Dodo

God knows ?

When you trying to escape the matrix but your mind is too good at creating believable illusions by pulling your ego strings

fair point

lay off the shrooms bro if you are saying nothingness is a bundle of sensations thats some mad-talk. The page is the page and will remain the page when the text is deleted.

Even still, no one has authority over God. It is so infinite that no one entity can speak about it with accuracy from where I'm standing. I listen to Ramana and other spiritual teachers, but I don't take all words as gold. Have to remember that they are all human and make errors. In maths those errors can be proven, but when we are not dealing with an exact science, those errors will slide and will get spread like a virus. God knows nothing? You know nothing, John Snow! Big respect for Ramana and his Self Inquiry pointings. Dont take all words of gurus as golden truth. I can call bullshit on anyone, even Buddha, when I see it. That doesnt mean they werent profound, but when you put yourself out there, you are bound to make mistakes also. Just a simple example, there are these tricky math questions on YouTube and people in the comments usually speak complete BS out of ignorance, but there are many likes and groupthink and if it wasnt maths, those BS comments would be considered truth. Well.... You can see how a subject as big as God, we have to be extremely careful and its not as easy to verify - see you are asking others what they think, and if they agree, you will agree... And since Ramana said it, you agree...

I doubt Ramana Maharshi has said this. Usually when people talked about God in front of him, he made sure to turn them back to the self investigation and said not to concern themselves with God. At least from what I have heard and read from Ramana. Anyone can write up any quote and put it as if someone from the past has said it - Einstein.

Thats an inspiration for others on this forum to start semen retention /Brahmacharya. And really we have all made mistakes, it is human. All that matters is what you will do now, we can't change the past. Kudos on the 5 months.

What do you think about this one Mysterio, the truth of illusions, but we all know the real truth is love so Spider man wins that one.. And truth doesnt say "I am the truth" . They really nailed the wording of these scenes

@Gabith dont overthink things. Whatever will happen will happen, so you dont need spoilers. Focus on yourself now, not fantasy of being others... Really right now, wherever you are, there are infinitely many things to be aware of, so you don't need to experience other perspectives, one is a handful And you need to be who you are, otherwise who would be you man Leave Emma Watson to be Emma Watson PS: I see life as a series of explosions - fast and slow ones. Like a tree and nature can be seen as a very very slow explosion. So can humans... A different kind of explosion to what we are used to. But seeing it this way, we can intuit that an explosion can't be pre-determined, it might have some characteristics, but an explosion to be predetermined would be silly for me. You have the opportunity to have a spontaneous out of the blue decision every moment of your life, and so does everybody else... So no, not pre-determined. Perhaps a controlled explosion is better picture to have.

@epickei wow! Very interesting. I havent experienced this but the closest experience to this was when one time my "solid brain" turned into "waves" (explaining the experience with words as best I can) after which it quickly solidified again and some awesome stuff started happening like fireworks within, hearing songs from within (mainly this one: https://youtu.be/9EHAo6rEuas?t=86 from the time specified) and later a very vivid dream, a dream like never before, I would say more like a vision than a dream. Was speaking with an old friend over a video call... I can't believe this really happened, because it was so surreal and something that probably can't be explained by science (maybe quantum science). The thing with the songs from within has happened to me before, it is one of the most magical experiences ever! Because the songs are so perfect, they are always better than the original and some words are changed to express something specifically... Its divine really and I wish it happened more often - I also don't know the catalyst and whether it will ever happen again

Well, God is the most popular word that points to God but I wouldn't be concerned about God. Be concerned with looking at your own self, that is what you have access to. Leave God to God, the Universe to the Universe. We are too small to put our nose in those things. An ant and a human have the same chance to figure it out - 0. But human has the opportunity to reflect on its own self, which is for me, the right direction.

very well played, but we all know that only I exist bruh but why are there trillions of things on the world and the internet which I am never going to even look at? Who are they for and why are they generated? Uhh DUUH they are generated only for me when I look at them... If I was the only one who is real, why am I not the ruler of the world? We don't need proof against solipsism, just talking about it gives it more credit than it deserves. Its like flat earth - just talking about it gives it a little bit of reality So to say its ridiculous is giving it a little bit of life and some doubt in the mind will come "WHAT IF" FUCK THAT Don't go crazy! Life is beyond our feeble minds and will remain a glorious mystery lets respect that. If you don't want to get stung, don't poke the hornet nest hehe. Investigate your own self, but respect that there are other selves also. No ofcourse you don't have direct proof of other selves, BECAUSE YOU ARE YOUR OWN SELF No proof does not mean proof of the opposite. It is a very fallible logic! Mathematics teaches you that. If you have no proof of other "direct experiences", that does not mean only your direct experience exists. That would need a proof. I await proof of solipsism and then will laugh at the results because my direct experience would be the proof against that proof, because it was not me who wrote the proof and they couldnt write it without direct experience - if they did, then the proof is wrong, because they have no direct experience to draw conclusions from. I hope you follow my logic here, because it is solid from my understanding.

This was not the focus of my reply and critique. I did not say that you wouldn't do anything because its all you, but because your mom doesnt exist when she is not in the room. Or if you do something about it, then you prove that what you say is false and things that are not perceived right now also exist. Which one is it?

But lets see if its radically correct through this made up example: Your mom calls you and says she needs help, someone is trying to get in her house and only you can help. Then the phone switches off and you are supposed to go help her... But then, you remember, "if its not sensed right now, its less than nothing". "My mom doesn't exist now, she only existed a moment ago and it was just her voice too, not her!" Now you are chilling, having an ice cream and your mom gets mugged. That's if you are radical about what you just said! I get that it might be helpful during meditation to keep centered, but it is not an absolute thing from where I'm standing. Mixing meditation technique with real life might be oversimplification and using a sock, which you try to fit your whole body in... It might be a good and valid tool for one thing, but not absolute.

Love when people ask the good and controversial questions. For me the only way to tackle this is by example of another state of consciousness which we know for a fact (or do we?) has only One in it- your own dream state. Because in waking state we do not have the confirmation there is only One, like in dream, but just a suggestion/theory by some other characters that say it. In dream you can have all sort of characters, and they will do things which you do not have a clue about, even though everything is happening in your own mind. From this observation, I gather that there is a deeper intelligence at play which creates both you and the others and the whole story. Perhaps a good word would be the subconscious mind (for the dream case) and God for the waking case. But even in dreams you have your will, depending on the dream, and you can make choices that alter the dream events (especially in more lucid dreams). And it appears others are also doing things that alter the dream events. But these entities are all unreal - or you can say, only real while the dream is going on. Now if you say this to a dream character during the dream they would, supposedly, argue with you and say you are dumb, and maybe even start beating you to prove that its real (just a scenario). That would be undesirable by your character, even though your character was correct in what it was saying. Moral of the story: know the truth, but don't go about saying it, so you keep out of trouble and nightmares Have a good dream instead by doing contemplations silently and then not preaching to others, unless someone wants your input. So really, if this reality is a dream on another level, both Person A and Person B are figments of Reality's imagination playing out a story (but a story with branches, and your choices and other's choices do matter in terms of what happens - not predetermined IMHO, but spontaneously emerging ). Non of them is You, and both of them is you at the same time! But so is the chair I guess. We won't figure it out, that's like an ant trying to figure out maths. Its just beyond us and will always be! IMHO PS: I have never had other people's thoughts even in a dream! But I have been spider man, and I can clearly say its not cool when both the cops and the bad guys are after you! I would take peace over super powers. And really, from contemplating what you suggest one can really fall off the rails if goes too deep! I assume at least

Don't start with assumption that nothing exists. Thats just someone's teaching that you took for truth. Find out for yourself what is true. The guidance of good and proper spiritual teachers is used to teach you how to find truth for yourself, not tell you the truth (i.e. nothing exists). I would suggest from my understanding that you can have the best of both worlds. Play in maya and know yourself through contemplating what remains in deep sleep. The ego will remain the ego, a character. That character can never become the truth, because truth already is the case. ❤ So what point is there to try escaping maya/matrix? In dream at night nothing is real and yet I dont seek to get out of it. It wil happen naturally, the dreams end and reality of being remains. And even in the dreams, the reality of You Is. It might be veiled by loudness and noise but its there for anything to be known at all. I also want to suggest to you that all you do see is unconsciousness. It appears that you think you cannot see unconscious, but actually, just as eye cant see itself, consciousness, you, cannot see yourself, but see everything that is not you - not consciousness is unconsciousness. That includes the human character and its shadow and light. Now the collapsing of the consciousness, uncosciousness duality is where this mind will abdicate and I will not be able to tell you a logical explanation of how to do it or if its possible. Try not to overthink, I know I do sometimes so can appreciate what you're going through.

Well there is nuance. If the intellect is strong it might think it can hold on to and explain the truth. It will make it harder, because analysing and dissecting is not what is required. A subtle intellect is required for the truth I am talking about at least, which is not something to do with mind. So if the mind is huge, it will just get in the way. But I understand, you might be talking about something else. I accept the criticism, Its not important what I say and I might be wrong. Its exactly the thing, you are taking it as a complex subject... Emptiness is not complex, the mind is and it can create a million different relatively true TOEs. There are levels to this shit as they say

Some say there is no ego, it is a mirage. In the dream and sleep investigations we can see from everynight experience that the waking ego is not You, because its not with you in dream and deep sleep. It's a character we play in a game called life I guess! Hello there So I know I went on a bit of a tangent, but I felt its important to show why we are not the ego. Its not so important after that ?

oh now I understand what you mean, no judgement, I misunderstood your comment you were right

My statement is clear and I believe I have the right context To my knowledge, the screen is being, now, while the movie is all events and things that happen/ed in time. For example, from the screen point of view, that building didn't get blown up, because the screen is untouched, but from the movie point of view it did and it affects the story. Rather clear and simple analogy not easy to misunderstand.

? is it harder to jump a puddle or entire lake?

Thats a question of identity. If we are talking about Holocaust we are talking about human beings and time bound event, not formless consciousness, obviously. We are talking about the movie not the screen here. The forum is too meta, need to be more human.

You are absolutely ridiculous Its as ridiculous as saying "Do you know what a beach is?" - Yes "Then tell me how many grains of sand there are on a beach". No, general knowledge is not about knowing all facts and figures about every event. Its really hard to take you serious with this kind of thinking. You have to be specifically interested in the topic to know such things and you present it as if everyone is supposed to know it and that not answering such a specific question proves something... It proves that you are talking out of the wrong hole !

Help I also want to know how can I not feel desire for females. I have had an "epiphany" that I am a man whore and I need to respect women, but I just can't stop myself looking sometimes. I am weak , give me strength. Then when I try to not look at women reality make quickly sure to show me that I am not being my authentic self.. Like WTF you just told me I am a manwhore and need to respect females -.- Sometimes I feel like I am being toyed with by higher beings. And im scared of people who are smiling and warm to me now, because it feels like they are luring me in, But I am also scared of rude and forceful people... I need to find my people!! Where are the silent guys and gals - Where are the MEs...? Everyone around me is talking as if they are computers and know everything, without gaps between their speech!!

I second this, but also what if this is not a game/story/book/movie and it is reality? Why do we strive to be an ideal book character if we are real humans? But then I see others are sometimes so elaborately placed that they cant just be humans... And if they were all like me, they would be doing different things, they wouldnt be so amazing and working so well together... I feel different to everyone else, like they are part of some higher collective and I am a traitor or something I have these experiences recently where I get flashes and signs from the higher power/universe/god/ and it tells me differen things! At one point it wants me to strive for an ideal, for infinite love, for an impossible standard, then it tells me NO, slow down, why are you just listening to what others say, you have a head of your own, use it! Then it makes the characters more assertive and I follow their words, but then I see something written on the contrary - and I don't know is God speaking through the human or through the signs on the walls and shirts and colours... Is he speaking through the numbers, through the songs, through my thoughts... Then I overhear someone say "Balance".. Then I see someone doing something bad and I dont know if he is the good guy or the bad guy, since "the days are evil" and "the eyes are deceiving you" . Everything flips, I am in an impossible game! Then when I think im in a game, it turns to "reality" again. THERE IS NO END TO THIS. And if I stop the bad guy - oh you little rat! I dont want the divine masculine to be after me! But if I dont help the female I am not following LOVE, the divine Feminine is disappointed ... I need to trust God, have faith in God, then I need to work, then they say "you receive the spirit by faith, not by work" what theeeee! They all appear to give me different input! This place is insane