The Crocodile

What did you just say to me!!?!?

If people realize Love before realizing Truth it could be disastrous.

No, my criticism of you is that you are an idiot. And now you're trying to argue your idiocy is "objectively" correct when it's objectively inaccurate and literally mentally retarded.

What insane ridiculous sophistry. You have no idea what you're talking about.

hahaha what

@Leo GuraResponding to this There is a band named ohGr by someone called Nivek Ogre, and much of the lyrics are about Truth, lies, epistemology, the meaning of life, mainstream vs. conspiracy theories, religion vs. atheism, emotions vs. intellect, consciousness, illusions, psychology, absolute vs. relative, evolution, etc. This is what it sounds like: The blue fetus represents the current undeveloped state of humanity, society is still in the womb and we are not yet evolved/awakened and are stuck in self-deception. The red animals with the illusionism setup and stage stuff like the box and the saw represents visual optical illusion as a metaphor for deception/illusion in general. A lot of the lyrics discuss the relation between object and subject and there's a song called "Subject" about this and a song called "Mind Made God". The song "collidoskope" is about illusion like light put through a kaleidoscope but it's still the mechanism or creation of the mind. He also had this earlier band:

NoSelfSelf .. he . . . he held me down . . . and he

I heard this. Apparently the tariffs could cause a food shortage in the US tantamount to a real famine. The farmers will artificially raise their prices even more, to make money proportionally by only selling a small amount of their crops.

in-dispense-able for a penis

What we are discussing here, namely "hidden capabilities in humans unlocked with psychedelics" (or without psychedelics), again, has got nothing to do with the Western intellect or Western pretense of understanding reality through intellectual and material terms whatsoever, it is in a domain of direct consciousness which is post-rational and totally unequivocally recontextualizes what the rational and pre-rational (and incomplete or partially deviated post-rational) even are--setting them on the planes of reality where they belong. It is a matter of higher perception and overall higher consciousness, not higher meager human-type cognition, but seeing the mechanics of reality and the reality system as it actually is. We are perceivers. To deal your ego away, there is a disgusting strain of pseudointellectualism on this forum where you (and user Nilsi) have no actual regard for truths or Truth and simply want to self-aggrandize by appearing as cool, badass, well-rounded philosopher-gods who can hold their own against anybody in any field of development. You are closer to the Absolute, Nilsi is also a valid expression of the Absolute's power because he is less so about the intellect per se and more about his own vitality and greatness, whereas your samurai perspectival development and integral badassery are less vital and more mental, less caring about human academia and more so the high end of what logic is and what it can do. Yet all of this is folly and vanity unless both of you knock it off, burn off your egos, and use your powers for good rather than for arbitrary self-assertion and -aggrandizement in the form of arrogance, posturing, and pretense. Now that we have certainly got the introductions out of the way, a legitimately notable instance of telepathy that would be self-evident in having notability and uniqueness would be if you went to a thought-reader and were asked to speak five questions internally, in your internal dialogue. The questions are what is to be noted, the answers. You ask, "What is the color of a rubber duck?" "Which town was this candle manufactured in?" "What ocean is on the West of America?" "How to scientifically explicate a cloud formation?" "What is the definition of telempathy?" The thought-reader without you speaking out loud successfully writes all of this down word for word on a piece of paper and hands it to you, verifiable and verified proof. In contrast, ordinary non-unique telepathy experiences that everybody has include reading single words or a few words from somebody's head in non-repeatable ways, or reading an abstract thought or general mental tendency or, even to say, "vibe" orientation from somebody's head or mental atmosphere, which is not unique and not notable at all except inasmuch as human organisms ARE telepathic naturally or privy to it by nature of being consciousnesses existing together in an open system where thoughts (and thoughts of others) are logically linked and linked by the emanation of what they are, their relations to other subjects and objects and energies within the open system. Your telepathy experiences you mentioned, are in most certainty, of this second variety and not the coveted first variety. My statement you interpreted as an affront to how obviously brilliant and amazing you are, '"Alien intelligence" is vague and Leo would say your alien intelligence awakening is incomplete,' is literally true and totally indisputable. Your response of "You still have a linear (1D) view of awakenings as if there were achievements to be unlocked. The space of minds is infinite-dimensional, including various types and degrees of intelligence," is literally just wrong and ironic in so much as you are a pseudo-materialist, and think there is truth in, what is it, Wilber's right hand quadrants? and inasmuch as you were just stating your mental interpretation of what Leo's alien experience is and that there can be multiple and even infinite varieties of alien experiences, which is true--yet my statement you had not experienced any remains true. When you say, "You are falling squarely within the pre/post fallacy. It is pretty clear you are at the Green/ new age," it is clear you have not genuinely thought about any of this and are repeating Leonian-Wilberian garbage, which of course has deep profundity in it (the Leo part). Wilber is a shit cereal box version of Sri Aurobindo and con artist. It is not clear that I am at Green / new age, since Green / new age do not have any understanding or experience of such "electromagnetism" except through pretending, through drugs, or through even rarer exception. Talking about rarer exception I am thinking of someone I knew named John who was in cognition a typical MAGA or QAnon idiot, but because he incarnated here from a different planet he had natural telepathic abilities which were developed with ease through occult practice taught by a Rosicrucian-Taoist, and even gained the ability to bend tinfoil remotely yet never developed it further. He had enough of a development of certain perceptual and energetic faculties to have an expanded view of time as time relates to energy and how reality is all the Mind, nonlinearity of reality, abstraction, and other amazing, amazing stuff . . . but was cognitively impaired. Yet he still knew the importance of mental faculty and higher principles organizing reality, and conceptual ideas, archetypes, and processes as polarity and balance, doing infinitesimal visualizations of white light into his center of mass to try to achieve longevity, but was still inferior enough to not know "trump bad". You on the other are rather the reverse, enamored with the intellect and the reason, thinking it holds a particular importance it does not have, spuriously justifying this because it is the focal point of the fifth color of a limited overly simplistic psychological model adapted by spiritual teachers Wilber and Gura. This leads us to address your original, let us say, "objections". Your hesitancy, because of the modernity and rationality of your mind, is understandable, but not at all justifiable, given that obviously EVEN IN THE CONTEXT OF MATERIALISTIC SCIENCE psychedelic visuals are electromagnetic, as is everything else in the universe, including visible light in its place on the electromagnetic spectrum. From a post-rational view, (ie. Leo's video "Why Brains Do Not Exist") we know the brain for most people is merely a vague tactile sensation within the skull or if one cuts open a skull then a visual view of another's, or an image on a screen, a memory of an image on a screen, a thought, a belief, a visualization, a remote view or vision or other emanative connection to the object in question. The object in question as people think of it simply does not exist. Likewise your visual field is not *in your brain* or *in your eyes*, it is literally and not in the slightest metaphorically in front of both your physical eyes and brain, your physical eyes and physical brain simply have an energetic or emanative connection to them which is nonlinear. That is to say, not only is materialism wrong, ALL OF THE LOGICAL CONCLUSIONS OF MATERIALISM ARE . . . also wrong. If we admit an energetic field that extends outside the bubble of consciousness, and surely it exists, it is an infinitely extended continuum which is immaterial. Ie. the brain does not think, the mind thinks, and exists on a mental continuum. Desires and other subtle sensations in the body and mind come from the nervous world. The energy that enters the nerves comes from an external environment. Same with thoughts, they come from an external mental environment. Everything that appears to you exists prior to its appearance, principially and energetically they have an existence of actuality before they are presented to you, and exist in an interactive system which is wholly nonphysical, not physical at all. The tactile sensation of the brain or the physical visual sensation, goes down into another plane which you could call the "subtle physical", but that is not any more emanationally fundamental than the mind, the vitality, or the spirit. Of course all of this is too complex, too beyond people's tiny perceptions and micro physical consciousnesses, for laypeople and scientists (scientists who in the end are just believers or practitioners of a highly specialized highly deluded faith in intellectual pretension as replacement for actual perception of reality). It is a great mistake to think one lives only physically.

You're just assuming this for no reason. Literally nothing to do with what we're talking about. No, it isn't. You are an imbecile. No, it isn't. You literally think that all of materialism is true and all of its logical conclusions are true with the caveat that it's actually just Consciousness which is responsible for materialism. Then in all likelihood you're literally just lying, unless you could recount the tales.

blah blah blah blah bl;ah First of all, everybody has had telepathy and premonition-type experiences. Unless you mean being able to read whole entire sentences from somebody's mind, which you can't do. "Alien intelligence" is vague and Leo would say your alien intelligence awakening is incomplete. I don't think you're Western but there's definitely too much Westernized "reason" and Europeanized "logic" in how you (and even Leo) think about things, as not just is reality Consciousness but actually materialism as a whole is wrong.

You can see electromagnetism without psychedelics. Even tinnitus is electromagnetism. Everything is electromagnetism. If you're seeing the electricity in the form of vital lights and patterns and figures and more vivid indescribable stuff that goes way above normal consciousness it will affect the tactile field too. So you'll have a nonvisual nonspatial force affecting both the tactile and the visual field, or the auditory field and the visual field will be vibrating at the same rate.

You could say the relationship between "God" and "logic" is both Godly and logical.

Slaughtering up the Russians right and proper

He should have at least spat in face. And if he could reach J.D. him too.

Guraa

what a fucking worm

You can literally become a bird through supernatural means, or when you die you can ask to be reincarnated as a bird. But the point was that if bird is the ideal you can move closer to it from your current position. Another thing could be if someone has the fantasy of turning into a vampire, Leo might say, "That's just a fantasy, not truth, let it go." I might say that well, you could get closer to being a vampire by filing your teeth to sharpen them, wearing darker clothes, staying in a dark basement all day to avoid the sunlight and have a pale complexion, and then kidnap people and animals and drink their blood. You could even workout, lift lots of weights, run, and do other physical exercises to have an extremely fit vampiric physique so that you can jump and twist and zoom in and out of dark places at will. It's easily possible to do this in this physical reality, it's not impossible at all

The Russian army should be slaughtered down to the last 18-year-old to protect a single inch of Ukrainian land. The Ukrainians did need more resources, in fact the US should have just threatened war with Russia to begin with to prevent the invasion. Zelenskyy should have slapped and spat on trump.

You could use paranormal means to become a bird through shapeshifting like don Juan, so this isn't true. Or you could use makeup, fashion, style, feather and wing and beak accessories, and personality to become more birdlike, at the very least. You could even get surgery to avianize your face. You could write poetry and paint paintings of birds. You could learn to paraglide.

@Leo Gura Here's the problem I'm having. It may very well be the case (according to the problem I'm having) that mechanical intelligence and stuff dealing with thinking of mechanical stuff with a particular concreteness of thought is more accomplishing than, say, something which is infinitely more complex but less dense as a unit (such as Nothingness or other abstract planes). For example I could experience electrical bliss and ecstasy in the body and see into other realms which are very complex and have real overlap with this reality, and there's apparent infinite intelligence there, and I could get everything I've ever wanted. But I still may have issue understanding how bridges are built. On the face of it this could be terrible advice. Most of your fantasies ideally wouldn't be consigned to fantasy, they would be acted on.

@Leo Gura You say all this and yet I don't think you would be able to understand all the mechanics in a car engine or how bridges and stuff are assembled down to the last fastener or how engineering and machine interactions and logic work exactly. So could you go into the relationship between that sort of exact intelligence and then the graceful intelligence where everything works out naturally, where the difference or sameness lies naturally?

You didn't make any arguments. And the content of Leo's blog has nothing to do with any of what you said, considering you don't remember or understand what the content was.

No, you didn't understand Leo's new things. It's objective.