surrender, but surrender in itself is a pretty vague word. What do you surrender and what do you surrender to? My feeling is that you tried to surrender only to escape hell. It is not really surrendering, it is fleeing. Surrender is not really the ideal mindset when you want to experience Oneness. Who do you surrender to when you are the only thing that exists? In your mind there was "little me" and the "huge evil Hell". Even if you are able to surrender to hell, you don't become one with it, you just become the accepting victim of it. So we see that surrender is a dead end. Let's try a different approach. Instead of the method of surrender let's use the method of courage. You don't want surrender to hell, you want to have the courage to become one with it. So your mantra should not be "Surrender", your mantra should be "Bring it on! " and pull Hell inside your hearth. Now your question could be "How do I muster this kind of courage?" And my answer is that you don't muster it. Infinite amount of courage is already available for you, you just have to let go of fear and resistance. Do you feel like if you don't resist hell you might die? Oh, yes, you will. You will definitely die. See, 5meo is not for the ego that fights for its life. If you take 5meo you have to be the God that is looking forward to death, because death is only a part of God's infinite being. As you see, you have to be crazy. You have to be willing to die, if you want to experience Infinity in all its glory. And if you want to develop this high level of craziness, you have to let go of fear and resistance.

I'm happy for you. Welcome to the club. Notify me when you have a method for going back to the experience.

@Scholar your intellect is amazingly high. I love reading your posts. And again, I think you might be right. I personally don't really care about Truth or enlightenment. But I love how meditative states feel like. I love how 5meo feels like. I love how Oneness feels like. I love how Love feels like. If I can be in ecstasy, why would I care if it's real or not? When I am infinite, it doesn't feel like I am inside my mind, it feels like I am infinite. When one wants to feel Infinity then the thought that says "it's all just inside the mind" is a blockage. So one has to release this thought to truly experience Infinity in all its glory. So to summarize: I don't use beliefs to define the Truth, I drop beliefs to feel ecstasy.

I will also join today

I like this expression. Old fat men sitting in their armchairs smoking their pipes being delusionally skeptic.

This is an interesting conversation. Let's play a bit with these thoughts. So let's say that I am Carla and I say to my self: "I understand that everything is one and I can explain it to others the most beautiful way. I understand that what I do to others I do to myself, because there is no fundamental difference between other-selves and myself. Therefore I want to help and serve others. However, I won't write a book about it to help others to evolve and learn. No, what I'm gonna do is I'm gonna lie everybody that I channeled information. And instead of explaining my understandings the most direct way I'm gonna spend months on making up a whole story about the human history and aliens and dimensions and planets and all kind of stuff. And I'm gonna do it to get money and fame. Because all is one." This is ridiculous.

See, that's the thing. Cheating is not compatible with the understanding presented in this book, I could not cheat in this scale. I would choose the "boring life" a hundred times.

Maybe you're right. All I'm saying is that it is interesting.

@OBEler do you really think that someone with such a deep understanding is capable to do this scam? I mean, this book radiates the understanding that everything is one. If the channeling was fake then the author of this book has the most interesting personality that I have ever heard of. If this was a fake, then this is far more interesting than anything that is written in the book.

@Shin, thank you, this was exactly the video I needed right now.

This is how Non-duality should be taught to programmers.

:)) I think, this is the best Programming - Non-duality joke I have ever heard! Or the only one.