Dodo

Day two, feeling great so far. I haven't drunk coffee either these past 2 days. It's seems like without the energy drainer, I do not need to shove the coffebeens up my throat! 2 habbits 1 cup I feel no cravings other then the occasional thought about my fear of sliding back into it. Because I've done it so many times before. To talk yourself into one last cig or one last pack. The thing is, the time is always now so pls Dodoego don't be a smartass. Cannot quit tomorrow, can only quit now.

I agree with this one. Life is much more enjoyable free of addiction. But then my mind steps in. I am not the body or the mind? Then I am never addicted, even if they are. So why would it in any way be bad for my spiritual realisation? This is usually how I return to a habbit. It has been outlined before by Leo and others that this often happens, spiritual bypassing. Using enlightenment as a free pass to do anything. I've learned my lesson and I acknowledge this as Ego defence mechanism.

Today, I had not that many cravings. Why? Because I feel like I've actually had enough. The cigarettes were in my pocket. Half a pack, they still are. I didn't touch any of them and am waiting for my friend Leo to show up so I can gift them to him, instead of throwing them away like I did with countless previous packs. With the cigarettes in my pocket this first day has been more than success. Yesterday when I smoked a cig, it tasted horrible. I don't know how. Maybe it was the weed I smoked before it, but man, I couldn't finish that shit. I waited 5 mins, lit up another and again, it tasted the same, like crap. Like how could this be, how can I enjoy it one moment and the next, suddenly my first hand experience changes. The cigarette hasn't changed. It must be something inside that does not want me to continue this. I have heard countless times that the addiction drops by itself. If my taste experience is not something I control, then maybe just that is happening. Ofcourse I am proceeding with caution. I already refused to go out today with one of my trigger-friends, because of fear of backsliding. It's the first day, after all. Might as well be careful. I feel good. No smoking makes me feel sensations within, which usually aren't there when I'm poisoning myself.

This has gone too far. There's not enough nonsense. Yall are making sense to me Except I want to ask, is your enlightenment a circlejerk?

1 week without cigarettes. I don't plan on coming back either, but I want to do this 1 week without something to check whether I'm addicted to it. As Leo said, if you have cravings during the first week without, you're addicted. 29/06/2017-06/07/2017 - Come rain or shine, I will not allow the cancer sticks in my mouth anymore. My goal is to quit for good ofcourse. Main reasons : Family, Osho and Loreena :-D 07/07/2017-14/07/2017 - No Actualized.org 15/07/2017-22/07/2017 - No watching movies/series and no gaming. 23/07/2017-30/07/2017 - No ☕ coffee 31/07/2017-07/08/2017 (Boss level) - No ALL OF THE ABOVE

I also want to raise the question of Why do people say it's the easiest thing. Obviously the easiest or easier thing is to be trapped in your addictions. An undoing of addictions can be seen as non doing, but it is way more than that. Talking about any addiction, but ofcourse mostly about addition to Ego. It took the OP 5 years for the cleanse and yet it's the simplest thing. Maybe once you are there it is. Someone who is not addicted on cigarettes would say it's the simplest thing not to smoke. Not the case for those addicted, also there are different degrees of addiction which would make the cleanse shorter or longer, I guess. So if another person says enlightenment is the simplest thing, im telling you my ego will burst from anger, self destroy out of rage, and I'll be here enlightened saying how easy it is.

That's interesting to me, because whenever I self enquire, I always see it as zooming out from whatever content appears in my self inquiry.(because the one who is aware is obviously not the content appearing, so I go towards the one who is aware, hence zoom out from the content that arises) I will make sure to visualise your suggestion

That's nice when we catch both points in the same place. Let's have some options for fun 1) Truth (reality) is objective (not about first hand experience at all) 2) Truth (reality) is subjective (all about first hand experience) 3) Truth (reality) is when subject and object are one 4) Truth (reality) is when subject and object are no more (0) I guess many have said already that there is no subject, that the subject is an illusion aka Ego, but at the same time that there is no objective reality either (no out there, it's all in you) - obviously if there is no subject, there is no object. So from that I gather that subjective and objective truths are both illusory and part of the egoic paradigm. I guess the Tao te ching already told us that

There is extra risk when we are talking about someone who is an active member of club non-attachment (aka spirituality)

Thesis : Other people don't exist Antithesis : Other people do exist The truth is the middle point between these two

@Snick This can also be seen as tough love. I already posted the video which showed me it is exactly this. The Ego does not enjoy tough love. It wants butterfly love <3. The thing is, the Ego is not destined to have Love, freedom or any of the goodies that are our true nature. If an entity can lose freedom, it is not who I am. This development is perfect example of how to again identify that you are not THAT. Haha! I am not the forum user, because the forum user just lost his freedom. After all, it has been clearly stated in the rules that "this is not a democracy", so there is no place for rebellion the way I see it. I give thanks for the clearer seeing.

I try to keep my joker vs non-joker content spread out. The goal of joker-like comments and threads is not for reputation or for spilling out mental diarrhea xD, but to keep things lighter and maybe even give a few smiles. It gets confusing, when consciousness, meditation and spiritual is about love, acceptance and tolerance and encompasses everything. Harder ro know what is acceptable, because insight can come from even the dumbest comment, that can flick a switch or cause a clear seeing. There is a thing like threshold and I agree that the content designed to keep this place less heavy should be kept to a minimum, since apparently the threshold has been reached. It should at least be limited to the enlightened jokes section I guess.

It's the video that helped me let go of the silly thought that kept reoccurring, I was repeating his post to myself as if I wanted to feel hurt about it. Classic egoic bait. Leo is not your common teacher.

Insightful

@Prabhaker "Just hearing that he is free to smoke was enough to bring a great smile to him – he has not smoked yet, but all the withdrawal symptoms disappeared!" This is so incredibly true and I can confirm it from my own experience.

I started smoking because I wanted to die I still want (Ego death )

By the way, did you read what was written? What exactly does a point with infinitely small radius sound like to you? Mathematics is a tool of course, I didn't claim otherwise btw! We use tools to get results. Meditation - tool, This forum - tool, The body - tool, what is the point of labeling them tho, just let everything be and respect creation a bit, there needs to be an equilibrium.

There is no Truth = Truth is nothing Mathematics has nothing to do with nothing Sounds like it is spot on to me!

For me it depends on what the knowledge is. If it is truth, then yes. Mathematics is one example of truth and thinking in terms of mathematics and spirituality can bring clarity. Here is an excerpt from one Kabbalah book written by a very respectable Bulgarian author Ivan Nikolov, which added another level of clarity to my spiritual practise (and this was just from chapter one... Beautiful to contemplate this book)

Balance between the two! Almost always the answer is balance. However, in my view closed eyes brings about more insights, because your attention is not being flooded with visual information.

Don't be mean to retards, comparing them to me, you're super harsh to them Laughter is a medicine

Then it is immortal, win win

I want to escape and I found the best way to escape! If there is no I one day, my current illusory I will have successfully escaped :-D

I usually don't say for the opposite reason lol. I dont want to sound like I am all high and mighty and don't care for being a "normal" human being, because of my deep desire to transcend. rofl