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This is beautiful!!!! Thanks for the insight

But it was drug induced. Why would you want it to not be associated with what it is. You took a drug and experienced something thanks to that drug. I dont know... I don't think that by the Jesus saying "To enter the kingdom of Heaven you have to be as a child" is meant to start experimenting with drugs. I'm pretty sure that taking drugs is neither necessary nor helpful to finding Truth, no matter what you all say (including Leo). Drugs give you a view of heaven from the window. You are trying to infiltrate truth forcefully. You are trying to "win the race" and "know the truth before the other sheep". Oh well, tell me more about what reality is.

That's because when you don't know you're dreaming you don't know there are no consequences to your actions. In reality, there are consequences. Also if you don't know you're dreaming you cant really change things at the snap of a finger like if you are lucid. I do not believe there are people who are "lucid" in real life in the way one can be in a dream. Until i see someone flying or creating food from thin air, i will be sceptic.

Last night there was a period of time in which I was in a state of semi-lucidity and what I heard was something like a choir of very soft angelic voices... It was like I was listening to one of those binaural beats, but while asleep. Anyone else had something like this? It felt really 'spiritual'. Is this really for real or do you think it's just another dream. Angels are real?? Heaven is real?? O_o

In dreams you arent going to get judged for what you do, so feeling anxiety makes no sense. I went naked in public in my lucid dream last night. Very liberating. In real life they would call police on me and laugh their ass off pointing at my weird body.

Nah, people in this world can be down right rude and dismissive. If you go up to someone they might make you feel regret for doing so. I've tried convos like that, usually ends in "Ok wtf do you want?" Maybe it's just England. Dream characters are probably not depressed and negative individuals, because they dont have a entire life of suffering behind them. Lol

Omg I only now remembered I went lucid last night before this angelic dream. I was doing all those fun things and contemplating whether I should do some meditation. It was so fun because the new set of hands and legs felt automatic at first, but as I gained lucidity it was like they became more and more free to control as I wish. I remember I jumped on top of a bunch of flowers and then got naked in public "just cuz" hahahaah!!! Then I went for a bit if a fly. Ah, epicness is real!!! I never did go for the meditation because I just wanted to mess about

Interesting. I also had another part dreaming I was looking at a board and on the board I saw an equation starting to write itself. I only remember it started with y=p(x) and then some other things added to this.. I was so focused and wondering who is writing this.. The impression was that I am lying in bed and looking at the board late at night... Im thinking ghosts obviously ? I got pretty scared and woke up with a little headache from all the concentration. It was like my mind had been rendering information too much! Like a pc that starts to lag after overuse I guess ?

looking at your hand is always the reality check #1 Very similar to Leo's suggestion to stare at your hand for enlightenment, right? Eyebrow raising

A really good book which ties spirituality - Tibetan Buddhism, meditation etc, with lucid dreaming is Charlie Morley's book - Dreams of Awakening. It was the first ever spiritual book I ever read, back when I didn't even know what buddhism/spirituality is. I was more interested in the lucid dream bits, but now I realise how much better that book is from what I took from it at first!!

Hahaha! I've had my share of snakes... One dream with my old colleagues (programmers), we were just walking around some swamp... At one point we were separated and I saw a huge snake, it went for them... I wanted to scream, but was too scared the snake would come for me, so I just didnt do anything.. It ate one of them I started hiding... Went in some hole... Then I realised its probably where the snake lives

I still remember vividly one dream in which I was chased by a monster... I was so scared, I climbed on a tree - the only option I had to escape, but I knew its not going to be enough and I was ready to give up and die. I closed my eyes and meditated on the branch. The nightmare ended :))))) Epic

May I take a guess - the first thing you do is fly?? Would be cool if you did that. That was the first thing I always try to do when I become lucid. Feels very liberating.

Possible. Start a dream journal - important if you want to lucid dream!! It might seem like some gimmick, but there is something magic about putting words on a sheet of paper. Whenever you remember your dreams, write down, this will help you become more and more aware of your dreams and one day you will be in one of them and go AHA! Other than dream diary/journal, it is important to know how to check you are in a dream world. One of the best and simplest ways I've found is to just look at your hand, from both sides. If it looks like a real hand, you are in the real life dream (also nice to be aware in the real life dream tho). If it looks strange, you're in a dream - the AHA moment. As an example of how weird it can look, one time I looked at my hand and it had fins between the fingers. The reason this happens, they say, is because in dreams the logical part of the mind is sleeping, and the mind cannot render the hand correctly - it's too hard of a problem!! So it gives you some impression of a hand, not a real hand. Reality is weird. Dream reality is weirder. Heads up!! When you are in the dream world, all you see is your subconscious. Don't cause mayhem... Don't be foolish... You are in the presence of God. If you are foolish, you might get kicked out of lucidity!!

No, i said more than 10k in debt, More than 10k!! More than... More... 15k is not even it, Im just too scared to calculate the full amount I owe. I just pay monthly

This is a quick and simple one: I am hungry. Awareness is not hungry, I am hungry and need to eat, so I go and get something to eat. If I didn't hold any identity that my body is "I" I would not be able to survive (The body would die, this form of life will die). I need to go to the toilet. Awareness does not need to go to the toilet. I need to go to the toilet so I go to the toilet. Awareness doesn't go anywhere, it stays present in all situations beyond space and time. The body goes to the toilet, and if I was not identified with the body one bit, I, the body, would piss itself every time. When it comes to the word/thought "I", it does not refer to awareness. Awareness is God. I am a body-mind, all that I know is a world filtered through the perceptions of that body mind. Awareness is nothing, Ego is everything. Hmmm Or am I going crazy? Who is the I that is going crazy? It can't be awareness going crazy for sure!!! So is the only possibility of happiness to be a grass or a tree? Tell me please. Can one be happy as a human being?

Thanks, my target is reaching it by the end of the year! Currently have like negative 15k

I am identified as the body, because I am the body. If I wished to identify as a tree, it would be way harder, because I dont see the world through the perspective of a tree. If it smells like human, walks like human, talks like human, acts like human, then im pretty sure its human!!! (Me)

When you're having sex with your girlfriend, are you having sex with a thought? There is a tangible human being which is not a thought. It's oversimplifying things to claim that human is just a thought!! All yor girlfriends are imaginary?

By the human that is not a thought.

I wouldnt be identifying with pissing my pants, I would just be doing it like an animal. See a tree and go piss. No waiting for a toilet, because you need to identify as human for that...

There is no thought of hunger, there is just the feeling/sensation of hunger which is irrelevant to my thoughts. I could be thinking I am a clown living on mars, but hunger would still appear if I do not eat. I am a human irrelevant to what I think I am also. I was a human as a baby, even though I wasn't thinking I am a human. This problem of thinking does not apply to me, I can become free of thought by paying attention to the spaces between thoughts. This does not stop hunger. And I need to be identified with the body in order for the body to act as a unit and go do something about it. Sitting there expecting God to magically poof you a bowl of soup and spoon feed you is useless as it has never happened before and will never happen. You are either going to be saved by your own identification with the body or by another person's identification with body. If noone identified as a body, the body would die - period. You are saying to yourself you are not identified with the body and yet let me ask you a simple question: Do you have hands? If you do, then you are not awareness, but a human body. Let me remind you that awareness does not have hands. The simplicity of this fact is probably what makes it so hard for you to grasp!! You are human bro!!

I am pretty sure that the body without a sense of self will just be like a baby - that type of person would need to be cared for by the others (more egoic) individuals, because such an entity that does not care for its existence cannot survive. The Buddha was staying under a tree not eating for many many days (allegedly), until an identified being came to him and forced him to eat. He was becoming insane. He needed some sanity. Then he started eating and all was well. He understood that being empty awareness alone is throwing the baby with the bath water. Identification with body IS NEEDED.

I am a human being and a human being has needs such as hunger, thirst etcetera which need to be met. If they arent met, the life that a human is will fade.and i have no evidence of life apart from this one human life ai am experiencing. This life as pure awareness that doesnt need anything is just a sales pitch that is given to a human being in suffering so as to make the human confused. It doesnt solve the humans problems. It is my experience that I am an alive human being and there is something magical about trusting your experience. Part of that magic is not dropping dead from hunger and thirst because you are identified as an empty space of awareness. The space is there, yes, but it is not me, the space of awareness is God!! The creator, the one that allows the human to exist.

I am never identified as 'hungry'. That is just misunderstanding. Ofcourse my identity is not "Hungry". But I am feeling hungry!! You are over simplifying things because you read some Ramana Maharshi or Eckhart Tolle. Ofcourse I am not the hunger, but I still need to put food in my stomach or i will suffer, no matter how much I manipulate myself into believing I am not hungry, the feeling of hunger doesnt care what my identity is. Perhaps your suggestion is a fast track to anorexia. I dont want that.