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if u chop my hand it will change who I am, because my current form will die. BB()()()()M DEFEATED. And if I am beyond the form, well thats just deep. And we can always go deeper. And we can always be more ourselves. Now, as the deep human being that we are.

Well... Me as a person.. It's a very person-al question. Probably can't explain me as a person right at this moment, because it is beyond words. There are different aspects, dimensions and stuff about me as a person. I can talk about the outside, the shallow etc, I could also talk about the mind, who i am as what I have achieved, or who I am as to what thoughts I am choosing to generate and hold as truth. What believes I hold as truth... Basically many different things that I can delve into so I am not sure how someone can really describe themselves fully 100%. Then comes the question of describing your true self, rather then yourself as a person. We are always ourselves though, aren't we. When someone asks, describe yourself as a person, as you asked, I should just tell them. Well hey, I am a person, if you want a description, do it yourself, because I don't want to waste my time spending hours writing a long essay as to what a person is and what person I am. And there is no right answer either, because you've read somewhere that I am not a person, but a soul. Well maybe I am, but maybe I want to stay hidden behind my human. Maybe there is a reason I am here as this. And I do exist as a person. So I will kindly wait until I am no longer a person, but until then, I am what I am and I cannot escape from it. I also do not want to, because if you want to escape, that means that you are in a nightmare. I am currently waking up from a nightmare, but now things are looking so much brighter and I can see myself smiling again and feeling the joy of life. I love spirituality, because it is giving me constant peace and love in a world that couldn't care less. All that matters is to be a good boy or girl, whatever that means to you. The rest will take care of itself. We have to explode and be / do if we have to, OR WANT TO! Energise ourselves and lift up others too. There's no greater feeling, than feeling energetic and ready for whatever comes your way. Even if you fail, at least you've tried. No shame in failing, the shame is in giving up.

The body is! We should not reject our vehicle, it helps us a lot to live in the so called Matrix. We need to be gentle and kind to our bodies and mind. It is all we have in this dimension... And it's a beautiful gem. We gotta appreciate what mother nature gave us. I mean even if you're not the car, you should still take care of the car, because you don't know how to get out of it at the very least.

But I cant trap myself into no change, i mean change is a fact of life, isn't it

I am feeling the same way, but maybe its how it has to be, to those that are in the rivers still, yet to be joined with the ocean, where we can find peace. I slip up into bad habbits, but it's always nice to remember to not take stuff personally. Even that, that you are back in reaction mode, just acknowledge whatever is happening. If you perceive it as bad - accept it, if it's good - accept it. Be happy even when you are sad. Be calm even behind your reactions, by observing them! It' simple and you already are doing it, but are identified with what you see too much! Just like me!

What i wanted to say but didnt have the guts to. Life a play... Shakespeare stole it from me! Wait no, i mustve been Shakespeare in previous life. Brb going on a Ego trip. It feels fantastic! Can i get a hello there! Sorry im nit funny, but maybe the best answer to this topic is- check out how many pages "enlightenment jokes" thread has. :-D

If you don't believe in the illusion of the ego, you can still act the ego out for normal human interactions, without being lost in it (I guess). Enlightened with ego you can laugh about. Even better! (I guess)

An important part of what ive learned in life, is that its easy once you can laugh at yourself. You then become an endless source of laughter for yourself. A mini enlightenment maybe, maybe :-D. I also think we shouldnt take enlightenment seriously.. We make god laugh when we act so serious, imagine looking at a bunch of serious looking babies... They know nothing, thats why they serious.. :-D Ps: but they think they know it all

No actually, never been a huge fan. Titanic tho... Thats a movie!

But there is always something bigger, isnt there, thats like, rule of infinity. Goes beyond eeligion cause even if there is religious god, there is also something above it. Over every infinity there is more. How long before its realized that there is an enlightenment within the enlightenment? would be funny

if the icecream had a tongue, it would taste itself!!! And then it wouldnt exist, probbly why evolution opted against icecreams with tongues

What makes my I am different than your I am? Is my I am a thought? I thought I am is all there is! Why is my I am always attached to this body. Why cant I experience what you experience, if I am was God... It would be able to do it... Maybe i shouldn't think about it as my experience being important. The universe just poofed this into existence and everything just needs to be itself. No souls, no gods, but still infinite, because of the simple fact that there is no end, ever,so something or someone will keep generating a me in some shape or form. And i will exist again and again. Being part of the infinite ocean. Oh yeah, pls kill me now. Refresh me

Well i can kindly disagree. Im all into the concept that the self is an illusion, but the actual machine/ ship/ body and mind -form do exist even if the I is a mere illusion generated by them. In a way that makes the I exist,oh well, i change my mind again. I do exist!

Love is when a man and a woman /or an lgbt and an lgbt/ make sweet sweet love and share their lives till the end. Because they see the truth in the other and the other sees the truth in them and so... You know, helping each other overcome struggles and have spiritual growth together. Peace

Free will vs Determinism debates have always been weird for me... No free will doesn't imply determinism, it's like forgetting about randomness and my simple theory goes: God is randomness in every direction, and the randomness creates random shit and we are one of that shit that that ball of randomness created. Hurray for randomness! Randomness is pretty hard to produce tho, like even computers can't create real randomness. (If they could, maybe we start looking at real super-AI and that's another story - maybe we get obliterated then) So randomness is everywhere around us and we have no idea how it works. It's an explosion in every direction in every dimension, it's a happening without a cause, because what can be more random! Even the almighty infinity, i.e. god, is probably created by randomness. We create more randomness by every little random decision we do as the captains of our ship (be it ignorant captains) and probably that is something God, being randomness, likes, because we enhance him :D(whatever we choose to do, that's why he always laughin at us, we try to be mean but we always work in his favour! Maybe maybe, who cares tho! x) ) . And then the other God, the boss God, 0, nothingness, will claim us again and we will happen again! If the 1 says so! We just dancing between 0 and infinity, or 0 and 1 - in both those ranges exist infinite amount of numbers inbetween!!!!! OMG!!! One of them is us! Then the gods 0 and 1 and 2 and infinity realize they r 1 god and heaven and hell, and you and me and everything else always exists and is part of this big ass axes (in all infinite dimensions) and then I realize I am rambling too much. And I then realize I do not care because the ppl in this thread say I have no free will so that means i can do whatever I want as the captain of my ship and they will be like he didnt do it! Dont blame the captain, he doesnt even exist. It's the ship that is doing everything on it's own, so why blame the captain. My ego goes unpunished. But don't worry, even the biggest ego doesn't exist if you look at it from the right angle! PS: I am the ignorant captain, I am pointing the way to a machine that I do not understand fully (at all) and I try constantly to take credit for what the machine is doing. Will write a book I feel inspired - or will the ship write the book and me just standing there as the captain showing it the way?? When the captain thinks he is the ship, he can't escape from it if it starts sinking!!!!!! Woah that was sick metaphor lol IMHO randomness stems from the mathematical fact that there are infinite amount of numbers between any 2 numbers, but we can pick and choose which numbers we see, or how far down we zoom and dare to dive into. Start imagining, in your mind going deeper and deeper, more and more numbers after the decimal point, and they keep on increasing and generating infinite amount of new numbers between each of the newly generated infinite amount of numbers - so tiny, but so many! Now think about the big numbers (maybe we are one of those big numbers, multiplications of infinities, growing, as all the other infinities that make us grow from the root stem). That's a hard task, generating all those numbers, isn't it. So The universe itself expands in every direction because at the smallest level, imaginary numbers are expanding as we speak. They can't stop, Change is always there, unless we stay on one number. at the deepest level, beyond what the scientist can see, I think we are expanding numbers, going infinitely deep. Creating infinite possibility. We are children of Mathematics! PS: Ego corner: -trust me i've won math competitions -trust me im a programmer x_x -trust me im not crazy, i just wanted to splash on my keyboard, because of randomness. TLDR: If you read it maybe you will think, oh, that's somewhat interesting if u think bout it - especially the last bit (IMHO), might explain the constant expansion of teh universe n shit.. Are we travelling between 0 and 1? Between Bajjilion and BajillionOne Between nothing and God?... I should stop myself man, before I write another page. ... I mean.... I should tell the crew to stop ship!

Maybe you're thinking too much ? Its annoying I know...

I feel like sharing, I don't know if it's real or fiction, but I have this memory: me and other souls were Just created (we were some sort of energies, not human, more like something like a rainbow) and we were told to go and find the truth. One task. Find the truth and come back to me. Something like that. So I have one truth that my early soul realized: Why different souls have different karma if they are created equal! I was real baby about it actually! I mean its obvious why we have different karma, it's because we have different starting directions. We can only have the same karma, if we are the same thing, because we might be the same, but the environment gives us different challenges and different insights, hence different decisions to make and different karma. I also remember that I held on to this truth thinking its the ultimate truth, and it was just the first thing I got, so I slowed down afterwards, maybe depressed, depressed soul, because I knew the truth but I didn't know what to do with it, and I was slowing down, because I wasn't searching anymore! But that wasn't the truth I was after in the first place, I believe. Maybe the truth us souls were after is the truth we are after right now. Who am I. Maybe all the pain humanity has gone through is just the way for the souls that we are can find the ultimate truth and return to the starting point. When a new journey might begin -

Lol, well, sometimes we are just SURE that we wrote it down correctly and don't want to admit to ourselves that it was wrong. I've had such situations too and it's just the anger response and the ego saying : I can't be wrong, fuuuuuu computer

Last night as I was going to bed, I put this on: I listened without headset/headphones while falling asleep, which probably makes it less potent, but I had small glimpses of something very deep. I was focusing my eyes on my third eye, as I do in some of my meditations. Probably was on the verge of a so called enlightenment experience. (I will not try to explain the things I "saw", because words are inadequate and also the glimpses were very short. Also it might have just been the hypnagogia talking, but more powerful than usual.) The thing is I remember incredible peace! As I remember it, the peace was something probably equivalent to you being underwater, but you are a sea creature, so you don't need to go up to breathe, so you feel perfect piece, surrounded by the lovely water. Of course there was no water, that was just how I can compare my experience. Later I felt something on the top of my head, as if some hard ball was pushing on the top of my skull. I thought I was touching the wall with my head so I touched it and I wasn't. It was coming from the inside, I guess. Is it possible this was the crown chakra activating? I've been listening to frequencies and etc before, but for the first time this frequency and this seems to have the biggest impact. Also the comments below it seem promising. Will try meditating to this tonight, but with headphones and see what happens. Any of you tried this before?

You won't know what I am talking about when I say life to it's fullest potential, until you know. I can't tell you, but if you look into spirituality you might find out before you crash. The businessman is more likely to be attached to things. The poor man is less likely to. The businessman is more likely to be living always in the future, in his mind. The poor man is less likely to. Of course you probably can be an enlightened businessman, but I think you gotta be pretty wise to do that. Sure, make money, live, but remember to look for the truth in the present moment, or your life just might be wasted in distraction.

I feel that whenever this "mental masturbation" as Leo likes to say goes on, it is just the mind trying to say, but wait, I can fit infinity within me, I am capable, just give me another shot and I will explain it. We have to let go, not go further, even tho we think we are getting a better sense for infinity. There are infinite infinities and if we even understand one infinity (we won't) then there are infinitely more to investigate. But the mind keeps trying! Maybe mentally masturbating myself, just had a mentalgasm.

Don't know if you want any other comments in this, but I wanted to ask if you can explain the Maharshi's self inquiry?

Easiest if you let your brain think, have belief and act the same way as it always does, just don't identify with it. You are that which experiences all that. There you go, a head start, begin now @Ross I believe the rest will happen for you by itself if you stick to trying to observe the "I am" from the place before "I am". PS: For me, the place before "I am" is nothingness. So imagine nothingness in your mind, and the thing that is seeing that nothingness is the true nothingness, or that which you are.

Unless it's written in the stars, ay?

Yeah, Ekhart Tolle has videos on that. Just try to keep presence in the inner body during your days while you are walking/doing whatever as a practise. I've been doing it whenever I remember, of-course xD. Just focus on breathing and keep some attention on the inner body, even when you're talking to somebody.