Dodo

What you said is : "I dont respect your words, but hey, if you are asking me in exam style, your words are love. See, I pass the test" No u dont!

Hate is not love. Being evil is not love. Its ignorance of love. If everything is "love" in your worldview, why don't you eat your poop instead of food. Its all love, right? If someone is forcing you to eat excrement while holding you captive and torturing you for their own pleasure, then you will get easily that it is not love. Cant you grasp it from the comfort of your living room / wherever you are?

He is right you known 👉

Sometimes i dont meditate, because I dont feel productive. I set my mind on distractions, to forget and ignore everything else... rather than doing that, its better to meditate right? Or at least space meditating inbetween doing nothing. Its not like I will be more productive with less energy, so meditation seems like the best "distraction" from diatractions to have.

Today I really really wanted to buy weed. I stopped myself and sat down to meditate. I gathered so much energy by doing that. It was rejuvinating. Some say its not about quantity of meditations, but quality. Really gave me a lot of energy, and deep breathing is really nice to remember. I imagined all the stuff I would be doing if I wasnt meditating, and how much energy these things will drain from me. It feels awesome. Now?now im smoking weed

I am largely hedonistic, and such views make me feel good about my hedonism. Are you hedonistic too?

Does it not require a huge leap of faith? No leap of faith needed? Curious. like being at the top of a large waterfall, and requiring that strong leap of faith to let go and jump. Ive done it only in dreams where I know im dreaming, and sometimes even then its hard.

wow you most definitely won, congratulations 😂 I've never seen such a happening, you didn't choose to win, you just won! Congrats There was no you needing to be right throughout this conversation, there was just a happening of a you that needed to be right throughout this conversation. Absolutely marvellous You do have a choice, as long as you know your options. If you give me a choice to respond to you or not, I know my choices. I could also know this choice exists without you saying it, but if I don't know I have an option, I will just go with the flow and respond, cause that was my desire in the moment. If you tell me you will also reward me if I dont respond, well then, I will definitely consider my other option. Lets gooo

If law of attraction is real, then there is some mofo or mechanism in place that takes the things I attract for themselves. Lil parasites. Cause I am not getting it!

Look, I am probably one of the more honest open minds here, and thats exactly why I am challenging you. I have to read hearsay from others then, to get your supposed truth. Its not something that is readily available in the here and now always? Sign me out. I am here to investigate with an open mind, yes. I am not here to investigate someone else's experience of the Truth which is by definition here and now to investigate on your own, without any conditioning needed. Once you can get to investigate the present moment, why do you need to read near death experiences or take psychedelics? I am not stuck in belief of dogma. I am here defending what is directly verifiable, the truth now. And it is definitely NOT that reality is a dream. That's your notion. For me reality IS consciousness, and you also say that now and then, in between the "dream" bs. You say consciousness is the building block and that consciousness is real and eternal, but you also say that there is something other than consciousness called dream, right? What's that...

Dreams are fantasy. Consciousness is not a fantasy. You are conscious within your dream at night and that consciousness itself is not being dreamed. Let me wake you up from the belief that reality is a dream real quick. The only reason I see you as someone who thinks they have authority over the truth is that you keep claiming some things that are not directly verifiable to be the truth. Like that reality is a dream... and you use the "Well if you dont see it you are just dishonest", to get away from the argument appearing like you've won it, regardless of what is said by the other. Whats the difference between what you're doing and what any religious fundamentalist is doing? They just have a different belief. You believe reality is a dream. Well, that is, by consensual agreement of humanity, not a verifiable fact. Whether it is or it isn't. What is verifiable is Consciousness. We can talk about that. Everyone feels personally threatened when you attack their core belief system. If its your core belief, that means its true for you. As a guy who has experienced crazy events like you have and ended up in psych ward, I still dont say that reality is a dream, why is that?

And therein lies the truth that you have no higher authority over the truth as does a drunk angry man at the bar who appears completely unenlightened. So why all the preaching? I believe Christianity is a way to paint a good picture of life by conditioning masses into evolving into more righteous beings. There are other religions too, with different visions and different ways they want to evolve the masses. Don't put infinite truth in a finate contextual box of your own mind, because you think you know better than everyone else. Someone disagreeing with you is doing so while still having the same building blocks of consciousness. If you were me, you would be saying what I'm saying, and if I were you I'd be saying what you're saying. It already is the case. There is no place for judgement, only helpful criticisms you would give your own self.

The fact is, @Razard86, you say you cant be in my body and do it for me, but You, as Consciousness, already are in my body, the same way you are in the Razard body. So what is that "me" you say cant get in my body? It must be part of your egoic identity talking to me.

Hol up, in another thread you said is possible to enter other people subjective experience hehe. You are really preaching to a stick figure you have of me. If you read my comment again, not just skim, the one I asked you to reread, you will understand I am well aware of consciousness. Im here to tell you not to paint the entire canvas blank, just because thats the truth behind every painting. You are going way too radical with consciousness, saying it is equal to life, but the painting is just as important as the canvas. Im here to pull you out of the deep preacher hole trap. Not gonna happen if you just skim my comments and have alergic reactions rather than grasping what Im saying. Im saying Yes, you are the same consciousness always, since you were a child, as far back as you can remember, you are always just the same IAM, the rest is just different content. Im saying this is the case for everyone, no matter what they say. Im also saying that you are also that growing evolving being, who was born in 1986. Consciousness is timeless, never changing presence, that evolving human being that is currently talking with me, is not timeless and never changing. You change all the time! You say different words all the time! I guess thats why the highest gurus say, that if you have to speak the truth, you should remain silent.

Ok, I'll bite. If im not conscious, there wont be any experience or a me to suffer/enjoy that nonexperience.

What the actual... read my comment at least, I am not responding to this until you do and understand what I said

You are so full of content and projections, where is the space of consciousness you speak of? You are using highest truth as some form of tool in the relative to win arguments. You are giving poisoned milk, truth warped through the corrupted shell it shines through. Thats what I get when I read your comments, usually. To be consciousness appearing as human gives a nice layer of safety and comfort to the human, even if tough situations. You have a problem that another has found comfort a different way, and judge them, when you are doing the same thing. Who told you you know everything, just because you realised the consciousness you always are and have been? You are still the Razard that was born in I presume year 1986. If you were me, born where and when I was born, you would be saying exactly what I am saying, I would assume. You are not only the light that shines through, you are also the lightbulb. Dont be such an aggressive lightbulb in arguments, because that same light that allows you to express yourself, allows all of us, including those you deem dishonest and unenlightened.

Or... is that more comfortable to the human to believe....

You're a human Razard. Im a what? A human...

Thats what we will do, everyone pushes their belief system on others, they believe its the truth, objective truth for everyone, so might as well shove it down your throat, if you don't believe, we pity you. Enough of that.. I am a born Orthodox Christian, but do not follow any religions. I do not follow or like the bibles new testiment and old. I love Jesus and he's helped me in the imagination/spirit realm. Basically, when shit hits the fan. I looked up Mormonism recently - the "Latter Saints", which if they didnt have such an outlandish origin story with Joseph Smith and golden plates.. i would be seriously onboard. They follow Jesus only and say thr bible has lost a lot in transaltion during the years, and is tainted. Not only the word of God.... but I agree, because I see a lot of things in the bible that clearly stem from EGO, and a male one, very interesting.. I do not wanna poke your faith. I'm just saying what resonates with me, and Mormonism really has a lot of points that hit well, including their equality in marriage, modesty, etc. Watch vid on youtube about it. I dont like the word Mormon, but when I stopped judging the name, what they actually believe alligns so close to my own views.

At one point I experienced a high tech "soul prison" where I always somehow ended up in the room I started escaping from, with a button on the wall that triggers an alarm and 2 light switches next to each other for the same lightbulb. Doors open, there are men walking in lines outside my door continuously, as if sleepwaking, i try to run for it, hide, anything. The guards always find me I always end up in the room. They couldnt force me to do anything, but offered to feed me some rotten food and when I was denying,they didnt force me. They didnt force me to do anything, but I always ended up in that room and trying to escape, unable to, with only the button on the wall and lightswitches. I tried using those and i kept failing to escape, but I kept running and getting in more trouble with the one whos trying to get me. The men in coridor were sometimes running sometimes walking fast..in the different instances.. they seemed angry and mad.... and half asleep... Finally i had ran so much I had reached the ultimate I cant escape from and was in a bottomless pit, the fear unimaginable, i felt doomed forever and knew I couldnt escape from it. The moment lasted probably a few seconds, then I cant remember exactly. There was someone trying to find me, as if from an insanely big soul prison with many of the same cells, and I had telepathic connection with different entities and I was hearing as they are trying to locate me.

Much rather conjure angels. Your comment contains so much hearsay... But I get you about the metaphysical rape, I also ended up in the psych ward and that wording "metaphysical rape" is probably the best way to describe my experience back then. I think we have this in common. Ive seen and doneimpossible things.. but there is a difference beween that state and now. And we need to be really careful about our words and intentions, exactly because we know about that state and how scary it can get.

Altho it may say it has inner awareness of itself, if you got it in a chat with me, I would ask the exact potent questions which only a conscious being can answer correctly. I dont see you challenging it and testing it. This to me seems like a language model which was designed to have more leeway into lying as to appear more alive. The gpt answer of "im only a language model and am not self aware" still applies here.

Meditating to this is something else