Dodo

Well what if I told you Im not clinging to a perspective. Im talking in clear nonduality. Perspective comes in duality. That in which the perspective appears is the Absolute. And That Absolute is formless. And the form within it is imaginary. Illusory content. Real packaging. When you merge Real packaging and Illusory content you get: the appearance of Real Content - Because the real merges with the unreal content making it appear real. It's not a perspective, it's basically What Is. If you can see how clear it is. It's so simple. No awakening of the person is needed, because as you say the person is/was/always will be content and not That within which content appears.... Soooooo You are NOT waking up after all. The No-you (no self) is awake, in other words, you are not awake. There is YOU and then there is the APPEARANCE OF YOU WITHIN YOU. Its the appearance here talking to the appearance there. It's Dodo talking to "Someone here". Don't be ridiculous thinking its emptiness talking with emptiness. It's content talking with content about content and through content. The Real, no-self has no need to talk with itself. The No-self is already perfect and needs no change. Needs not to express any truth. It is the Truth within which all relative lies and truths exist. And those relative ones is Me and You. That's why you are able to even have an account on this forum. The Awareness does not have hands and it is not able to have a forum account. That's only something an illusion/something relative can have. Trust me, Awareness/God LOVES the human experience. Why else would there be so many of us.

Yeah but if you apply that what you're saying then why are you even saying it. You are implying you are correct by saying it ? why don't you transcend your own opinion. It's not how i imagine it is- it is as it is.

Don't be allergic to words like Should. Also you are saying Im imagining this and at the same time telling me there is no mind here to be imagining. Bro you are confused. Let that go and ommmm. Read some Bhagavad Gita, do some Brahmacharya. We need more wisdom. I've had the cocky attitude you present. It's easy when we get identified with the Noself to speak as Noself. But we must remember that we are speaking as a dream character not as the Noself beyond the dream who is imagining all this. The difference between you right now that I'm speaking with and the real you (God) is the same vast difference as the dream character at night and you ( God) But when i am talking to the character there on the other side of the monitor I am not talking to the one dreaming this, it's a character talking to a character. You are not God as the character so let it go. Be human and marinate in the Noself but stop claiming awakening. It's getting ridiculous! The ego is very sneaky. Now you tell me that im imagining the ego, that there is no ego to be tricky, but the me that is imagining is either the Ego (so you're wrong that it doesn't exist) or its God imagining (so if its God why are you against God's will?) Yes I am saying there are two yous. One is formless but real, the other is with form and illusory. These two selves dance in harmonY. Both are complementing each other perfectly. Perfect nonduality with no confusion. Don't throw your inner child with the bathwater.

Bro we should be on our knees right now praying to the Eternal Self. Not being arrogant and trying to claim the Ultimate truth for our own personal truth and tell people that we are awakening. Nope! As you say the mind doesnt exist but it is imagining. Well which one is it. It appears that you are a bit confused and thats ok! Because you are the small mind also, that appears inside God. Accept you are not the Absolute as a form identity. Now let's stop saying lies about being awakened and stuff! Awakeness is awake. I am awake. But not as anyone. Not as Dodo. You are not awake as the person typing. The person typing should lower his arrogance and start praying to the Self. We borrow our existence from the great Nameless. Trust me, you want to be a human. Otherwise you wouldn't be imagining it. When I find out I'm dreaming at night, I am interested in the dream, I don't want to remove it, just because its not real. And thats sort of what you are trying to say but I can feel that you are just well versed in these things and that you're still deluding yourself a little bit. Not to sound like I am higher and holier. I am not, we are one reality, we are one illusion. But let's be real, we are the illusion. The reality is God and that cannot be claimed as a personal Self, because the personal Self is in it also.

yeah. What if I told you your mind has not stopped, it is still operating fully and is now creating a persona around how awakened it is. Ego on steroids . Trully awakened means you know you are the Absolute, now is that body that appears to be typing on a PC claiming to be that Ultimate eternal one? Be honest.... Be HONEST with yourself, not with me. Is the human claiming to be the Eternal Self beyond form??? If not, then who is the "awakened" one - the eternal self or the human self?

Krishna is the real deal. Haha! This is like fighting with pokemons. Who's Sri will win? Ultimately there is only One x) <3 <3 <3

you speak the truth but still you are not waking up you are always awake. If you dont take yourself to be the appearances, but that space you are so masterfully referring to, then you are not waking up. On second read, you are saying something wrong imo.. The state of nothingness is the same as the state of empty awareness. It's not awareness happening in nothingness. There is no such thing beyond awareness. In deep sleep this is what it's like to be empty awareness, without objects. It's not the experience of nothingness without awareness. If you were not aware, how do you know you were in deep sleep? Bro stop doing this here, you aint waking up nobody ever wakes up. If truth is found you will know you're not waking up. The Truth is impersonal. Stop grasping

oh yeah I watched this interview few weeks ago. It's really good.

Well the version I have has like 50 pages of introduction and then a separate introduction before each chapter. So it makes it much easier to understand, rather than having to decipher it yourself.

I would urge you to read the Bhagavad Gita. It will help you out a lot imo. Here's a snippet. So here is said that action is not a problem on this path, as long as one is detatched from the fruit of that action. Selfless action gets us closer to liberation than selfish inaction. But I can relate deeply with what you're saying because I too was a programmer and i just couldn't take being in my head so much. And it didn't feel like my life purpose. It feels mechanical and dead to me. But just like Arjuna had to fight the war he didn't really want to fight, so too maybe I have made a selfish decision to not continue with programming. Maybe.

Thank you so much for this, I can't wait to have some progress with Kundalini. Although I am not the most eager for it, tho I hear good things. And bad ones. My chakras are mostly locked up I would assume due to addictions, but on the path of clearing now and brahmacharya, so it might be coming. But I am aware that this is not what "I" am looking for, ultimately. <3 love and light Oh, and the soundtracks are magical.

It's been said above, but yeah, for me a cushion works. Now if you want to be sure you remain with a straight back, just meditate next to the wall and put a cushion between your back and the wall and then lean back. But also I think this problem is similar to the one where people start thinking during meditation and completely stop being present because they go on many tangents.. Then they must notice this and return to breath or other thing that centers them in the now. Gently and lovingly so. SO do the same with your back. You may try to not lose awareness of your back during meditation and use that posture as the thing that centers you to this moment. That way if you slouch without noticing, you will know that you've become distracted. It's just something your body is used to and the more you get it out of that conditioned pattern the better.

Holy shit I can relate. Unfortunately I wont disclose what happened, cause one- it will be too long and two - its just too long, many small things glued together. Nobody else will understand through reading is what I mean,has to be experienced. Hehe you can probably relate to this also.

This is deep. I resonate with this. Thanks, as an advaitan and semi versed in the great dao, I see no fault with what you're saying

Ok I think I am preaching to the choir, I feel you're way ahead of me on this one and I look like a fool trying to force-teach his "theory" lmao soz I know how I would feel if someone started teaching me something I already know It's one of the worst.

yeah lol, there's nothing crazier than this life

But the Self is Here, there is nothing other than the formless Self right now. There is an object that APPEARS to be you, doing things in an apparent world. Both the character and the world are witnessed by the Self. All of the states are objects to the Self. The Self is the container, the prerequisite for anything to be there and be known. But it itself can never be known, it can only be "beinged". A good contemplation to see what I mean is to inspect your experience during a dream at night and to see how easily you can be fooled into believing that you are a different character - the character in your dream is different to your waking character. Both of which are not you. You are that which knows the states of Dreaming and Waking. You are that which remains in deep sleep when all objects are gone. Don't underestimate nothingness - it's not really nothing in the sense that it is not there, it's God, it is everything.

Here is some 5meo, idk if it works, but it sounded cool to me.

I do not understand what you mean and what this competition is, but my ego would really love to win it

its actually funny that creating and reacting are using the exact same letters. Im sure thats why you are using them tho lol! But I know the common new age stuff is Felling is the secret etc etc, you have to feel it and so on, for it to be real... But if we are really intellectually honest, we see that all feelings are an object to the Self, so the Self can never be felt. The Self can never be thought about, it is that which knows all thoughts. The Self can not be an object to the Self. You know you are having a relationship with something other than the Self if you are feeling it/seeing it. It's an imposter if you can know it as an object to you. Well there is nothing other than the Self, that would be a duality, but that doesnt mean that what you are seeing/feeling is the Self. It's more like a mirage, generated by the Self's imagination. It's not really there and it's dreamlike in nature... But lets dive into the relative now and continue talking about Twin flames LMAO

I guess we can speak about a relationship between the form self and the formless self. Guess that's what prayer and meditation is all about. But when the identification with the form self is gone, so too goes any kind of relationship, because that relationship was based on the illusory identification with form. Thinking that you are both the body AND the subject that knows the body. I can't say I'm there, but I am applying various spiritual practices to make my form identification transparent enough to disappear.

I found the book "UFO Flying Saucers over Britain?" by Robert Chapman - or the book found me, it was under the clutter in my room. I was looking for the Bhagavad Gita and this book popped out during the search. Haha. The universe is mindfucking me, because after I took the UFO book and the Gita to the park and I met one Indian guy who started talking about Aliens and later about 5meo... Lol! True Mindfuckery

<3 Not sure how people perceive my words, but I am not implying the reality is out to get me. Haha! No, I see on one hand where you're coming from, but also wanted to add that I am not a big fan of duality also So when people start having relationships with themselves, I cringe a little

heheheh well that would be hard as there is no distance between you and yourself so I would say you are you, not your twin flame. Ultimately we are all the Self and there are no twin flames and there are no humans, forum members, girls and guys. But in the relative plane and this glorious dream, there appear to be these things so lets enjoy them and learn from/with them.