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if you and everything is formless, there is no such thing as 50 feet in the air, where is your freedom. Stop intellectualizing. Follow what Eckhart is saying, I know you don't respect my words that much, im just some dude you drew a stick figure of on a forum. Im bound to be wrong in your mind before you even read and understand what Im saying, because you have an idea of me.

How is absolute freedom being everything? If that was the case you are not free to not be everything? You are limited as to not being able to be limited. Please less conceptual thinking. Stop trying to grasp it or to think you grasped it, or that you can ever grasp it. What you are saying is complete nonsense from where I stand. @gettoefl I got this for you, but I intuit Razard also needs to hear this particular talk. It's exactly what we are discussing. I know Razard is somewhat of a fan of Eckhart, so I am always confused when he sounds so much like he can't stop thinking even for a second and always analyses everything around him. Tell me if im being harsh Razard, just how I see it when you try to tell me what Absolute Will is, without having Absolute Will ( I know that cause you have no control over my bodymind, as a simple example, but I have other examples too)

Might not be able to escape the programming, but I can tweak it, ex programmer here. Eckhart Tolle talks about something CRAZY. How about, a way you can actually stop thinking? You might have heard about that. Now if you didn't have the choice to stop thinking sure, you're at the whim of your thoughts! But what if you knew how to stop thinking and break the chain of the mind ? Already starting to see some freedom there.

You are again talking about absolute freedom. You can have that in a lucid dream, depending on how strong you become in lucid dreaming. In "Dreams of Awakening" book Charlie Morley (author) claims that you can have dreams where you can choose absolutely everything you can change scenery at will everything, closer to the absolute will you are talking about. That type of will is not relevant to waking life. How can you grow if you are not limited in some way? Forget about unlimited power, that is the dark side talking.

I wanted to post a thread like a week ago on the bolded statement, absolutely agree. I went against my impulse and did not post about it. To post or not to post, that is the question. I am the same me either way. I have the free will to choose whether to post or not post. I don't think the God of the bible lied about free will. What if next time you have an important decision to make (not the trivial example I gave perhaps, but it could be that also), you realise you also have the option to sit down, meditate on it, try to focus and clear distractions and make a choice from that state? I'm sure if you perform even a 5 minute meditation before you make the decision (which is your choice, btw), the outcome might be way different. Even if you choose to do the same as you "would have" without taking the silent space. As humans, we do not have Absolute free will, that I agree. We are being too radical always here on the forum, you either have 100% freedom of will or 0% freedom of will. What was that saying, "only a Sith deals in absolutes". Holds true. To me it is mainly about knowing you have a choice. Knowing what choices you have, and knowing what is out of your control. We need to be able to accept the things we have no control over, and we also need to acknowledge the things we do have control over. Start moving your hands spontaneously right now. What is stopping you? Tell me you are not free to spontaneously move your hands right now any way you like? Yes you can't move your hands like a superhero or transform them into something else, but within the Human framework, you have full control of your hands (unless they are damaged somehow) and you have the choice what spontaneous movements to make, no one ever can convince me that there is no free will in that, in dancing, in laughter, in love, in play . You can choose to show a middle finger too, you can choose to clap, you can choose to slap. you can choose many things, you might even choose not to think about it and be completely spontaneous, or you can choose to think about it. There is choice available at every level. If it never crossed your mind that you can clap for example, you don't have the freedom to choose that option, but after knowing the option exists, it is now part of one of your many choices. Its simple and obvious stuff, why is it being overlooked?

Come on, brother. We didn't arrive that there are not many moments? There is only This moment, ever. Time to wake up from your dream of many moments. I thought we have both arrived at the understanding that what happens in the now is not the now? You dont have absolute free will, as in to shape and mould every content the way you want etc, but you have the free will to choose how to respond in any situation. The situation is out of your conscious control, the way you approach it is not. We both know this. Only overthinking and generalising is keeping you from agreeing. I know in your heart of hearts you know you have a choice, always. Ps: about God, I would prefer not to talk about God, unless you are God. Cause I believe certain aspects of God can be quite disciplinary, like a strong father figure who might whoop your *ss for your own higher good. Psps: I acknowledge I sound like a knowitall, I simply believe its a directly verifiable fact. I am talking to you with no nonsense and sugar coating, and I'm not even your enemy btw.

Alex needs to look up Chaos Theory. Now think of a system where the original input slightly changes, the entire system changes drastically. Now think of a system where there are constantly new inputs coming in from the depths of the Void/Consciousness, out of thin air, at "every moment". Basically i think he assumes that he lives in a world where the big bang happened long time ago and he lives in the aftermath, while in truth, the big bang is happening even now as we speak. There is no place for determinism here. There is always fresh input possible, seemingly out of nowhere that changes the system and its course. The power of consciousness / present moment (shoutout to Eckhart Tolle btw). Idk how much sense that makes to you, but it does to me.

After continuously getting the song name wrong, even after providing it with perfect lyrics from it. I had to say the name for it to realise. Very human like that it didn't get it originally, but not very helpful. I always have trouble using it to remember song names. Its horrible at that! enjoy this beautiful song, which was beyond ChatGPT's reach, they weren't wrong that good music is so hard to find!

wtf, I was waiting for the song to start, and then it ended. WTF. Definitely agree to disagree if that's your top pick

What, you want Shimshai Suddhosi Buddhosi?

Gpt4 is a paid product, correct? Never promote to me pay to win gaming.

How come it recited the lyrics after I told it the name, if it doesnt have access? Maybe is just too dumb version, I dont buy the other excuse

From what I've read, kundalini is a distraction, but yeah, real.

Hey, my friend from long ago Loreena been checking Razard's ego in my absence, just checked her last few posts from that post in my thread Love that girl.

It was just me trying to represent my understanding of the Truth, but looking back at that thread, I sound robotic and preachy, kind of like Princess Arabia. It's clear it was only intellectual level understanding and I wasn't living it, I most likely still am not there. But I cringe now when I read my responses in that thread, even if they are intellectually right :

Nice vid, reminds me of something I posted here years ago at the start of my "spiritual journey". I recently found the notebook in which I drew it, here:

Depends how you say it Its because you always voice your opinion strongly, as if its coming from a someone, while saying there is no one lol

if the question is not "What the fuck?" you're being dishonest

She read from reputable source that there is no one here, so she parrots it hey I've done that myself, no judgement.

Lol i saw this on reddit yesterday and upvoted it lol. Another thing funny with infinite circle is that every point within it can be considered as its center.

if you can even watch this with open honest self reflection, I solute you, you don't have to agree.

there again "Its all X, where X is 0" is not the same as not calling everything the same thing lol... but nice try. In tennis they say Love for score of 0.

Nah, just don't say "its all -anything-" why do you need to put everything in a box that you think you understand? You really can't let a mystery be a mystery, so easy to detect an egoic mind.

You are available, you just say the same bs that all is love, and ran out of ways to defend your weak position. Its chess. Consider yourself mated ;>

Posting hearts is also not love. You know what is love? When you drop your pretences and tell me exactly whats on your mind and exactly what you agree and disagree with, without passive aggressively replying to everything that it is love. You are not even replying to the content of what is being said. My words can be seen as random hieroglyphs that mean nothing, but you could also try to grasp the meaning of them. They are only signposts, and you completely ignore what they point to. If someone is torturing you and its not for your own good, then thats not love. Believe it or not. I dont care how many hearts you post in reply.