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The Unseen is Consciousness/Awareness. It is our true nature in direct experience - that witness that never changes. This is why many say "I am God". But that claim is usually misinterpreted, both by the say-er and by those hearing it. Because it is not the waking character/ ego identity which has form that is God, but rather the formless unseen awareness that knows that Ego-self. Then he must be you right now. You are saying it in other words. You don't really have free will. You have God's will. Your free will IS God's will. But ofcourse you are not God AS Ibgdrgnxxv, but you are God as the formless. So Ibgdrgnxxv is praying to Infinite consciousness/awareness. That to me sounds like the correct practice. There seems to be a lot of wisdom in the different traditions around the world. It can be seen as ignorant for some people who study and practice nonduality, but that is really just them not getting it fully.

Woah woah, why you putting fear together with surrender and prayer I'll tell you what ego is... Ego is this identification with the waking state character. You also have dream ego too, which you are only identifying with during dreams. And now you are in waking, you identify with waking character... It's normal. But all states are happening to you, so you cannot be in any of the states, you must be there in all states, so you cannot be any of the characters. The different characters/egos cancel each other out and you remain as the awareness that knows those. If you really grasp nonduality in direct experience you can see that it is not about removing all apparent dualities such as "Praying to the absolute" . When there is true nonduality and not egoic one, you see that what appears as duality is actually not. So there was never anything to dissolve and there was never an ego. Again, if you put your attention on the dream ego at night... That one never really existed... Only during the ignorance of the dream state did you think you were it, but even then it was not you. So whether it prays or doesn't pray really is not creating any sort of duality, because the entire state in which these doings appear is only imaginary. Your very post does not follow the principle you are trying to convey. You are writing a post to another human, "creating a duality". So if you do not pass your own critique, why should I listen to hypocrites? That's the thing, you seem to be confused about what nonduality is, and you appear to equate nonduality as a form of vegetative state where you can't do anything, because you would be creating duality. No no no its the other way around. No matter what you do and how hard you try you cannot create duality. You cannot create something that doesn't exist.

Thats the thing, there really is no waking character, nobody is praying to anybody etc etc. But it appears to be happening. I did not create anything here. Notice if your dream character gets bitten by a tiger in your dream at night, that doesn't mean there really was a tiger and that there was a dream character that got bitten... And if that dream character had the option to pray and then maybe his chance of not getting bitten is higher, why shouldn't that character do it? It doesn't exist, yes, but during the dream it is still going to prefer to have a pleasant experience. (rolling eyes smiley)

yes boss !

@raphaelbaumann GOAT= GREATEST OF ALL TIME ? Magnus Carlsen is GOAT. Yeah, we assign meaning to words. I actually had this thought when I was waking up today that it would be nice if i translate some teachings and meditations in my own language and see them from a fresh perspective. Since the language also changes the vibes too. Like I have the power of now by Eckhart Tolle in both Bulgarian and English and although the words point beyond themselves, its as if there is a difference, like seeing it from a different angle. In Bulgarian Goat is Козел. ?

@Member Number 5 is not a lie. ???

it appears this is a mainstream phenomenon. Everyone is getting miracles in the shower these days, but me... ?

Oh sorray, I deserve to look like an ass since I was ASSuming.

I recently came out to my parents as omnipresent. They told me to leave the house, but I can't, since I am everywhere at once. Please help.

@zeroISinfinity Oh youuuuuu! ?

That's a relief... You know I was walking at the park the other day and I was thinking... Wait... What if this DreamScape dude is some sort of psychopath, and he will come find me, cut off my finger, glue it to himself and say : "Look! See? I grew a 7th finger!" :\ Yeah........

I dont know be careful with that type of enlightened arrogance that comes from the greater seeing. Do not engage in this sort of "daring" the higher Self, because your life can become a hellish nightmare. That's why humility is very important to be practiced... As a waking character you do not want to experience a nightmare, you want to have a pleasant dream. That's what I want What Im saying is the relative is here, borrowing reality from the Absolute, so while borrowing that reality, it appears so real that it is, for the waking character at least. So you really dont want to be in Gods face as a character saying that you are constructing all this. Pay your respect and Love to the Absolute and surrender to the Absolute self, pray and love! Do not take hold of the Truth (which I am seeing you are ready to start integrating) as some personal truth that your waking character has any sort of control over. The whole character is completely dependent on the Absolute, so the only thing left is to connect deeply with this One reality and pray as waking illusory characters. Really you cannot construct and deconstruct anything. Only the One reality can. Humility and surrender are so so important, without those having a deep clarity like yours can turn into something destructive as the waking self tries to take hold of the Truth as if the waking self has any power whatsoever... The Humility and surrender to what is are the things that keep the fire from burning the entire house. You want to use the fire to cook your meal, not to burn the house.

I agree. It's all the play of Leela. I would go further and say unenlightenment does not necessarily mean unenlightenment and Enlightenment does not necessarily mean Enlightenment.

Very fruitful, but you ate all the fruits

You dont have to stop constructing anything. It's nothing whether you are constructing it or not. It might appear as something, it is still nothing. No law has been broken.

Well I am sorry then I can see that this map is good after all. That's it keep going.

Buddha, Jesus, Ramana Maharshi, all realized the Self beyond form and beyond the states. They knew full well they are not the waking state ego that appears only temporarily. It is only from the waking state that we give so much importance to the waking state. The Buddha, Jesus and Ramana Maharshi are NOW the same Self that they were when they were in the forms of Buddha, Jesus and Ramana Maharshi. That reality is not in time. And Yess, what im saying is nothing ever happened. And its nothing that is happening right now also.

When you fight a Jnani on actualized.org forum (every other member) @AwakenedSoul444 To lighten things up

Thats ok man, its all good. I am really not trolling you , this is deep nondual teaching you might not respect me as a channel for such information, but the source is deeper than my mind and waking Ego identity. So if someone you don't respect tells you something true you wont even consider checking it? I don't want to bother you my man, if you're busy with something or dont feel to respond its absolutely fine.

I feel that the discussion is fruitful and full of golden possibilities for contemplation and real deep inner work. If only we stop judging one another and actually read what was said. Everything I said is directly verifiable in experience in my previous post. The practice in the waking is to surrender to that One Reality. That's also called worshipping God.

Those are just glorified experiences. If something happened and you are now enlightened, then your enlightenment had a beginning and will have an end. The only real enlightenment is noticing That which never changes, no matter whether your experience is pooping, picking up girls, whether you are having an ego death and cosmic expansion experience or writing a post. Same to you, even from your name it can be seen that you believe that there is a way to awaken. But only if you do, it will be an enlightenment in time. You did something, you achieved it and now you are awakened. Enlightened. That cannot be the Absolute Truth which has no beginning and no end and is all of reality as we speak. Why are you clinging to an idea of Enlightenment , all these tools and techniques are merely put there in order to be negated in the end. You never received Rasa. All that stuff happened to your waking state character, you remain untouched beyond the states. That waking character is as much you as the dream character... This body-mind just appears to be you, its a mirage - not saying its a bad mirage. Enjoy it, I am too! By writing on the forum sometimes - you do your stuff, like trying to pickup! That's all enlightened behaviour, because the waking character will never be enlightened. To be enlightened means to wake up from the waking character to the ultimate reality beyond Time itself. There are not even states in reality, but I use the common belief of the 3 states to show to you that it is your experience that you are the same Self in Waking, dream and deep sleep. So you cannot be the Waking self and cannot be the dream self. So who wakes up? The waking self will remain in the waking, no matter how woke it is, the dream self will remain in the dream... Those 3 supposed states happen in you, the already awakened ULTIMATE reality. The reality of you, the actuality of you is That. This content has been brought to you by, The Now - an independent service

@EntheogenTruthSeeker What the..? Was it moving?

? Getting there means getting here. But i get you. Wink wink, we're going to get there some day! I trust the Universe. Everything will happen as it must. All I can do is be here. I'm not enlightened. The real part of reality is formless. Forms are illusory, the one writing t you is a form which acknowledges publicly it's illusory nature. Only God, the impersonal self, is real. I cannot say anything more true.

But man what is this other than a belief, an appearance in the Absolute, formless, changeless, right now. This joker body here has been marinating and doing many spiritual practices since 2016! It's not like it's only been typing here like a savage mentally masturbating. But really I cant believe how appearance in consciousness can have so much faith in another appearance in consciousness to believe that they know better than them whether they realise they are not the appearance, but consciousness. Its Goddamn ridiculous and pretty funny.

Everyone with a Rasa score is admitting they do not recognise the Absolute as their true nature, but a limited self. So really what can they say about enlightenment? While there is some begger somewhere who doesn't know shit about any spiritual concept and maps and is immersed as the Absolute... because its simpler than what the ego thinks