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Some people do work on that. Have you tried reaching out to resources like for food and housing? The people that do those things are doing it for people exactly like you. Those people are struggling themselves, too consumed with their own problems and fears.

Every suicide breaks even strangers hearts

It hurts the rest of us if you do. Not that you owe us anything and we've obviously let you down, but it would hurt us.

It's not as bad as it seems, the inflation is temporary, this happens occasionally when you elect the village idiot. Just lay low and work on yourself however you can, just get by for now, it's hard times.

Point out how I was in bad faith. I don't believe you ever answered my question intelligibly, your answer is 'depth of morality because life is easier and less dangerous' that answers " how is the human experience truly better in terms of meaning, purpose, and connection"? I followed up with "how are we more moral"? Your reply "rape was allowed, (with zero substantiation, and zero connection to tech, and absolute ignoring our rape culture. And it's untrue). You're arguing in bad faith". Some people look at people that do dangerous and hard things as examples of lives with meaning and purpose. So how does safety and ease mean more meaning and purpose? https://ictnews.org/archive/the-power-of-cherokee-women/ "Europeans were astonished to see that Cherokee women were the equals of men—politically, economically and theologically. “Women had autonomy and sexual freedom, could obtain divorce easily, rarely experienced rape or domestic violence, worked as producers/farmers, owned their own homes and fields, possessed a cosmology that contains female supernatural figures, and had significant political and economic power,” " https://vawnet.org/sites/default/files/assets/files/2016-10/NotIndianTradition.pdf

Keep it shut down, it will crater the economy even more. Ice, fbi, military don't get paid. Either we get the healthcare stuff back, or we shut down Trump.

Do you believe most people on this forum, or even the western world, can achieve enlightenment in this era, with the current technology? Or, do we need better technology for some reason? If we don't need better technology, are you sure tribal people couldn't achieve it without our technology? I think you guys just lack a basic understanding of primitive lifestyle, you have a bastardized image of "savages" as you called them, this is just propaganda to support colonialism and imperialism.

Where was I dishonest or disingenuous, or whatever? You guys are just stuck in consumerist zombie fear. The technology must've not got to me yet to expand my morality...... should I buy the new iPhone or something? Is there a podcast you suggest?

“Jesus knows who you are. Jesus knows what you want. If you are looking for PROOF I can tell you I don’t have any, but what I do have are a very particular set of books..."

Is it more moral to not harm others, just because food is more available, to wealthy people? Poor people still kill because there are starkly dark and massive sides to this modern era. The wealthy are actually mass murdering people as we speak, by the way, the well fed and comforted, are exterminating the "dogs" as you might call them. This is the part I desire an example of, tribes are less moral? You saw the videos I posted, they didn't kill the foreigners, they enjoyed them. Where is the improvement from this? The Maxims of Ptahhotep Ptahhotep, a vizier under King Djedkare Isesi of the Fifth Dynasty (around 2375–2350 BC). "Humility and Self-Control: Emphasizing the importance of not being proud and controlling one's temper. Truth and Discourse: Advising on how to speak truthfully and engage in respectful conversation, even with those of lower status. Social Conduct: Providing guidance on behavior in the presence of superiors, how to choose a good master, and how to serve them. Kindness and Compassion: Promoting kindness towards others and avoiding envy or the spread of fear. Leadership: Offering insights into how to lead with openness and kindness.

My position isn't that it's better, but that it's not worse. I thought you were arguing that technology has made life meaningfully better. Is the " greater capacity to live virtuously" from technology? So, infant mortality rate, medicine, air conditioning, airplanes, weapons for police, grocery stores, books; that's how it's made the human experience meaningfully better, this created a "greater capacity to live virtuously"? Jordan Peterson is more virtuous? Taylor Swift? Zizek? Peterson is less virtuous in my opinion. I don't think it has given a greater capacity to live virtuously. And, are only the modern philosopher and artist more virtuous, or is my 300 pound porn addicted walmart cashier as well? Politicians? Pop icons? Is even the Pope more virtuous? I don't think so. These people have freedom in different ways, they can easily start their very own nation even, breaking off from their tribe, which some do. Would you imagine talking to these tribesman, or a modern man, would have more depth? If you could speak their language. Different video

If you believe the Bible, why aren't you acting all crazy screaming at strangers in public to repent, to save them from hell? I feel like if you all would do that, we would believe you actually believe what you say you believe. Rather than seeing you vote against welfare because you think it's a sin to tax corporations, or the church parking lot full of nice cars.

I'm only using their art to show their creativity, expression, and individualism. The artifact and painting were hunter gatherers. You essentially say people enjoy things more, have more depth of meaning. Consider a tribe watching the stars, meteors, northern lights, sunsets and rises, a storm, a long winter, a fruitfull season, a good hunt, finding new territory, seeing a new mountain range the first time, a new land, new animals and foods, seeing the ocean for the first time, or a massive forest, imagine the forests back then, new tribes, new technologies and tools, foods and cultures, wars and battles, being raided, raiding, rituals and gatherings, psychedelics, new arts and crafts, droughts, living intimately with all this, knowing your life is in your brothers hand and his in yours,.... What philosopher in the last 1,000 years compares to Pythagoras? What artist compares to Cambodian ruins? Does the modern family that doesn't speak to eachother, love eachother more than the tribe loves their people? The somelier enjoy their wine more than the tribe enjoys an exotic species from their hunt, their sons first kill? Pick your modern philosopher, they have more depth of meaning? 44,000, 5,000, 2,000 years to today, whatever you want: what meaningful difference in terms of the human experience like meaning and connection is there from technology? What's a truly meaningful thing technology has done? Different video Are you sure we have more depth of joy and meaning?

I don't compare ancient people to dogs. Look at those people's individualistic decorations and piercings. Have you seen the Mayan or Egyptian artifacts? Sumeria? The Maxims of Ptahhotep Ptahhotep, a vizier under King Djedkare Isesi of the Fifth Dynasty (around 2375–2350 BC). "Humility and Self-Control: Emphasizing the importance of not being proud and controlling one's temper. Truth and Discourse: Advising on how to speak truthfully and engage in respectful conversation, even with those of lower status. Social Conduct: Providing guidance on behavior in the presence of superiors, how to choose a good master, and how to serve them. Kindness and Compassion: Promoting kindness towards others and avoiding envy or the spread of fear. Leadership: Offering insights into how to lead with openness and kindness. "Pythagoras's philosophy emphasizes the significance of numbers, the immortality of the soul, and the interconnectedness of all things, influencing both mathematics and metaphysical thought. Overview of Pythagorean Philosophy Pythagoras (c. 570–495 BCE) " "The practice of mound building spans from the Archaic period (around 3500 BCE) through the Woodland and into the Mississippian period (up to the 16th century CE)." American Mound Builders, specifically the Hopewell culture, designed earthworks to track the 18.6-year lunar cycle, a complex astronomical event called the Major Lunar Standstill." The original Newark Earthworks complex covered over 4 1/2 square miles, or approximately 3,000 acres (1,200 ha)" Pictured Below, Figurine is 43,000 years old, painting is 33,000, the grass photo is the previously mentioned lunar mound in the U.S.

Progressives have never persecuted incestuous adult relationships that were free of abuse. You say they're biggots, post a quote of a bigoted comment about this.

I don't contend that, I contend your framing is too trivial. Consensual adult incest with birth control is perfectly fine, it's legal in some states, and I've never heard of it prosecuted elsewhere, have you? Incest that's prosecuted is from abuse.

Standard, meaning typical right? The typical lifestyle right now? What would you give as example of the typical lifestyle right now? Could you explain the meaningful difference between your example and this uncontacted tribe? Obviously difference in materialism, but is there a difference in the meaningfulness the two examples have in terms of say purpose or the meaningfulness of their life, joy, communion, connection, love? What is the ultimate goal you have for technology?

You're sharing what you think.... So, Harris should have ran more for maga issues then? Maga issues won, she should have been racist and xenophobic, and a liar, by your logic. Harris was the better candidate, Americans are just not a great electorate. You have to quit infantalizing the citizens, it's the citizens fault and these hard times will be a lesson they hopefully learn from. Who was the best candidate for democrats to run, and on what issues?

I think you're changing the subject, The Haavara Agreement was the beginning of modern Israel, it was before the Holocaust, Ashkenazi zionism and colonialism was before the Holocaust. "Zionist Association for Germany was a Zionist organisation in Germany that was formed in 1897 in Cologne by Max Bodenheimer, together with David Wolffsohn and Fabius Schach.[1] I" "Max Isidor Bodenheimer settled in Palestine in 1935." Together with Moritz Levy, David Wolffsohn and Rahel Apfel, they founded the "National-Jewish Association", from which the Zionist Association for Germany emerged in 1897.[1] In 1893 he published the pamphlet Volks- oder Salonjudenthum? Schach attended the 1st Zionist Congress in 1897 and took part in the formulation of the Basel Program.[2] Basel Program "Zionism seeks to establish a home in Palestine for the Jewish people, secured under public law.[6] To achieve this goal, the Congress envisages the following means: 1. The expedient promotion of the settlement of Jewish agriculturists, artisans, and tradesmen in Palestine. 2. The organization and bringing together of all Jews through local and general events, according to the laws of the various countries. 3. The strengthening of Jewish feeling and national consciousness. 4. Preparatory steps for obtaining the governmental approval which is necessary to the achievement of the Zionist purpose." "The Basel Program was the first manifesto of the Zionist movement, drafted between 27 and 30 August 1897 and adopted unanimously at the First Zionist Congress in Basel, Switzerland, on 30 August 1897." Even without all that, how does the Germans killing jews, justify giving the jews Palestine, taking it from Palestinians

You think Trump was a better presidential candidate than Harris? I completely dismiss your "issueless" claim.

Are you familiar with The Haavara Agreement "an agreement between Nazi Germany and Zionist organizations signed on 25 August 1933. The agreement was finalized after three months of talks by the Zionist Federation of Germany, the Anglo-Palestine Bank (under the directive of the Jewish Agency) and the economic authorities of Nazi Germany. It was a major factor in making possible the migration of approximately 60,000 German Jews to Palestine between 1933 and 1939.[1]"

You agree with him about incest?

Right, socialists and third parties barely run in small races, only big showy races. They barely do any work other than disparage democrats \/ To build a party, you have to start building, not just plan your executive suite.