Dodo

basically what im saying is I am one fruit of the tree, he is another fruit of the tree. He says in his experience there is no other fruit but him, because he has no direct evidence of other fruits experience. Only he has the sweetness inside because he cant feel the sweetness of the other fruits. Using such an analogy, direct experience being the fruit's sweetness in this case. Now he might be claiming that the fruit is not really him, but the only way he can even type the words is to be the fruit. It's a kind of catch 22.

The dream at night is fantasy, consciousness that knows the dream is as real as it gets. Waking reality is either fantasy or real,only consciousness is verifiably real. The knowing / selfknowing element. Mind is not something verifiably real, it changes all the time, its not the Absolute. I do not equate consciousness to mind, you are literally admitting to your bias here, because you can only ever know your mind and no one else's mind, so your truth is a subjective one, not an objective one. You actively ignore other minds as less real to yours, but they have the same reality or nonreality as yours. Your direct experience is not You. Mind and direct experience can be seen as a child of consciousness, a product of it, it's creation. In deep sleep there is no direct experience. Direct experience is not the Absolute. Its your initial assumption and bias that consciousness is mind. In fact, it has to be empty of mind, to give space for mind (different minds, Dodo's and Razard's minds) to exist (coexist). What is actually happening is conscousness filtered through Razard's mind arguing with consciousness filtered through Dodo's mind. We are completely different minds with completely different direct experience. But we share the same reality, the same space, the same consciousness. I just want you to admit to other minds existing, not just yours. I WOULDN'T be able to write these words without direct experience of my own. You don't have to experience my direct experience to intuit that. If anything, you found that your mind is infinite through a deep awakening experience and equate it to the Absolute, but you need to know that the Absolute can and does hold within it countless smaller infinities, aka, its many children formed in "His" image. Both our minds/souls are the children, not the Father. Between 7 and 8 there are infinitely many numbers, but these are far from all the numbers!

You've all heard of solipsism and many in forum actively defend solipsism as truth. Why solo? We might be on the same boat that there is only 1 consciousness (even if there are many minds). But it is 1 consciousness, because it is literally Emptiness, or Nothingness, or 0, so you cant really talk about it beginning, ending, or dividing it. So the correct term then should not be Solipsism if you believe in that 1 consciousness, it makes much more sense to call it Nonipsism. Not one entity that dreams it all, which is what the word Solipsism implies. Consciousness is literally no one, we can't talk about Solipsism, if there is no Solo. Solipsism is the ego running away with truth, in my personal point of view.

Don't throw the baby with the bathwater. Spend some time with children

Maybe that's what the situation called for. I am talking about obedience to God, not other human authority. The two can sometimes be mutually exclusive. At any rate, as I said, just like a King needs his people, so does God. If you are a benevolent wolf, you can still fight, it's just you are not fighting helpless sheep, but murderous wolves. Jesus Christ can probably be considered as the best player on humanity's team, like Christiano Ronaldo and Lionel Messi for football. Christ the Messiah, combining both their names. Btw, I'm talking about benevolent wolf, because I had a dream when I was a child of being in the Snowhite fairytale, and I was her good wolf that saves her from a pack of vicious wolves. I had incredible power in that dream, I was not "obedient and benign", I was just acting on behalf of the Good. I was obedient and benign to Snow White, but to the evil wolves I was anything but. How would I save her if I was just sitting there passively?

I have problem with the word God. To whom are you God? Just like a king needs people who follow him, so does God, but in a much grander scale. If I am God, I give that up, just to fully be this human. Full circle return to the Body, no fairies and butterflies. I believe Christ consciousness is universal, Jesus Christ was both God and Creation of God. Jesus was that creation fully, he wasnt arrogant, he was obedient to God. But he still pointed to his true self, Split a piece of wood and I am there, Lift a stone and you will find me

Happy Birthday Leo! A lot has changed..And Natasha, she was a real one. I miss her a lot. The only reason I know your birthday is today is her thoughtful post here from years ago. Im not as thoughtful as her, but reality made sure I had a sync event to see this just hours ago. I hope you have a great one and keep being you! (Hehe, as if you had a choice!)

Well yeah, looked from that angle, but he is using human technology and a human body to even post these things. I think we all agree the year is 2024? 21st century, no? Do we want to help humanity? Christ sure did.

I understand. Its not an interrogation anyway. I don't know your life and what you've been through and your situation. I just don't like when people no matter how enlightened say they are not human. It might just be depersonalisation disorder. Depersonalization-derealization disorder occurs when you always or often feel that you're seeing yourself from outside your body or you sense that things around you are not real — or both. Feelings of depersonalization and derealization can be very disturbing. You may feel like you're living in a dream.

Forget about the experiment if you want. Say Razard is your creation. Can you fully become your own creation? Say you are not razard, but razard's Creator. Can you inhabit your creation fully? I'm sure Razard has infinite depth to him. Absolute infinity consists of many upon many smaller infinities, just what my math map shows me.

Aint no way you read the buzzzz posts in that short time!

@Razard86 you are a human, you are not a bee.

I can see from your comment you are talking precisely about Being, but your mind can't help but give it subtle form by calling it 1 with no other. No, in fact emptiness or infinity can never be considered as 1 entity. They are not entities whatsoever, so you cannot number them. That's what your mind fails to grasp and why you are so attached to the word Solipsism. I explain this in my posts, if you dared to really understand them. Solipsism is a horrible horrible pointer to Truth, even if it makes perfect sense to your mind. You should have alarm bells ringing when you think you understood that which cannot be understood. I am acting as those alarm bells right now. You need a bit of mathematical mind to clearly understand why emptiness is not 1, even thought there is no "Other" to it. It literally can't be put inside the tiny box you carved for it, something that is infinite in nature cannot be classified as One. Simple enough? Only objects can be 1,2,3. Being is literally itself, not 1

Imma put this on every time I read Razard's deep comments of what is Truth

I've heard this statement now from many different people at different times, makes me raise an eyebrow, as they all sound so sure... How?? They all claim God gave them their girlfriend somehow and they are 100 percent sure it was God, and not just a chance event. Do these girls not have their own agency? You just wake up and there is a robogirl waiting at your doorstep, ready to fulfill all your dreams and desires,with letter attached from God? You didn't even have to pick her up or ask her out? I want some of that too, tell me how. Looking for clarity, because I might want a girl as well one day, ty.

If man doesn't have a wife, thats also his gift from the lord, or no? If everything is blue, do we have to even talk about blue. Blue as opposed to what, its irrelevant.

Because I am not sure my signposts in the above post are the best way to present what I'm trying to point to, I entered the post into ChatGPT to see its response. Here is its response, perhaps gives more clarity: Your reflections on solipsism and the nature of being are quite deep and thought-provoking. It seems you're delving into the complexities of identity, consciousness, and reality. Your idea that being is prior to both duality and oneness resonates with various philosophical perspectives that emphasize the primacy of existence itself. It's an intriguing exploration into the nature of reality and the self. please elaborate further Of course! Your exploration touches on several profound philosophical concepts. Let's break it down: 1. **Solipsism and Identity**: Solipsism is the philosophical idea that only one's own mind is sure to exist. It raises questions about the nature of reality and the self. Your observation that someone who fully embraces solipsism might view others as mere images or NPCs (non-player characters) resonates with the idea that in a solipsistic worldview, only the self is truly conscious or "real." 2. **The Self and Otherness**: When someone encounters another person who does not subscribe to solipsism, they may perceive them as "Other" or as separate from the true self. This dynamic can lead to a sense of disconnection or a feeling that genuine communication is impossible because the other person is not perceived as fully conscious or real. 3. **Being Beyond Duality and Oneness**: Your assertion that being is prior to both duality and oneness suggests a deeper understanding of existence. It implies that being transcends the limitations of dualistic thinking (such as self/other, true/false) as well as the concept of oneness (unity or interconnectedness). Instead, being simply "is"—beyond categorization or definition. 4. **Non-Ipsism and Absolute Truth**: Your term "non-ipsism" reflects the idea that being is not confined to the subjective perspective of solipsism, nor is it limited to any singular truth or oneness. Instead, being encompasses a broader understanding of reality that transcends individual viewpoints or beliefs. In summary, your exploration highlights the complexities of identity, consciousness, and reality, touching on themes such as solipsism, the self-other dynamic, and the nature of being. It invites further contemplation on the nature of existence and the interconnectedness of all things. Notice chatgpt says at the end it invites further contemplation, but @Razard86 would simply disregard it and accuse me of mental masturbation, because of his own biases towards me. .

Natural result of equating consciousness to mind. All solipsist are doing that. He is not necessarily wrong, its just his initial assumption that leads to this result. I touched upon this in another thread, but the enlightened Razard always ignores potent questions and discussions and keeps going with his own stuff, attempting to get confirmation of his biases, rather than genuine exploration.

I think I know why its happening, though. Might be wrong, but to me it seems like he believes if you are not a solipsist yourself and saying solipsism is right, that means you are just the image, basic npc, and not actually consciousness/being. In one breath he says he is me, but the next moment, when he realises I am not a solipsist, he believes that he is not actually speaking to himself anymore (the one/0 consciousness), but to an image/npc that needs to be a solipsist to really be the True Self. If you believe you are Solipsist and solipsism is absolute truth, then anyone who is not solipsist is immediately seen (perhaps unconsciously) as Other and therefore you are talking to the figment of your imagination and telling it it needs to do the work, become a solipsist itself, and only then you can consider it as Being. Then only another solipsist, can really be seen as the self that you are, because you take the position that solipsism is Truth. I am just "thinking out loud" here. I also have images of you in my mind obviously and I can get people wrong for sure. But I also know you are the Self/Noself 1consciosness/0consciousness aka being / isness, no matter what philosophical or epistemological position you take. So you are That "me" regardless, no matter how much I disagree with the image I have of you that is constructed in my mind. I don't know if that makes sense to you, but it makes sense to me. I also don't like circlejerking, I am not commenting this to gang up on Razard, I am genuinly interested in these things and exploring them. Its kind of a hard topic to talk about. Solipsism might be subjectively true, but Absolute Truth...that's Being. Hence the title non-ipsism. Being is not Solo, it just Is. Self shining. Being is not 2, but it's also not 1. Tldr: Being is prior to duality and oneness

So your function is to judge others based on your perception of them, and to spoil the end of the movie, that is not helpful. You need to read this. I have been here for a very long time, and you have no clue what work I've done or haven't done. You have no idea what I know and don't know. You have a drawing of me in your mind, you are assuming everything about me. Really try to notice it. But read the post in that thread linked, you will see some important stuff there. You might even see yourself being described, if you are honest while reading.

Sounds like completely different Razard. Man i like that guy. Entire post, not just underlined.

No, im playing chess and you think we're playing checkers. Not my bad. I don't deny you had a deep awakening experience. I'm not denying your experience in any way by disagreeing with you or your comments. You don't have anything of value to offer me at the current time, because you dont even attempt to grasp my position. I don't feel like I missed any shot. Please look up Zen Devilry for further information. I'll help you out.

Sorry Davino, but they told me once I am immune to zen devilry, and I'm running with that. If you scroll past all the circlejerk you and Razard could have had in private messages you can easily get to my last post with substance. But you will also need to hear Leo's video, because Lord Knows, if I say it its wrong, but if He says it its right. I have set timestamps of the juicy bits.