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Infinity means infinity. Those 0s are still being added in the present moment. But of course it's only one zero which implodes due to it's infinity Creates 0*infinity and everything else follows. Boom! I do say later in the post that inf*0 is an undefined real number. I said 0=0*infinity, because of the simple observation 0 = 0+0+0....+0 (infinity amount of times, meaning you can always add 0 to 0 and it will remain 0, you can do it infinitely long and arrive at the same 0. Let's say that inf = 1/0. Then inf * 0 would be (1/0) * (0/1) = 0/0. This means that inf * 0 is undefined. 1/0 is already undefined the following steps not needed. Infinity is also undefined and 0 is undefined. The definitions can only point to them. Infinity times 0 can be any number. Have you looked around at the diversity?

I did, but it's irrelevant here. If 0 was anything other than emptiness, 0+1 would be more than 1. Thats as much maths as you need to know for a fact that 0 points to emptiness. I dont see why you would argue the point. Its incredibly simple. You need to be able to see beyond the labels here. Visualise a 3d axis and see what i mean by each step. Notice how the point 0,0,0 is the dot center of the axis. That doesn't mean that the dot exists. You can define a triangle too, it doesn't mean that it exists. You can define a lot of things that do not exist, that's what maths prooves again and again. Lets also get spiritual : You can also define yourself, that doesnt mean you exist.

You say it's 2 elements, but have you seen either in reality? roflmao They both point to emptiness (as explained with first post). The entire world points to emptiness.

For me mathematics is not about definitions, it's about pure and simple logic. About using what is given to you in order to find the solution. ALso @Toby have you considered the "Both option"? Im not saying what you're saying is wrong, I'm saying that both are right. Thats why emptiness is God, it is absolutely everywhere if you dig deep enough. 0 = no thing Emptiness = no thing no thing = no thing no thing = definition/pointer for emptiness 0 = definition/pointer for emptiness It really couldn't be any simpler. I don't know how it could be any other way. You're putting way too much baggage on the symbol 0, which even as a symbol is like circling of empty space within. It's exactly what it points to. Emptiness @Toby you are caught red handed! ^ This itself is a definition for emptiness. Does it mean it is untrue??? Hehehehe!!!! I see double standards!!!!!!

I just see the edit: i am really happy with this one! It's basically saying the same thing. You cannot define a field without emptiness. It's right in your face. Emptiness is also a label, but you're using it?? Completely contradicts what you're trying to enforce: So it cannot represent emptiness as emptiness "should" go beyond "something" and definitions. Why would emptiness not have a definition. A definition is only anothet type of pointer, not the thing. Hehe.

So if you learned something in school it means it's 100% pure Gold? Tell me this, why cant 0 be both pointing at emptiness and at the same time defining all those things? That does not disprove anything, it only shows that emptiness defines reality. You're just going the wrong direction in this observation. 1 cow - 1 cow = 10 spiders - 10 spiders = x - x = Emptiness = 0 Sometimes too much knowledge is a bad thing @TobyToby TobyToby

This is just mental masturbation here. Zero cannot point to anything other than pure emptiness. It is the definition of the word itself. Just because you can do maths with it does not mean it is not pointing to emptiness. It means more that entire field of maths is about things that do not exist, but are helpful to think about. I know mathematicians did not want for a long time to place a label on 0, because they didn't want to put something to point to nothing.

This is super basic Loree, that's why I could write it out

Ofcourse hehe, 0 is a label pointing to emptiness, I think we should be pass explaining that point. I cant show you pure nothingness in a post, but I can talk about it. Why don't you have a problem with dots, lines and planes, since they are also not the label? Also every word ever spoken lol... Actually, considering thay everything is emptiness, this post including all labels in it, even those that arent the label 0 are the emptiness itself so there! I did put emptiness on a post for you after all, you just are not seeing it as a 3d entity, just like you arent seeing dots, lines and planes.

@The Universe after you know who you are, there is nothing more to be done. I mean it's just a game from here on. You're a lucid dreamer, congratulations.

Is Leo standing up or sitting down? -Lao Tzu No, but seriously! Please tell us! The people need to know! Added a poll for the people!!! If you wish, you can submit your reasons for why you voted the way you voted! Vote has a 25% chance to correctly predict the right answer!!! Better than nothing, right?! If Leo tells, the vote is nullified (Obviously)! (Then the question would be refrased: Is he telling the truth and then we think: yeah, He's never lied to me. Ever.) ( But still I want video proof ! Shoot a big REVEAL! Blow our minds!) Kind Regards, Dodoster.

You don't experience enlightenment, you are enlightenment

What do you mean ?

But yes, as awareness it's really fun to explore this dream!!!! @Hero in progress

The thing is, you seem to be mixed up still. I explained that I am not the body as well. Because I am experiencing a body does not mean that I am the body. Just because I am merged with experience and even Ego, doesn't mean that I am that. I am completely merged with it, but also completely untouched by it. If I can be aware of it, it is not me. Period. It may be made of me, but it's not me. So I am completely free and untouched by any of it. It can pretend and scream all it likes that it's me, but the jig is up. Ego has no way to survive now!!! GAME OVER!

Yes, that's why let's hammer this point home for anyone who has not yet grasped it. The truth is here, if you know you are awareness, you know as much as you need to know on the level of words. There is no better pointer to the True Self than saying the pointer. I am awareness. This pointer is always true, because only awareness can be aware. If something is true, you can say it without second guessing yourself. Because you know that it is true. You also know that it is true for absolutely everybody else too. Finding out that you are awareness is not the end of the story. It's the beginning of now. If you don't know you are awareness, you are still awareness, but an awareness that is not aware that it is actually awareness, so this makes you unconscious of your true nature. It's pretty big and super simple at the same time. Namaste!

He is not the body, this statement makes unnecessary identification with the object in awareness and brings unnecessary confusion to something simple. The body is a collection of sensations and functions which arise inside you. You are the consciousness, it's not that you are a person in consciousness. The person is the Ego. If you, awareness become aware of the Ego, the Ego will be disproved in your own experience - this is how it dissolves. This is liberation. It's really so in our face. Liberation is super simple, it's who we are OMG?? Nobody else getting excited over this?? LOL

Get guided to recognition that you are awareness. Go deeply into it. As soon as you become aware that you are awareness, you basically are enlightened.

Simply put, if you are aware, you are awareness. The thing is you are aware that you are aware. To be aware of something means to know something experientially. This is experiential knowing that you are awareness. Because only awareness can be aware. You are aware that you are aware, but are you aware that you are awareness? I'm talking to you, not the body. The body is a packet of sensations in your awareness. This small recognition is so super powerful @Brivido

Yes @Loreena those are the ones I have on my phone

Hahaha omg, yesterday I spent a considerable amount of time trying to find emojis like this. We must be in sync I wasn't able to, I'll have to involve my phone

I was at this little heaven almost all day. Spring is beautiful. My phone died, I was free of all need to think or do. I felt so free and happy, at peace, at home, where nothing is expected, huge weight lifted of my shoulders. Also did some stretching!

WOAH Shin is on the meta self talk spiritual path sensing his own ego through the screen

Monkeying around. I was at the park, I needed to add a picture to the best post ever, but then my phone battery died and I was just there, at this amazing place, became one with it, I was just sitting there by the small river in perfect peace and silence. Feeling at home with nature. <3

You are home. You dont need to think about absolutely anything. Because you are home.