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The equation was inspired by something Rupert Spira said. It is basically translating what he said with a more mathematical framework. Nothing more. If you hear him say basically the same thing in other words you would be buying it! Sometimes it's the messenger. I don't see why you don't see the validity of the statement. It makes sense to me. Watch the video that inspired this and see if it makes sense. You may start on minute 10, at minute 11 he starts talking about removing existence from things, which is where my equation got inspired from.

You are complicating simple things. Is it correct or is it not correct, that without awareness you do not exist? I am not asking you to point me to the awareness or to objectify or explain me what it is. The no self cannot be looked at as an object, yet it exists. I do not expect this equation to be in the math books any time soon, for me it is simply something that can be used by the logical side of the mind to get in touch with what the True self already knows. Spiritual Math TM, Union between Ego and Truth.

@StrangerWatch Reply to you both. Suppose the only real you is the one you are now - your exact human body - and you couldn't be without it. You = a specific soup of atoms and molecules which generates your specific awareness / experience. when this specific combo of atoms and molecules dies, suppose you lose consciousness. This means that you are in a "skip" situation. Perhaps you "skip" 1 trillion years, perhaps 10000000 trillion barangazillion years into the future. For you it is no time, because you are not conscious. In infinity, there is a 100% chance that the same atoms and molecules will blend together the same way they did before (since it already happened one time (now) this is proof that there is more than 0% chance to happen, so in infinite time it will happen 100%) So you will just get born again with the same soup of atoms, mollecules or different ones, but generating the same awareness - the awareness that you are right now. Even if its a dream you or any other explanation, the same chain of events that lead to you being alive now will happen again in infinity (infinity is the time you have after the supposed death (which you will not be experiencing)) . So from your point of view, did you die for 1000000000 trillion bazillion years, or did you die, and instantly get reborn as the same awareness? From your point of view, just like when sleeping, you are not waiting to wake up, it is instant. So from your POV, the process will be continuous, there will not be a disconnection, you won't experience the lack of awareness - EVER. Even from that point of view death is a joke. If you are experiencing death, you are not dead - because there is a you. If you are not experiencing death, you are not dead. So how can you be dead?

Mindfuck Well X = nothing + awareness X = nothing - awareness If X = infinity and Awareness = infinity, this equation states Infinity = Infinity and Infinity = -Infinity (which is true) Which also means that saying X != Awareness is not that big of a mindfuck tbh, because you can say that Infinity != Infinity also, yet they are the same because Infinite. Infinity is beyond our rational mind, but it makes sense.

you can say X-Brain = Not Human But how do you know Not Human = Nothing? Your equations are operating under the belief that X is a Human system - which we know from our science cannot operate without some of its major parts. But are you sure that when someone removes your physical brain, you will stop existing? This is the belief. While the fact is that you can only stop existing if the awareness is removed. To provide an example, I give you this hypothetical scenario, when you die, you become a light body or a ghost. That light body/ghost has awareness. Then God punishes your light body and removes it. Now you are not even that, but still have the experience of "I am", "I exist", even though there is no object you can point to that is you. However the only way to become absolute nothing, is to remove that Iam-ness. That Iam-ness is what you are, not any object. So only when that is removed, you can be nothing (which of course would not be you, it would be nothing, you wouldn't know about it) See you can remove all kinds of objects from that X, but it will remain you, unless the Awareness is taken away. This contemplation which you triggered in me also proves that Awareness is infinite as compared to Objects. You can take out as many objects from Me, it will still be Me, so Me (which is Awareness - proven by the equation) is infinite.

That is not my assumption. I have no assumptions in the equation. The only thing I am using is the fact that without awareness I do not exist, which is a fact proven by experience. Let's extend the math: Me = X, ok let's use Me instead of X for simplicity. Let's suppose that Awareness is not the only thing that exists. Me = Awareness + Objects in Awareness Lets give those objects in awareness variables = o1, o2,... oN Me = Awareness + o1 + o2 + ... + oN Lets remove object o1 and o2 from Me Me - o1 - o2 = Awareness + o3+o4+o5 +... +oN But since Me - o1 - o2 is still aware, therefore it is still me! LOL So Me is not really a constant, perhaps it is infinity, but check other post for that, we dont want to go on a tangent much. Me = Awareness + o3+ ... + oN Well let's do this to all the objects then Me - o3- o4 -... - oN = Awareness + nothing but since there is Awareness, it is still me! so Me = Awareness also from this line of reasoning, we also prove that Me/Awareness is infinite, since that is the only thing from which you can take or add as many objects and it remains itself. PS: Perhaps Essential Me is the more correct wording. Me = the Awareness + the human components (objects), but the Essential Me, is that only thing without which I cannot be - no matter what that I is - whether it is human or a non-human entity or non-entity - it cannot be Me only if there is no awareness. PSS: I have a counter argument for the equation Me = Awareness + o1 + o2 +.. +oN Now let's remove Awareness from both sides Me - Awareness = o1 + o2 + ... + oN Now we said o1, o2, ... oN are objects In awareness. Since we have no proof that objects can exist outside of awareness, this equation breaks, or you can say the objects become nothing, since they are not experienced. Me - Awareness = Nothing (At least from my POV) In more logical terms, o1, o2, etc are my body parts - they remain on Earth after my "death", but they are not Me, because there is no awareness there. Me = o1 + o2 +... + oN does not work, since there is no awareness there - there would be no experience of these objects, so how can they be me.

I understand what you are saying, but the thing is the only shared element around all those objects that you are mentioning is the Awareness. Without Awareness there is no Brain. Without Awareness there is no Heart. So Brain and Heart are not essential to me. What you are using for the Heart and Brain equations is using assumptions that without a heart and without a brain you cannot exist. This is a belief and not a fact as it is about awareness. Since it is not a fact, you cannot use it in the equation! X-brain = nothing is not a proven fact, while X-awareness = nothing IS a proven fact - proven in our experience.

Deepest gratitude for sharing this song. It's bathing my whole being with bliss and joy. Last 3 songs posted have no lyrics at all

It's easy to say it... As if those things happen automatically... There needs to be much effort to achieve each of those steps, they are independent things that need work on.

Ego dances with inner child

How would i know!

The question I asked was in my ♥ Perhaps the answer to it is "The question you asked is the best question you can ask, because you couldn't ask anything else (otherwise you would have) " ?

Ofcourse only actualized.org members exist, thats why im here ?

What is the best question that I can ask you?

@MM1988 the real scandal is at 8:31 where he reads the question wrong Oh its a mess.

That materialistic? To me it sounded like the general idea that reality can exist without a perceiver. (At least a human one - which is probably true) Perhaps the only perceiver needed is nothingness/teotl, in which case he is CORRECT.

sounds good, which practice(s) do you use which you think gave you such results?

reading this I remember I had a dream with Eckhart Tolle, we were under a staircase and he kind of showed me without words just that being present there and then is what my purpose is and I felt complete.

this made me laugh a lot thanks

I had a self inquiry breakthrough. I did self inquiry in a more focused and deep way than ever before with clarity and intention of going deep. What happened made me freak out enough to not repeat the same intensity ever since. I was lying down on the bed, the sheets all of a sudden started moving as if a strong wind was there - yet I was home. But I had set as an intention to keep the self inquiry NO MATTER WHAT happens. So I kept going and all of a sudden I experienced my body from a 3rd person POV, somehow I was above my body, but at the same time in my body its hard to explain. I could not continue the self inquiry further, I opened my eyes and there I was. Everything was normal again. This experience is pretty paranormal to me.

because if you hit 10000 times in the same spot, you will have better results than if you hit 10000 spots one time each.

Sounds like a severe case of pain body. Try to observe and yet stay detached from these and any thoughts really. Whatever will be will be. Just breathe amd sometimes is best to simply focus on your breathing and putting attention in self inquiry - placing attention on the deepest you you can find for long periods of time. Kriya yoga has never been something I found attractive, because I like simplicity, simple things. Self inquiry is the way.

This moment is God

s e r i o u s l y!!! As I saw this thread I intended to enter and post 3 6 9 without typing anything else only to see it has already been done