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Not knowing is the ultimate enlightened state as far as I am concerned. Your friend is on the money. Doesn't sound great to the ego, the ego wants to figure it out - "this is the answer, i got it", "I have now completed the game, easy!" Becomes especially strong when it is a spiritual ego and they actually are fully certain they reached the endgame, by means of some crazy spiritual experience where they merge with the Absolute. It's not sexy to say, I dont know. It doesn't sell books! For financial enlightenment, you need to have something something for the buyer you get me

A guy arguing with circlejerking solipsist is God trying to share itself with others. You even use Circle jerk in your comment and you're not realising you're the main example. You respond to the guy who is on "your side" but not to the criticism and challenge from me. A true scientist wants people to challenge him, not to agree with him.

Look, I agree that consciousness is nondivisible, but I don't agree it is one. In my personal exploration, consciousness is 0 itself. There's definitely Not 2 consciousnesses! Sounds familiar dunnit? People immediately assume One... Consciousness is the canvas, the canvas exists prior to any painting and it is completely empty, allowing space for that painting. Without the painting, the canvas is useless and uninteresting, without the canvas, the painting can't be. (Sorry this second part is just a good explanation of the way I see it, I dont want to give you any lectures) I guess what Im trying to say is, once you get to the consciousness realisation, you don't now treat that consciousness as the Ultimate Mind, but as something completely outside the realm of mind. All minds are paintings on the canvas, To say there is 1 consciousness and therefore reality is solipsistic is to say that consciousness is mind. Basically, treating consciousness as an object, when it is the eternal subject. You don't have to paint the canvas

I perceive solipsism as strong "bullshit" trap. I don't see solipsism as mystical or part of mysticism. I perceive it as one of the bigger traps for spiritual egos. Nonduality - yes, that's mysticism. I'll bring in a copy of my own circlejerkers here to help me out. Post by Dontaskme » Fri Sep 07, 2018 11:06 am Another guy responds with: Answer:

Now thats what I call top class circlejerking! "It's them! They don't have a clue, but WEE, we knooow!" Give me a break. I have attacked no labels. I am evolved enough to discuss what the labels are pointing to. I don't agree bro, and in your worldview you're supposed to be viewing me as yourself, yet you act like I am someone different! By your own worldview, you shouldn't even be here arguing. By my worldview, go ahead, we are two separate entities discussing their belief systems, experiences and notions of reality. By your worldview, its just you, so why are you arguing with your damn self, you crazy or what? Why am I not seeing it? No, in your world view, its not me who is not seeing, but your own self is not seeing, because thats what you believe. RIGHT? You can't escape this point when you are a solipsist and defend solipsism. It might sound basic and crude, but it is so obvious, you disregard it as me talking bs. Its YOU talking bs in a solipsistic world, not me. I dont exist, remember, it's just you?

its the opposite of circlejerk here... There is no such bias, it's just that I am perhaps always challenging what you're saying and you take that as if I have a bias. I'm the kind of guy who will challenge what I perceive as bullsh1t, no matter who wrote it. Leo has some great content, when I see something I consider bs, I call it and don't care. If you're a mod as well, I don't care, I take what you write based on what you write. If I see Jesus saying something BS I will call it, Hitler as well. If Hitler and Jesus say the same sentence, there are people who will challenge only Hitler, but I am the guy who would challenge both, because its not about who says it, but what they say.

That last sentence has nothing to do with it. I do have an open mind that reality is mystical and I've had personal experiences labelled by others as "psychosis" that actually prove it to me, because I knew how real these experiences were while they were happening. Its very patronising of you to write that last sentence as if Im some guy here with rigid belief system that cant get out of his own a$$ and what society tells him. Belief and mysticism are intertwined, belief is not a swear word. I know that exactly because I don't believe everyone I listen to, I believe my own experience. Am I supposed to believe that reality is mystical and mysterious, but that one guy on that one forum can tell you all the secrets? He got the ultimate truth even tho its highly mystical and paradoxical, you better believe him at face value whatever he says! If you don't, you prove yourself to be a lower level consciousness joker! PS: you know what, googled mysticism and even the definitions include belief in them. Wasn't that a Leo suggestion, google words you know, gives you perspective.

Nice dodge... How come I know my rent as well, if the Self is the only thing that can be known? You don't know my rent, you are not conscious of my rent! How can you be the same consciousness if you are not conscious of the things I am? Either means consciousness is not you, or we are separate consciousness.

So you basically mean "Placebo" if you believe you're God you're God if you believe you're not God you're not God. In that case, it is not true that I am God. Truth is true whether I believe it or not.

If you're the same consciousness as me, come pay my rent and I will begin to believe you.

Hang on, if I am God I am God, what is this talk about becomming? If God played an elaborate trick on itself to forget its God, I trust God on that! There must be a good reason for that. My experience tells me I am at most one of many avatars in the dream of God. Solipsism is a joke, it says I am the only one that exists and everyone else is figment of my imagination, but as a matter of fact, if this really is a dream of God, even I am a figment of God's imagnation, so its Zeropsism not solipsism.

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Enough with the sci fi man. Look around the planet and see the complexity of nature. If you think human is so much more complex than the rest of planet earth, you havent looked. You dont need alien hand here, nature is magical enough dude. Now, if I have experienced aliens, then they were taking human forms. The creatures i met were pretending to be human, but did not pull it off very convincingly, they acted weird. I thought they are either super AI or Aliens or God intervening. Seemed like one of those entities could pretend to be entire groups of people at the same time, but hey. I was taken by group of cops who just spawned in front of me and told me to get down.

Consciousness is extra terrestrial, we are the aliens!

I have had an experience later labelled 'psychosis' where the signs kept saying "respect my privacy" and numbers, I also believed I was either talking with/seeing aliens or it was God or however you want to label it. It was like they had connected consciousness and could see my thoughts and everything, I saw some weird sheet and it was all real for me like i could pinch myself, but were impossible things. I guess I might have had some 4d experience and matrix was trying to get me back in the 3d, there is a safety mechanism in place to get you back when u start flying I guess.

I have no idea what you said, but I think it was pretentious. Farmville is higher consciousness stuff than aliens. What's so interesting about aliens? People have normalised earthly things as if they know them. People don't know a tree, but they go after the aliens. Explore reality, look at the flowers, look how things on Earth work together in symbiosis, that's a miracle. Remember, to the aliens, if there are any, we are the aliens.

Love Destiny from starcraft 2. Epic zerg player. I want to say, terrestrial life is so mysterious already, our actual reality is so crazy and impossible, there should be panels about that, Aliens for me is lower consciousness topic than gaming. Destiny trying to increase the consciousness level by playing games

I have seen crazy things in my psychosis state, they were all real for me, touch and feel. Either proves that i wasnt in psychosis state and those things I saw and experienced were real, or it proves that reality itself is a type of psychosis which is "normal"

Non human bodies ay?? I wasnt aware there are only humans on this planet ;D If there are aliens, they are not only not from this planet but also not from this dimension. We enter the realm of hallucination ?

I have, as soon as the video came out lol

Chat gpt is bad at maths you cant expect it to be telling you truth. I have had math convetsations with it and it keeps making mistakes and when i correct it, it says im right and makes anothet logical mistake or the same while wording it differently. If you cant trust it with numbers you cant trust it with these type conversations too. It will always apologise and correct but its not a trustworthy source as I said, tested it with an exact science - math. It always sounds right and knowledgable but in maths you can have the most brilliantly written solution and still know for a fact its wrong af.

There is no way, I literally came to this thread to say, "Its definitely better than scissors"

It is way too obvious that this theory is completely wrong. There is one space, there is one time (one spacetime), there are Not Two, Not Three, Not Many verses, there is One Uni-verse, it's in the name. How do I know there are no other? Because space cannot divide itself into two. Its too simple, I can't believe anyone still thinks the Multiverse theory can be true. Also, time-travel obviously can never happen - there is only one time and it is now - all the paradoxes following from time travel will never need to be thought about except for movie reasons, because they can never happen. Isn't it crazy, there is only One you? That's insane. I mean if there were more You's, you'd know it, because you would be them, right? And thats another obvious truth right there. Subscribe for more obvious truths

Yet there is only one you. This kind of disproves this theory right away. For there to be infinite you's you need to be aware of all of them simultaneously, but you are only aware of one you. So the other "You's" that would "look like you" or have same genetic makeup as you are not really you so there are no infinite You's, not even 2. Some would argue there is not even 1 but hey! If you are not aware of right now being here and inside the atom of your right finger, and that other atom and that atom on your bumcheek and a billion you's inside that dustbunny in the corner of your room, then there is not everything inside everything. Disproven it by naming one thing that is not there - you - that means not all things are there. People think they understand infinity when in fact you dont get it, no mere human can get it. A finite being cannot understand infinity, we only have a nice concept and some idea about it, just like 0, it is something we cannot observe and cannot fathom. Did you know that there are more numbers between 0 and 1 than there are countable numbers? And they are both sets of infinite numbers. Hey! That's crazy sh`t right there, tell me again you understand infinity

Leo, I know you discredit mathematics, but it is a solid map when it comes to truth-ing. It is proven that there are infinities bigger than other infinities. If that is the case, you might be stuck inside your infinite mind, thinking it is the biggest infinity, when God is much greater than even that.