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Yeah, I had this question recently and I really am baffled. I've even seen the belief floating around that life itself is a sin. Meaning that it's something bad and turns out we are the devil itself... I mean could be.. Can anyone with more understanding and experience please shed light on this? Why are most things I like to do considered sins (therefore I tend to beat myself up / feel bad about myself when I do them -as if I am not doing what is spiritually correct) ?

This is the best place to be in. I am there with alcohol - I'm neither afraid of drinking some if offered nor do I feel the need to drink at all, even though I had tangled with it a lot in the past. I have this bottle of alcohol under my bed and it has stayed there for months untouched.

Happened to anyone else on this forum? As I was meditating I saw around 6 rectangles in the distance marking different distance (like when you have a screen recording itself and you see many of them in the distance). As I looked into the darkness of my closed eyes, I was interested in seeing one thing: emptiness. However as I was looking, it was like my own virtual reality started forming and as I was moving my head *still with eyes closed* i was seeing the landscape in my own mind! It was an amazing experience. I even started moving and interacting with that inner environment! As I turn my head 90 degrees, i turn in that place also. I decided to start climbing ladders for some reason. Also, as I was doing things in real life, around me I saw the other*me* possibilities, as if there is an entire army of me's, all of them with slight difference in what they are doing, as if I was seeing drawn models of myself doing the thing I'm doing in different ways, but derivatives of what I was doing. Did I just save some money on a VR machine? It is absolutely amazing, I hope I am able to go there again.

To me the emphasis really isn't on parallel universes. It was perhaps more like a dream forming while I am awake. Once I was in that frequency and lost the experience of that dream world, I would only need to close my eyes and turn my head around a bit, and it created a whole new world, all I needed to do to "generate" it was to look for it! To look in the distance with my inner eye. Perhaps the title is misleading, maybe it wasn't another dimension. Well unless our subconscious is considered another dimension! But I noticed it always begins with seeing those rectangles of different size and depth. And then POW!

Mooji's invitation Wim hof breathing technique Meditation in the park (I don't time myself, I just feel the urge to sit in silence) Meditating with HoloSync/other sounds (I feel sound is underrated)

I have no memory of what I was before I was born. I never liked those pointings. I can only speculate that I was nothingness, since I have no memory, but where's the evidence

Duality; Suffering!

I understand now <3

@Telepresent I might have the wrong understanding of what spiritual bypassing is (perhaps using the term wrong), but yeah you get what I mean which is all that matters. FYI and FMI : This video seems really worth watching btw!

Yeah, but I've had this realization before only to be stomped by the concept of "spiritual bypassing". So turns out there is a correct and wrong way to do this spirituality thing. Therefore the belief that there is a spiritually correct things and spiritually wrong things to do. Like I have the strong belief that murdering, raping or hurting others in a very painful and unnecessary way is spiritually wrong. I believe that lying is spiritually wrong (I do it sometimes for sure) etc etc (basically anything that I wouldn't want to experience myself I consider as evil/sinful). Of course those are labels, but I feel like those labels are helping us not to inflict more suffering out in the world, which I consider spiritually correct. I don't know, it feels like there are good and evil acts and the good ones are spiritual, while the evil ones are considered spiritual bypassing if someone is doing them in the name of non-duality. Weird huh?

I have similar social anxiety relief when doing weed. I've made so much new acquaintances because of this - because I am able to stand next to someone new and start a conversation and feel good about it - usually on weed I clearly feel what I like to think is the Enlightened state. Weed has also been the fuel for much suffering in my life also. I can see how it is the reason for some of the cycles that I am experiencing and calling hell right now...

Why not heaven guys... Ffs! I cannot in a million years imagine how I am an almighty being that can do anything, and I've chosen to be the main character in a life filled with pain and unjustness. I tell you if I ever had any conscious control over what I am, in other words if Ego was God, I would always make good experiences for all my incarnations. Ego would be a better God than the supposed God we are fantasising about here. Because I would know I am all of those, so why the hell have any bad experience if you are God, what is the point, who needs this drag. What for? To become better? What for? To defeat other Gods? No, there's only one right? Why not enjoy yourself in your pristine condition? It all seems bullshit from here. I am not God. If God exist, there are two: plus infinity - God of good, minus infinity - God of bad, and we are dancing in between I guess. Seems like a better map of Reality. Reality is what is. Hell and heaven both are made out of awareness, but I sure as hell don't want to be in hell. I dont want to be aware of hell. I want to only ever be aware of heaven. This is not possible? Then heaven doesn't exist. It seems like God is unconscious.

So is it not evil when someone you thought of as your friend steals from you like a backstabber and weaves webs of lies? I think people will understand only if it happens in their timeline what evil is. It is real and here. In fact this planet is based on survival of the fittest. The fittest are the cheats, the liars and those who don't give one fuck for the other. The good guy that doesnt even wanna hurt a fly is left on the side to rot because he's not savvy enough for this shitty place.

Life has decided to KO me these days. I find myself more and more intrigued by this... The thoughts in my head are looping the cathartic events that happened to *me* recently, looping Mooji, Eckhart, Rupert wisdoms that help me investigate what is happening/drop/let go of past&future and mainly, looping reminders of my *belief supported by own investigation* that there is no free will - therefore it's illogical to beat myself up for my own mistakes (?) and I should just accept what is happening fully (but then I go into why am I not accepting of suffering, so I give myself room to burst with anger, tears, etc... The thing is, sure I do the inner investigation, but this doesn't stop this story thought is weaving from being so real and true. It is so real that I am the one in the middle of what is happening, like me, some creature that is in so much pain right now because shit is falling left and right. I do feel good when I drop the thoughts and the loop ends, but my immediate circumstances remind me very quickly and the pain continues. It's not like when you forget you are without legs for example (just an example) that you magically grow legs or are ok with not being able to walk. Today, while I was having suicidal thoughts, the following peculiar thoughts while I was lying on the grass in the park: "The not me wants to commit suicide", "The not me is in pain and wants to die because he's not made for this world", "Why is the not me even alive as this if I am not supposed to be this??" Thankfully I have one good friend, a mother and a sister, without whom nothing would really be stopping me, death looks very promising tbh, but I can't inflict such pain on those who are close So how does Ego drop Ego really? It's impossible right? How does a ball drop itself... Am I the Ego or am I awareness? If I am awareness big whoop right? Everyone is addressing me as the Body, I feel the body's every pain, I feel the story's pain. I feel so much different than everyone else. I get angry at people who say they want to be different than the rest, because for me I would be so happy to just blend in and not stand out as the "weird guy" with a name nobody outside my own country can pronounce or get from the first try... I don't know really where im going with this post, mostly wanted to get it out, not that anyone will read this, I know I am a joke anyway in most people's eyes, just a mental masturbator. I need the 30-day no mental fap challenge..

For me reality flows the more detachment there is. Attachments are resistance.

Post here your insights for group contemplation Here's a few of my recent ones: The world isn't only if you think about it. Truth is isness. You are isness, even if your mind doesn't know isness. You are not your mind, your mind is separate to you. It is your tool. The leash is concentration and determination. Then let go, of everything. Even your identity. Be nothing. You're already doing it in your sleep, unconsciously. Become conscious of this now. Let nothing take the leash.

Almost sounds like what Voldemort did Ego is who we think we are, memory. Past doesn't exist, therefore we can't be what we think we are, because that already becomes past. Any happening is not now, any event is already memory.

Not seeing nothingness is exactly what seeing nothingness is. Because it's nothing ?

Well for example that there would be no room for judging the happening. Even if judging appears, no judging on top of that should appear that is judging the judging. If that makes sense Also not to take things personally. It's like taking an earthquake personally. It may be shitty to experience the earthquake, but it's not anything personal, it's just a happening. My list consists of these kinds of things.

This is a simple mathematical proof. Suppose that The Universe is infinite. If there is a thing in the Universe, for example a body entity that is real, that means it assumes a value - 1. I am 1 body, a thing! There are 7billion other bodies, things! (this is valid for all matter strictures) Lets look at the whole picture now. In an infinite universe, how much does 1 equal to compared to the whole? 1/infinity = 0 (nothing) 7 billion / infinity = 0 (nothing) Therefore the only possibility is that either the universe is finite, which common sense can debunk easily or there are not things. I know maths doesn't fly with many ego's, but I see much value in this universal language. Note: This assumes a universe "out there", in which you live. This is the paradigm of matter. This proof is specifically looking at the case of the matter paradigm with resulting proof that it is bullshit.

All that you have ever seen is an image in your mind. Look at an object. Now cross your eyes. There was one object, how are you seeing two? It must be that you are seeing two images, both equally valid. Which eye is more valid? Which hemisphere is valid? They are both eqyally valid. But there is 1 object, so it must be that our vision is entirely illusory. Not real. You were looking at something you were convinced is real, like the moon ? . Then you see the only thing you ever have of it is an illusory image appearing in you.

The space that is created is no the space I am talking about. This space you are talking about is an object in the space which I'm talking about. There is no space... Space doesn't exist... It's not created. Stuff in it are apparently created, but space is not. It's the absence of things, how can you kill it? The absence of it is itself... How can emptiness dissipate, it's strange. It is already the case that it is dissipated.

@Erlend K You cannot observe nothingness. But you can be aware of it. Imagine the following O is the universe expanding. The only thing you need to do is zoom out faster, remember this is a thought experiment, you dont need to travel faster than light- this is only a way to become aware of the eternal nature of nothingness or emptiness. Obviously it cannot be done in reality apart from in a thought experiment, because if something is outside the universe taking this snapshot will automatically be part of the Universe and the universe will expand to it. Will circle him and then again there is the unobserved nothingness beyond. The entire page is the emptiness around it. So we suppose the universe is finite and ever increasing, then we can represent it with the O no problem. You are somewhere in the limited O we currently call our finite ever increasing universe of stuff(spacetime contiuum included, which is silly cause space and time don't exist apart from thought but whatever, we're supposing here that there is a world outside us in the first place lol). O So in this you can actually see that there is infinite nothingness beyond. It's too simple. If there wasn't infinite nothingness, there would be something and then that would also be part of the O and not the rest of the picture. But there are no bounds for the O. If there is a bound, it would be part of the O and not the nothingness outside. Which is eternal. You can be aware of it's eternal nature. You cannot verify it's existence because it's very quality is that it doesn't exist. It doesn't have qualities. But it is. Nothing can be without the space in which it appears. Reminds me of self enquiry.

There is nothing outside! It's not an absurd question, it's only absurd if the answer is something, because that then will be included in the definition of our universe and will no longer be outside it. Is the room the walls or is it also the empty space within it? And no, you cannot see empty space or observe it. You can only notice it in relation to objects, but that doesnt stop you from being aware of it's eternal being. It's the alpha and the omega. No less than God. So, if you are aware that there is nothing outside, you are aware that there is infinite space and then I include that space in the definition of the Universe. So I know it to be infinite, because I include nothingness as well as the illusory forms as part of the Universe. In fact nothingness is more real than any appearance, but thats another story.. So it's weird not to include the only thing real in the definition of Universe.